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Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 12:08:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2 Fr And it shouldn't go unnoticed that after you left the forum went completely down the toilet. That's pretty much bound to happen when the boards go unmoderated, no matter who is/was doing the job. Nature of the beast. I'd hate to be the person who is the next person who has to start going through reported profiles. I thought we do have a moderator. I was unaware that he/she quit.

LadyPact -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 12:33:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent The truth (my truth) is though, as it appears on the boards Lady Pact, you tend to be forceful (as forceful as anyone can be on a message board) in and effort to have people follow your line. You're doing it on this thread. Telling people they have it 'nailed on' except you can't reveal the facts/your facts. In other words, you want people to follow your line but for no other cause than you say it's a good idea. No basis; no nothing. That is not reasonable - at least to me. Now of course things aren't always what they seem and there's always the chance you have everything right. But, I have tended to be a very good judge of character and a situation, and my estimate is that your version is not a balanced version. Are you referring to when I told WaywardSoul that she "nailed it"? If that's the case, just know that I meant it in the sense that she was correct. We're at an impasse because of a slight hiccup. There's really nothing I can do at this juncture that doesn't violate ToS/forum guidelines. If I post any verifying information, how could that be seen as anything but not following the conditions of this site? In my opinion, that presents a problem. Since I am bound by ToS just like everybody else, what would your solution be?

OsideGirl -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 1:23:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent Telling people they have it 'nailed on' except you can't reveal the facts/your facts. In other words, you want people to follow your line but for no other cause than you say it's a good idea. Since LP is one of the people that the OP alluded to in the post, I think LP is entitled to also state what happened. I saw the letter written from the attorney to the poster the other party spoke of. I can attest that we told all parties not to follow each other, write about each other, or speak to each other unless it pertinent to the subject of the thread. (These orders came from the owner) LP and MP had a few mis-steps and when we reminded them, they complied. The third party did not and was banned (and then consequently banned by Mod3 and then put on moderation by the latest Moderator too). I was later told that Mr. P and LP had a restraining order against the third party, following even more impropriety that happened off of the forums. I know that I did not delete anything pertaining to this particular incident or any other incident. Anything regarding this was moved to the Moderator portion of the forum. Because of Mr. P's situation, she's not allowed to give more information.

PeonForHer -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 1:55:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DocStrange I say bring back Mod11 I'm very, very much of the suspicion that Mod11 would want nothing to do with it. I wouldn't blame him/her, either.

DocStrange -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 3:37:23 PM)
That can be said of all the mods who left :(

Wayward5oul -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 4:09:18 PM)
quote: The truth (my truth) is though, as it appears on the boards Lady Pact, you tend to be forceful (as forceful as anyone can be on a message board) in and effort to have people follow your line. Heaven forbid women be assertive and have opinions. Heaven forbid other posters are allowed to think for themselves. quote: You're doing it on this thread. Telling people they have it 'nailed on' except you can't reveal the facts/your facts. She said I nailed it because the hypothetical situation that I proposed was what she herself had dealt with in reality. quote: In other words, you want people to follow your line but for no other cause than you say it's a good idea. No basis; no nothing. That is not reasonable - at least to me. And how is that different than what the OP did here? Not expressing an opinion of the tactic, just curious as to why you feel the need to judge LP for it and ignore the OP. The reason I made the statement that prompted her 'nailed it' comment had nothing to do with 'following her line'. Rather it had everything to do with trying to explain to you what could happen and how deleting posts could be equated with destroying evidence. Forum posts, other social media posts are used in legal cases all the time. That is the very reason that even the ToS on this site address the illegality of deliberately deleting evidence that could later be used in a court of law. quote: But, I have tended to be a very good judge of character and a situation, Having been on the receiving end of this, I would disagree. Being 'judgmental' is not the same as 'being a good judge'.

NewRedQueen -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 4:23:46 PM)
I have not wanted to go back and forth with people and take part in an argument. However, I did want people to have enough time to speak their mind before I came back. It seems there is a lot of twisting or deflecting going on as well as avoiding some topics. All good. The purpose of my actions are to clear my name to some degree, if I can. I am tired of being slandered. I am not upset. I am emotionally fine and have no real residue from any of this. However, I don’t like being lied about, especially by people I see as liars. The things removed from the forum that were not just hidden, but deleted and could not be subpoenaed by a court without going into the back up are gone. What was hidden and staff had access to was all the harassment from one person to another proving he was harassing. However, all the proof that the other person was harassing him was taken and deleted. They could provide that without assistance from the owner. Luckily, there was more and it was missed that proves that she was harassing him. After two or three tours in a war zone, we have a man committed and having so much love for his dominant for years… has a break up and what appears to be a break down, suffering a great loss. He moved to Alaska and changed his whole life, finished a dungeon and after that, goes through a break up with said dominant. All sorts of things were said on the forum, for which a number of posters on this coming thread mentioned. All over the forum we heard that the dominant was missing events because he would stalk her. They both spoke of taking legal action. Now, I have worked in the area of domestic abuse, rape and stalking and know that you don’t harass or inflame the situation. You go legal, you try to defuse and yet you stand your ground. You don’t spend time trying to upset the other party and you keep it legal. This was not done. Both parties and their close connections were doing dramatic battle all over the forum. The dominant in this situation also worked in this area of rape or abuse in some manner, so knew that you really shouldn’t engage or inflame someone harassing or stalking you. This thread was started during this time. There was another thread I cannot yet find, but it was in Mistress and the dominant spoke of her new boy getting to know her so well that he bought her something she loved. A stuffed animal. The other party was on the forum and reading it all. While he is supposedly stalking her, she is continuing without concern over what this could result in. After two or three tours in a war zone, I have to question the intelligence of messing with a vet. A few posts later, the dominant’s husband comes in and says he had to buy it for her, because he knew she would love it. It wasn’t her new boy that bought it and knew her… but her husband of around ten years. What would be the purpose of creating that thread other than to harass her former slave? The problem with this is that the dominant lied about the new boy during a time she claimed that she was being stalked and harassed and she went so far as to lie in a thread to others here about a new boy, which was a new 21 year old she was playing with and had mentioned in other threads. Now this dominant has been lying about me and accusing me of numerous things including not telling the complete story or truth, besides how crazy I am. LOL I will continue to look for that thread, but it may have been deleted by staff. What is happening here is that I am telling the truth about people that did things that weren’t supposed to happen, showed favoritism, covered up what one person was doing and leaving evidence of what the other did. All parties were less than calm and all were involved in harassing one another. You can see throughout this thread, that the ugliness was known about and distasteful to a number of people. http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4428925 To understand better, read all the thread. I know of many more lies that she has told about different things. At this time there was a takeover attempted between groups of staff caused by one powerful staff member being involved with the same dominant as another lower powered staff member. This married man was being fought over and the powerful one wanted the other fired. Alpha refused to do it as it wasn’t proper grounds to release her. The war started then. Things started disappearing. Mod bashing threads started and went to dramatic places. I then outed myself and quit trying to get the mod bashing threads stopped. This dominant that has been lying about me and with the dramatic public break up… kept those threads going as well as the other team trying to gain power. All this high school drama… These are the people that accuse me and slander me. Go digging if you wish to. The bashing threads are there minus a few posts and you will be able to see when posts slowed down and who came to start them up again.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 5:16:39 PM)
Well that was enlightening in all manner of ways.

DocStrange -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 6:43:25 PM)
Well that is certainly one possible version of events. Another might be a majority of the mods were sick and tired of one mod abusing her privileges as mod. They collectively requested the other mod be let go. The next day the mods who made the request were all locked out of their accounts. No explanation given. Not even your fired. Nothing. Something just want to make you say hmmm.

NewRedQueen -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 7:12:50 PM)
That was one story. Yes, indeed, that was one of the stories put out there. Then all the drama that was caused by those that wanted to strike back, claiming so much innocence. That isn't a story that I saw proof of. Please don't forget that there are others that were there and knew what was going on. I was the one cleaning the whole mess up on this side. I saw every area of the forum, every post pertaining to anything important. I am coming here letting people know who I am. I have a great deal that I can provide as proof of many things. I was also very close to every aspect of this web site and the owner. The story that those few upset provided was not a fact. The fact is, is that one of them was trying to gain access to every part of the site and the woman in support was not that person. You care to revel yourself this time? If not... nullified. What was going on with the staff was something I watched for months. I do believe you know that as you were pretty upset with me. Now, if we carry this any further, you will have to be honest about who you are.

theHouseofAvalon -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 8:21:50 PM)
quote: Well that was enlightening in all manner of ways. It was. Their feelings and their pain was and still is real. Just how real this is to some members is very well presented by this thread. We must not let such feelings interfere with our reality.

theHouseofAvalon -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 8:29:29 PM)
quote: I am coming here letting people know who I am. I believe strongly that "Who you are" is based on your actions and not what you say here.

NewRedQueen -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 8:35:35 PM)
That's nice dear. You may believe anything that you wish. Since you are a new account started the day after my first post, I am not too concerned about what you think.

LadyPact -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/12/2016 10:29:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NewRedQueen The things removed from the forum that were not just hidden, but deleted and could not be subpoenaed by a court without going into the back up are gone. What was hidden and staff had access to was all the harassment from one person to another proving he was harassing. However, all the proof that the other person was harassing him was taken and deleted. They could provide that without assistance from the owner. I'm kind of glad this got brought up because it just confirms that it wasn't just the site that was threatened to be sued. I don't have any civil or criminal actions pending against me, though when I heard the threat, I wasn't entirely sure what the angle was. Thank you. quote: Luckily, there was more and it was missed that proves that she was harassing him. After two or three tours in a war zone, we have a man committed and having so much love for his dominant for years… has a break up and what appears to be a break down, suffering a great loss. He moved to Alaska and changed his whole life, finished a dungeon and after that, goes through a break up with said dominant. Yeah, not as it's being portrayed. The moving to Alaska wasn't for me. At least it wasn't what I was told at the time. It was to be a transfer of state units so there would be no loss of the other party (and his family's) medical benefits. (There was also a serious unemployment problem.) I was told there were being cutbacks made to the unit where he had been assigned in CA, and he was facing losing his TriCare. We (MP and I) were told that he had arranged for a position on the job on post where we lived that was being vacated by the medic currently stationed there. I was actually the last hold out to this but ended up agreeing, as I knew the other party's wife and dependent off-spring needed the medical coverage. quote: All sorts of things were said on the forum, for which a number of posters on this coming thread mentioned. All over the forum we heard that the dominant was missing events because he would stalk her. They both spoke of taking legal action. Yes, I did miss some events. Some that I attended were the references to being followed in public. As you are well aware, I am not allowed to detail these on the forums or post any of the documentation to corroborate it. However, if anybody would like to drop me a note on Fet... quote: Now, I have worked in the area of domestic abuse, rape and stalking and know that you don’t harass or inflame the situation. You go legal, you try to defuse and yet you stand your ground. You don’t spend time trying to upset the other party and you keep it legal. This was not done. Both parties and their close connections were doing dramatic battle all over the forum. The dominant in this situation also worked in this area of rape or abuse in some manner, so knew that you really shouldn’t engage or inflame someone harassing or stalking you. I had the option of going to legal. It was offered to me in May of 2013 when my husband's boss on post and the Chaplain had been contacted. (Another one of those neat journal entries that was admitted by the other party.) I passed on that option because it would come back on the other party's family. I was in the situation that a lot of people who aren't "out" face when people start the "go to the cops or it didn't happen" routine. I was a poly person who engages in BDSM on a military post. If anybody doesn't understand the potential of that, write me email. quote: This thread was started during this time. There was another thread I cannot yet find, but it was in Mistress and the dominant spoke of her new boy getting to know her so well that he bought her something she loved. A stuffed animal. The other party was on the forum and reading it all. While he is supposedly stalking her, she is continuing without concern over what this could result in. After two or three tours in a war zone, I have to question the intelligence of messing with a vet. So, what's the implication here? That I also wasn't supposed to post on the forums about engaging in kink or in the kink community? That I was never supposed to say anything that was good that was going on in my life because I was supposed to be afraid that the other party was reading it? quote: A few posts later, the dominant’s husband comes in and says he had to buy it for her, because he knew she would love it. It wasn’t her new boy that bought it and knew her… but her husband of around ten years. What would be the purpose of creating that thread other than to harass her former slave? The problem with this is that the dominant lied about the new boy during a time she claimed that she was being stalked and harassed and she went so far as to lie in a thread to others here about a new boy, which was a new 21 year old she was playing with and had mentioned in other threads. Ummm... Being happy? Yes, the stalking was bad. However, I only had to worry about the in person stalking when the other individual traveled to the state where MP and I resided. The rest of it was internet stalking, which you're obviously aware of. I'm going to say something else about this. If someone is 21 years old, and wants to engage in consensual S/m, there should not be a problem with that. I have always had casual play partners of darn near all legal ages, from twenties to sixties. I absolutely had casual play partners from April 2013 - December 2013. Around January of 2014, I made the decision that I was only interested in playing with the person that I had collared at that time. quote: Now this dominant has been lying about me and accusing me of numerous things including not telling the complete story or truth, besides how crazy I am. LOL I will continue to look for that thread, but it may have been deleted by staff. Please do. I admit that I said some not nice things about you when the s**m4u thing came up because the guy had such a short time to live. I'll apologize for that. quote:* What is happening here is that I am telling the truth about people that did things that weren’t supposed to happen, showed favoritism, covered up what one person was doing and leaving evidence of what the other did. All parties were less than calm and all were involved in harassing one another. Plenty of times that I wasn't calm. I'll admit to that one, too. Especially because of the things that kept happening that I'm not even allowed to talk about here, due to Terms of Service. By your definition, it's "harassing" someone if you remove them from your life and then go on to HAVE a life. quote: You can see throughout this thread, that the ugliness was known about and distasteful to a number of people. To understand better, read all the thread. Yes, I removed the thread from the quote because, if I can't identify the individual, I don't think you should be, either. quote: I know of many more lies that she has told about different things. At this time there was a takeover attempted between groups of staff caused by one powerful staff member being involved with the same dominant as another lower powered staff member. This married man was being fought over and the powerful one wanted the other fired. Alpha refused to do it as it wasn’t proper grounds to release her. The war started then. What? Whatever this is, it has nothing to do with me. Of the folks that I know their Mod identities, only one is a married man and he was a Gorean man. I've met some former Mods in person. Went to events with a couple of them but the only one that I've ever even played with was a female submissive. That was way back in 2010. (Yeah, I had to look it up.) quote: Things started disappearing. Mod bashing threads started and went to dramatic places. I then outed myself and quit trying to get the mod bashing threads stopped. This dominant that has been lying about me and with the dramatic public break up… kept those threads going as well as the other team trying to gain power. I have always contributed and discussed issues on threads about moderation for as long as I've been a member here. At one point or another, I've probably disagreed with one decision or another that dang near any forum Mod has ever made. I absolutely thought the way the Arpig matter was handled was stupid but that wasn't your decision or blame and it would have been foolish of me to say it was. quote: All this high school drama… These are the people that accuse me and slander me. Go digging if you wish to. The bashing threads are there minus a few posts and you will be able to see when posts slowed down and who came to start them up again. You mean like when I lived in Alaska and had a four hour time difference than anybody living on the East Coast? Heck yes I was on threads after a lot of people went to bed. I do that now because I'm an insomniac. I had no idea that my posting habits were supposed to be designed to accommodate you. For what it's worth, I think you were incorrect in one of your statements from your earlier post. There really isn't any reason that you are unable to look for a kink partner on a BDSM site or attend events in your area to look for one. Nobody is going to be able to recognize you from the picture that was on your personal profile from years ago, so that shouldn't hinder you. It's my understanding there's a really good scene where you live.

Insanityasylum -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 3:01:11 AM)
Fat girls got passes to!

angelikaJ -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 5:07:10 AM)
deleted: don't want to further contribute to drama.

peppermint -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 7:13:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ deleted: don't want to further contribute to drama. I have done the same, angelikaJ, but before even posting.

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 11:31:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul Heaven forbid women be assertive and have opinions. Firstly, the fact LP is a woman is completely irrelevant, and a nonsensical statement on your part. Secondly, you and I have a different interpretation of that which constitutes 'assertive'. I'd imagine all dictionaries would side with me on this one. Saying: "you have it nailed on/you are correct" while talking about such things as rape yet not providing good basis, to someone who isn't either party in a dispute, i.e. you, is not assertive. I find it pretty poor form, and not in the realms of 'assertive'. You wanna come on a board and start talking about rape 'but I can't give any details' - that's not right - more fool you if you think that's above board and LP is to believed at a whim when you know nothing about it.

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 11:38:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent The truth (my truth) is though, as it appears on the boards Lady Pact, you tend to be forceful (as forceful as anyone can be on a message board) in and effort to have people follow your line. You're doing it on this thread. Telling people they have it 'nailed on' except you can't reveal the facts/your facts. In other words, you want people to follow your line but for no other cause than you say it's a good idea. No basis; no nothing. That is not reasonable - at least to me. Now of course things aren't always what they seem and there's always the chance you have everything right. But, I have tended to be a very good judge of character and a situation, and my estimate is that your version is not a balanced version. Are you referring to when I told WaywardSoul that she "nailed it"? If that's the case, just know that I meant it in the sense that she was correct. We're at an impasse because of a slight hiccup. There's really nothing I can do at this juncture that doesn't violate ToS/forum guidelines. If I post any verifying information, how could that be seen as anything but not following the conditions of this site? In my opinion, that presents a problem. Since I am bound by ToS just like everybody else, what would your solution be? For all I know you could be right you could be wrong. I don't know you or anyone else involved from the next man/woman. I think you're right not to reveal details, and not only in an attempt to follow TOS - there are other good reasons including landing yourself in hot water. But, monumentally wrong to come on and talk about rape and such relating to a poster on this board. The solution would have been to either go to the polis, or in the event you feel you can't substantiate it then forget it, gone. And, I'll ask you a question: in the event you feel you can't go to the polis because evidence has been deleted then what are you hoping to achieve by accusing someone on here of rape?

NewRedQueen -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 12:24:35 PM)
More twisting, deflecting and misrepresentation. Here is where an announcement was made over the break up and a few days later after much forum drama between parties, the thread about the gift by someone was made. On my profile I have screen shots of some of this. Just a small token. The thread was deleted, but because of the nature of what was going on and Alpha requiring us to do screen shots... I have some of this. Remember, it was all going legal. http://www.collarchat.com/m_4415360/mpage_1/tm.htm It's not slander if you can prove it. Can my accusers prove their claims? Hearsay angelikaJ? Funny, that coming from your own mouth. You ought to know by now, that I am not talking out my ass and I have little problem proving what I say or that in some part, I have proof. Care for me to share more? Oh... if only the picture issues were resolved and someone hadn't removed so much. I think it strange in a self-protective mode, how many are coming with fake names, not identifying themselves and accusing and yet have nothing in the way of proof and only their opinion, accusation, deflections and failure to prove what they imply or claim. Remember... a few of you were the first to slander and bring the nastiness up. I am just responding to what you first tried to do to me. I wouldn't have started this if not for that continuing and my friend (s) getting upset. So here we are. Check out my profile... as long as it is there, so are the screen shots. This ought to teach you a lesson about lying about people when you have something to hide. I know nothing about a rape or what goes on, on anyone's couch. That sounds like a legal matter to me. I never told anyone the things that I have been accused of and someone is giving false information. When I worked a promise between a poster that was acting badly and it was found that he was dying, I knew he enjoyed this place and I released the ban so he could spend his last days here. Lots of accusations... I will not address each one. No one is admitting to any wrong doing, so what is to discuss?

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