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guardianschattel -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 12:55:49 PM)
Jesus the socks are tame compared to this lot of blame gamers! I thought you were the thread OP Donna? Who is the LP? The past is the past and cannot be changed. Life is not fair and the wicked always win. You are[sm=beatdeadhorse.gif] quite frankly. You are also giving the troublemakers, cowards and bullies a chance to mock you and reinforce their arguments against you. Handle this matter offline. By the way pay back the donations given for the imaginary fantasy website that never materialised.

NewRedQueen -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 1:01:45 PM)
LOL... Boy are you confused new person. I am not that person. I have taken nothing in donations for anything. Your reading skills and perception are lacking.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 1:10:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul Heaven forbid women be assertive and have opinions. Firstly, the fact LP is a woman is completely irrelevant, and a nonsensical statement on your part. Secondly, you and I have a different interpretation of that which constitutes 'assertive'. I'd imagine all dictionaries would side with me on this one. Saying: "you have it nailed on/you are correct" while talking about such things as rape yet not providing good basis, to someone who isn't either party in a dispute, i.e. you, is not assertive. I find it pretty poor form, and not in the realms of 'assertive'. You wanna come on a board and start talking about rape 'but I can't give any details' - that's not right - more fool you if you think that's above board and LP is to believed at a whim when you know nothing about it. You need to go back and reread. I never made any statements about believing LP, or OP, or anyone. I never said anything about rape or people making claims that they couldn't prove, or anything like that. My comments were in response to YOU wondering why a forum would leave such posts up if someone did post them. I gave a hypothetical situation where such posts can be (and in reality often are) used as evidence. And that many sites maintain such info for that very reason. None of that had anything to do with anything LP said. It was a response to YOU. Then LP commented that the hypothetical situation I described was what happened to her. That is the only place that her statements coincided with mine. So how about you show me where I backed up ANYONE coming on here and making unsubstantiated claims? Why don't you show me where I said anything about rape? You are the one exhibiting poor form here. You are the one making unsubstantiated claims. And it's not the first time.

Lucylastic -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 1:28:22 PM)
quote: When I worked a promise between a poster that was acting badly and it was found that he was dying, I knew he enjoyed this place and I released the ban so he could spend his last days here. Strange, that isnt how history or he remembers it. His last posting date was the 4th of may. His last email to me was on the 19th of may I received a message about him.. on the 25th of may. Then there was a thread on the message board, http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4812731 announcing his cancer Then the thread with his passing. http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4823542 on the 13th of july.

NewRedQueen -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 1:36:50 PM)
That doesn't change the fact that I released the ban and I wrote to his dominant about it because I couldn't reach him. I was told he was doing what he wanted to do and most likely wouldn't be here.

DocStrange -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 1:41:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NewRedQueen That was one story. Yes, indeed, that was one of the stories put out there. Then all the drama that was caused by those that wanted to strike back, claiming so much innocence. That isn't a story that I saw proof of. Please don't forget that there are others that were there and knew what was going on. I was the one cleaning the whole mess up on this side. I saw every area of the forum, every post pertaining to anything important. I am coming here letting people know who I am. I have a great deal that I can provide as proof of many things. I was also very close to every aspect of this web site and the owner. The story that those few upset provided was not a fact. The fact is, is that one of them was trying to gain access to every part of the site and the woman in support was not that person. You care to revel yourself this time? If not... nullified. What was going on with the staff was something I watched for months. I do believe you know that as you were pretty upset with me. Now, if we carry this any further, you will have to be honest about who you are. I am not angry with you. I have no personal issue with you. I am merely pointing out that your post was not entirely truthful. I felt the need to tell people the truth. And people are now seeing that. Your account of certain mods as a group trying to take over the website is far fetched. A group of mods were upset and they vocalized their displeasure over another mod when they finally had enough. And then they were gone. This did not play out in the forums, but in emails, phone calls and video chats. Some of those video chat logs just may still exist today. Ranting about a Dom sub breakup and you are neither the Dom or the sub is just poor taste or jealousy? As to who I am? I am guessing many would like to know that about now. Sorry, go fish. The real blame for the poor website management really needs to go back to the owner. He failed to manage things and it got out of hand. That is the real bottom line. You said you knew the owner and were close to him. You were not the only mod the owner knew and was close friends with. You might even say it was his MO in recruiting mods. He was very good at it. You think you were the only one? That is amusing. The only people I see causing drama currently is you and the sock puppets

NewRedQueen -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 1:44:51 PM)
Nullified.

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 1:49:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul Heaven forbid women be assertive and have opinions. Firstly, the fact LP is a woman is completely irrelevant, and a nonsensical statement on your part. Secondly, you and I have a different interpretation of that which constitutes 'assertive'. I'd imagine all dictionaries would side with me on this one. Saying: "you have it nailed on/you are correct" while talking about such things as rape yet not providing good basis, to someone who isn't either party in a dispute, i.e. you, is not assertive. I find it pretty poor form, and not in the realms of 'assertive'. You wanna come on a board and start talking about rape 'but I can't give any details' - that's not right - more fool you if you think that's above board and LP is to believed at a whim when you know nothing about it. You need to go back and reread. I never made any statements about believing LP, or OP, or anyone. I never said anything about rape or people making claims that they couldn't prove, or anything like that. My comments were in response to YOU wondering why a forum would leave such posts up if someone did post them. I gave a hypothetical situation where such posts can be (and in reality often are) used as evidence. And that many sites maintain such info for that very reason. None of that had anything to do with anything LP said. It was a response to YOU. Then LP commented that the hypothetical situation I described was what happened to her. That is the only place that her statements coincided with mine. So how about you show me where I backed up ANYONE coming on here and making unsubstantiated claims? Why don't you show me where I said anything about rape? You are the one exhibiting poor form here. You are the one making unsubstantiated claims. And it's not the first time. Your posts 78,79 and particularly 95 suggest otherwise.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 2:23:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul Heaven forbid women be assertive and have opinions. Firstly, the fact LP is a woman is completely irrelevant, and a nonsensical statement on your part. Secondly, you and I have a different interpretation of that which constitutes 'assertive'. I'd imagine all dictionaries would side with me on this one. Saying: "you have it nailed on/you are correct" while talking about such things as rape yet not providing good basis, to someone who isn't either party in a dispute, i.e. you, is not assertive. I find it pretty poor form, and not in the realms of 'assertive'. You wanna come on a board and start talking about rape 'but I can't give any details' - that's not right - more fool you if you think that's above board and LP is to believed at a whim when you know nothing about it. You need to go back and reread. I never made any statements about believing LP, or OP, or anyone. I never said anything about rape or people making claims that they couldn't prove, or anything like that. My comments were in response to YOU wondering why a forum would leave such posts up if someone did post them. I gave a hypothetical situation where such posts can be (and in reality often are) used as evidence. And that many sites maintain such info for that very reason. None of that had anything to do with anything LP said. It was a response to YOU. Then LP commented that the hypothetical situation I described was what happened to her. That is the only place that her statements coincided with mine. So how about you show me where I backed up ANYONE coming on here and making unsubstantiated claims? Why don't you show me where I said anything about rape? You are the one exhibiting poor form here. You are the one making unsubstantiated claims. And it's not the first time. Your posts 78,79 and particularly 95 suggest otherwise. I am running out the door right now so I can't comment fully. I will return to do so later. Between now and then, why don't you take my suggestion and go reread those again, and again if necessary. Because you have clearly no idea what you are talking about.

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 2:25:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul I am running out the door right now so I can't comment fully. You're still lurking at the top of this thread. But, in your own time, whenever you're ready.

punisher440 -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 2:50:16 PM)
Dear Doc, You keep trying to claim the moral high ground while hiding behind a sock, something you accuse others of. I was working Support when a certain gorean Mod was trying his best to get into every corner of the site, chat,support and the forums. He got mad when he was not let into chat or support, and if you are that Mod, yes you do have personal issues with the former Mod3.He was trying to do the very thing you are now accusing others of doing. Now Doc, you want to proclaim the 3 fired Mods were totally innocent when they told the site owner to either fire the head of support and give the 3 Mods[or at least some of them] total power. How about confessing who you really are Doc. I'll tell you who I was...at first I was HardCandy[a much recycled support ID] and when I was asked to take over support I was Atlas1. I was also Mod10 and Mod3's evil clone when she was in the hospital but everything I did as Mod3's clone, I was on the phone with her and typed every word and every action she asked me to do. Very few ever knew I was even in support because I felt my job was to help make the site better, not toot my own horn unlike most of the former people that have worked in there or on the forums. What you are trying best to do is to get anyone to believe is a lie...plain and simple. Either that or you are dense and you'll believe anything. I have kept my mouth shut after I quit[and yes..I quit, I wasn't fired so I have no axe to grind], I haven't even been posting on here because I no longer felt the boards were worth my time to post on. But in this situation I felt the truth needed to be told and not just your version of the "truth". So either confess to being one of the 3 Mods that were fired for very good reasons or we'll all know you are nothing but hot air and empty words.

LadyPact -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 2:58:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NewRedQueen That doesn't change the fact that I released the ban and I wrote to his dominant about it because I couldn't reach him. I was told he was doing what he wanted to do and most likely wouldn't be here. He wouldn't have seen it. His local community raised some funds and he did go on a very special trip.

LadyPact -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 3:01:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent You're still lurking at the top of this thread. But, in your own time, whenever you're ready. You do realize that only means that she didn't log out?

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 3:11:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent You're still lurking at the top of this thread. But, in your own time, whenever you're ready. You do realize that only means that she didn't log out? No, it doesn't it could mean one of a few things: a) She's lurking. b) She hasn't logged out. c) There are two Wayward Souls. d) She's not lurking nor has she logged out - she's reading another thread. e) Someone has hacked her account. f) She's not actually lurking, I'm lying. g) She's not lurking, I'm not lying, I'm hallucinating. h) She's not lurking, I'm not lying, she's not reading another thread, her PC has crashed. i) She's ran out the door and someone is standing in for her. j) None of this is real, it's all in mind, she was never here anyway, nor will she ever be. k) She's dead, and her body has leaned forward with her head on the Enter key, she won't be leaving this site until someone finds her. l).....oh forget it, you know what I mean...

LadyPact -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 3:14:10 PM)
Geez, man. Why didn't you just add aliens? [sm=abducted.gif]

NorthernGent -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 3:17:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Geez, man. Why didn't you just add aliens? [sm=abducted.gif] There was a thread a while back on which Wayward Soul made a point of saying she doesn't socialise with aliens.

theHouseofAvalon -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 3:42:37 PM)
quote: I was working Support when a certain gorean Mod was trying his best to get into every corner of the site, chat,support and the forums. He got mad when he was not let into chat or support A Gorean Moderator. Gorean. A group of individuals who do not believe in normal constraints. One of these is allowed to police the forum. I love it. Too bad it was not me. Nadu bitches!!!! The TOS will suddenly ban leather only collars! No mention of safe and sane will be tolerated! All males will be addressed as "master"! Female Dommes will have difficulties. BDSM play will not be mentioned, instead it will be kajirae training sessions. I am laughing my ass off. I have to go. This is too much. A Gorean moderating the BDSM website forum in some capacity. Incredible. I cannot wrap my head around that concept. Even if he was only moderating the infamous Gorean forum that would spell the end of that forum. Wait...

LadyPact -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 3:51:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: theHouseofAvalon A Gorean Moderator. Gorean. A group of individuals who do not believe in normal constraints. He wasn't exactly the first one.

theHouseofAvalon -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 3:54:14 PM)
..,Wait...wait... quote: I was working Support when a certain gorean Mod was trying his best to get into every corner of the site, chat,support and the forums. He got mad when he was not let into chat or support, Yeah!!!! Who would guess a Gorean would do that? What a fucking surprise! Incredible. In-fucking-credible. This thread is the very best in history! Okay, for sure I have to go...

DocStrange -> RE: Truth and Drama (1/13/2016 5:02:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 Dear Doc, You keep trying to claim the moral high ground while hiding behind a sock, something you accuse others of. I have not accused anyone of being a sock. I said the only people causing drama was newredqueen and socks that have posting tons of junk. If claiming the moral high ground is telling the truth then so be it. quote: He was trying to do the very thing you are now accusing others of doing. I have not accused anyone of anything other than not telling the entire truth. I stated was really happened. No accusations. quote: Now Doc, you want to proclaim the 3 fired Mods were totally innocent when they told the site owner to either fire the head of support and give the 3 Mods[or at least some of them] total power. I did not proclaim the 3 fire mods were totally innocent. What I said was the mods let go where not trying to take over the website. But thank you for corroborating my earlier statement of the mods having enough of the antics of the other mod and asked the owner to fire that mod. quote: So either confess to being one of the 3 Mods that were fired for very good reasons or we'll all know you are nothing but hot air and empty words. I am not nor ever been a mod for the board. Sorry to disappoint your guessing game. This is my 2nd profile in 12 years. I was absent for a few years in between the 2 profiles. I will not give out my name as it has to potential to hurt someone on the board. I will not let that happen.

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