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RE: Fix the Constitution - 1/12/2016 9:25:09 AM

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The Constitution isn't broken. It's the dim-witted fuckheads who [dont get it and dont do anything about it when they] bastardize what it stands for that's broken.

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RE: Fix the Constitution - 1/12/2016 11:57:22 AM

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75%

ROFLACGU

No one pays that much now. Didn't look hard but it appears that 17% is more like it http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/gop-candidates-resurrect-flat-tax-proposal

it was an example to help those who didnt get the point more easily grasp the meaning of what I am trying to say.

So here is a picture:

Just because it isnt 75% right this second does not mean it wont be tomorrow, or are you planning on giving us a cap guarantee?

So like the rest of the flat taxers you advocate lowering the taxes of the wealthiest 1% where 95% of the money is disposable and raising taxes on the lowest income people to make up for it where 95% of their money is spent on survival?

good plan

So that said, the graduated tax is about the same as a 'luxury' tax for the wealthy and no or little tax as a helping hand for the poor.

There is another approach to taxation where a nation could set their own minimum standard of living with a tax cap; No tax at all to have enough income to have a comfortable life and adjustments for those who wish to have children but not to the point where having children becomes a profit center. Same goes for housing/property.

Dollars above cap are 'luxury' dollars and subject to tax based upon how much luxury. It would be important to insure there is still incentive, but as the luxury increased incentive would substantially decrease, hence spreading the wealth would become much more profitable.

This can be done by slowly increasing taxes that are just a bit over the cap so people strive to achieve over cap and at the same time abolish the ludicrous wealth in the hands of a few who have had the ability to buy nations as was the condition of some since ww1.

So you still get to be as wealthy as you like but with increasingly diminishing returns unless you spread it around, unless there is a better best of all worlds solution?

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RE: Fix the Constitution - 1/12/2016 7:56:18 PM

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Now remember something here folks - get your math caps on. For example the top bracket in the racket in 1944 was at $200,000. People might look at that and say "OMG 94 % !" not realizing that this rate was only applied to earnings ABOVE $200,000.

What's more, if the chart is correct that is the equivalent of $2.69 million today. Well folks I hate to break it to anyone who wants to start a business in the US, but the one percent in this country starts at only $300,000 or so. you want to tax the one percent ? Shit, half of them aren't making enough money to make it worthwhile. Even if you tax them half, get $150,000 each out of three million people that is only half a trillion. We owe like 20 of those. And these people will not pay.

And unlike the old days when people buried iuncome in the purchases of luxcury items to entice customers, like yachts and jets and limos, even houses to use as hotels n shit for visiting execs, business dinners and so forth, they TRIED to spend money. They would buy a client a fucking car if the contract was big enough. And they would abuse the shit out of this just to avoid paying Uncle Sam. But it had a side effect.

They were dumping this money into the US economy. And that helped fuel the economy. Now the government has made it more lucrative to keep your money at Wall Street.

There should be no stock exchange, and if there was it wold be a totally private affair. Oh sure, people would get screwed but the SEC hasn't done us any favors lately, though I cannot really blame them because they got so few regulations to try to enforce now since the banksters own the government.

Didn't it ever occur to you that both sides of the aisle went for all this globalisation so they would have better ways to hide their money, and to find ours ? That is the end result you know.

Know what else ? In the US it is perfectly legal for congressmen to trade in stocks that are directly affected by legislation they propose or vote on, and to vote in a way to favor or disfavor a company based on their own holdings, no problem. Perfectly legal. And as much as I cannot stand Martha Stewart, the people who put her ass in jail should be in jail because they do the same damn thing, in fact worse. But it is OK for them.

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RE: Fix the Constitution - 1/13/2016 4:36:44 AM

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I didn't ask realone, I asked you.

I answered you. His answer is my answer...what part of that did you not understand?

so, tell me again which one of has the head in ass thing going on?

You clearly are the winner in the game of anal myopia.

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RE: Fix the Constitution - 1/13/2016 4:38:47 AM

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Whereas the real answer - to any kind of tax rate at 75% is - that the rich guy leaves taking his money to the bahamas - and the money he would have spent on healthcare, buildilngs, food and planes is spent instead in the bahamas.

Can you show us when that has happened? If not then you are just shoveling shit as usual.

Taxing income is stupid.

Only in the opinion of the rich and their stooges.

Just what we want to do - discourage people from getting jobs.

Just how does that discourage people from getting jobs to make money to feed,clothe and shelter themselves and their families?

Tax what they spend.

Then they will buy what they need on the black market...

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RE: Fix the Constitution - 1/13/2016 4:40:00 AM

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Rockefeller more than likely consumes a lot more stuff, that the average joe considers a "luxury." Rockefellers likely buy higher dollarl items, too (which draws more tax).

As you well know the rich purchase their g6's for corporate use.

How much are you taxing the incomes of people involved in illegal activities like prostitution

It is legal and taxed in nevada.

or drug trade?

Johnson & Johnson - ‎Pfizer - ‎GlaxoSmithKline - ‎Abbott Laboratories are suppose to pay taxes.

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RE: Fix the Constitution - 1/13/2016 4:44:07 AM

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No thanks Thompson. It took long enough to get rid of the shithead. looking at him reminds me of the emperor in Star Wars, except in my opinion, murdoch is a lot more evil and scheming ( a true syph lord). He has blotted his copybook in Australia and U.K. and seems to be doing a fair job on the U.S. now.

Maybe we could have a blanket muster and get enough money to ship him HALFway back here ? That would put it somewhere just south of the line in the Pacific I would say.

Werxs for me.