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thompsonx -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/13/2016 5:39:59 PM)
ORIGINAL: Aylee I would like to point out that shooting to wound means you are not in fear for your life and that will get you arrested and jailed. I would like to point out that you are full of shit. Where do you get this moronic shit? Why does being in fear for my life require me to shoot to kill? The law is quite specific that you are only allowed to use the amount of force necessary to protect yourself. If you are going to shoot an attacker, you need to shoot to kill. That would be your peurile opinion. Now can we take this back to the original thread and stop the hijack of this one?

thompsonx -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/13/2016 5:43:45 PM)
ORIGINAL: ifmaz As you're "timing" to take a shot only a fool would make, the attacker is getting closer to you. The closer he gets the easier the shot. It's a "damn good bet" to get yourself killed, which is also what any CCW instructor would tell you after he laughs at you. Can we end this hijack and take this back to the thread you took it from?

thompsonx -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/13/2016 5:51:06 PM)
ORIGINAL: bounty44 I suppose its only consistent since I loathe their social/political/religious worldviews The party that you do not support believes in the social contract. The party that you do not support believe in the constitution. The party that you do not support are primarily christian. Why is it that you loath the constitution and christians? that I should also find their views on self defense absurd. Perhaps because you are a cowardly punk who desires to murder someone and is seeking a legal fiction to get away with it?

thompsonx -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/13/2016 6:01:51 PM)
ORIGINAL: Phydeaux Seems the founders didn't agree with you. The second Militia Act, passed May 8, 1792, conscripted every "free able-bodied white male citizen" between the ages of 18 and 45 into a local militia company. (This was later expanded to all males, regardless of race, between the ages 18-54) "every citizen, ...shall within six months thereafter, provide himself..." with a musket, bayonet and belt, two spare flints, a cartridge box with 24 bullets, and a knapsack.[5] And according to US code 311 - still in force No it is not. It was superseded by the dick act.

ifmaz -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/13/2016 7:24:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: ifmaz As you're "timing" to take a shot only a fool would make, the attacker is getting closer to you. The closer he gets the easier the shot. For the attacker or for you? I assume for the attacker as you have yet to demonstrate any ability to properly handle a firearm let alone shoot. quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx It's a "damn good bet" to get yourself killed, which is also what any CCW instructor would tell you after he laughs at you. Can we end this hijack and take this back to the thread you took it from? Sure, we can stop talking about your inability to do the things you insisted you could do.

thompsonx -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/14/2016 3:55:52 AM)
ORIGINAL: ifmaz ORIGINAL: thompsonx Can we end this hijack and take this back to the thread you took it from? Sure, we can stop talking about your inability to do the things you insisted you could do. We can discuss it there. This thread is about how arizona let guns walk to mexico.

ifmaz -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/14/2016 8:27:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: ifmaz ORIGINAL: thompsonx Can we end this hijack and take this back to the thread you took it from? You mean the thread that ended over a year before I joined this site? quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Sure, we can stop talking about your inability to do the things you insisted you could do. We can discuss it there. This thread is about how arizona let guns walk to mexico. Incorrect. California, Texas, and Arizona FFLs (among others) were forced, by the ATF, to allow people to purchase guns. Good try in blaming Arizona while conveniently ignoring California, though.

BamaD -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/14/2016 8:41:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ifmaz quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: ifmaz ORIGINAL: thompsonx Can we end this hijack and take this back to the thread you took it from? You mean the thread that ended over a year before I joined this site? quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Sure, we can stop talking about your inability to do the things you insisted you could do. We can discuss it there. This thread is about how arizona let guns walk to mexico. Incorrect. California, Texas, and Arizona FFLs (among others) were forced, by the ATF, to allow people to purchase guns. Good try in blaming Arizona while conveniently ignoring California, though. He A. Igonres that he brought the subject into the thread. and B. That ATF forced dealers to allow the guns to walk even though the dealers reported the problem to them. C. That Fast and Furious came on the heals of claims by Hillary that gun crime in Mexico were because of American gun laws, based of course on a study that was flawed. D. Said study said that of the FIREARMS CHECKED FOR POINT OF ORIGIN the vast majority came from the US. All this means that of the firearms of unkown origin from outside Mexico came from the US. E. Several Congressmen had laws prepared for when the government tracked the guns they allowed to walk. F. The plan was screwed up when 1. Whistleblowers blew the lid off and 2. At least one of the dealers taped ATF insisting on him selling the guns even though it was clearly illegal.

thompsonx -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 3:37:58 AM)
ORIGINAL: BamaD He A. Igonres that he brought the subject into the thread. and Liar...I showed you where the thread got hijacked by imfaz in post #98 quote: While you're here you can show off your foot shooting technique as my offer still stands: B. That ATF forced dealers to allow the guns to walk even though the dealers reported the problem to them. The cites provided shows it was the arizona doj that refused to prosecute...so you are lying once again

thompsonx -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 4:17:04 AM)
ORIGINAL: ifmaz ORIGINAL: thompsonx We can discuss it there. This thread is about how arizona let guns walk to mexico. [/quote] Incorrect. California, Texas, and Arizona FFLs (among others) were forced, by the ATF, to allow people to purchase guns. The sites posted show that it was the arizona doj that refused to prosecute and you pointed out that it is not against the law in arizona. Good try in blaming Arizona while conveniently ignoring California, though. You have yet to produce any evidence of that.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 8:19:54 AM)
Thought you fukers were building your version of the Berlin wall to keep those backward spics (incidentally I love a Mexican and in no way is she backwards, or her peoples and they have awesome volcanoes with romantic stories) out of America A land they have greater claim too And who can ever forget Hitler letter whatdoyoumacallit to Mexico - bah someone with a brain tell me what was that letter called So, has it never occurred to most of you lot which nations arms the cartels and mad johnny foreigner terrorist, and why guns flow. The most guilty are USA UK Russia for cash, gold, huffing powder, hooker money and so on...a most noble cause.

BamaD -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 2:56:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire Thought you fukers were building your version of the Berlin wall to keep those backward spics (incidentally I love a Mexican and in no way is she backwards, or her peoples and they have awesome volcanoes with romantic stories) out of America A land they have greater claim too And who can ever forget Hitler letter whatdoyoumacallit to Mexico - bah someone with a brain tell me what was that letter called So, has it never occurred to most of you lot which nations arms the cartels and mad johnny foreigner terrorist, and why guns flow. The most guilty are USA UK Russia for cash, gold, huffing powder, hooker money and so on...a most noble cause. They took it from the indians, that gives them a greater claim than we have? It was 170 years ago, live with it. By your "logic" the English have greater claim to the East Coast than we do.

thompsonx -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 3:13:09 PM)
ORIGINAL: BamaD They took it from the indians, They who took what from the indians? that gives them a greater claim than we have? How so? It was 170 years ago, live with it. If they take it back you gonna live with it? By your "logic" the English have greater claim to the East Coast than we do. Which of his logic did you see that in?

Phydeaux -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 3:53:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: ifmaz quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: ifmaz ORIGINAL: thompsonx Can we end this hijack and take this back to the thread you took it from? You mean the thread that ended over a year before I joined this site? quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Sure, we can stop talking about your inability to do the things you insisted you could do. We can discuss it there. This thread is about how arizona let guns walk to mexico. Incorrect. California, Texas, and Arizona FFLs (among others) were forced, by the ATF, to allow people to purchase guns. Good try in blaming Arizona while conveniently ignoring California, though. He A. Igonres that he brought the subject into the thread. and B. That ATF forced dealers to allow the guns to walk even though the dealers reported the problem to them. C. That Fast and Furious came on the heals of claims by Hillary that gun crime in Mexico were because of American gun laws, based of course on a study that was flawed. D. Said study said that of the FIREARMS CHECKED FOR POINT OF ORIGIN the vast majority came from the US. All this means that of the firearms of unkown origin from outside Mexico came from the US. E. Several Congressmen had laws prepared for when the government tracked the guns they allowed to walk. F. The plan was screwed up when 1. Whistleblowers blew the lid off and 2. At least one of the dealers taped ATF insisting on him selling the guns even though it was clearly illegal. You left out that government caused all the tracking markings on some guns to be filed off. So you're left with the very real question - why would the government forse gun shops to let untraceable guns into the hands of cartels. The other thing you left off was that when this story first broke, the Obama administration attempted to pin the blame on one of the big gun dealerships. Until he whipped out the papperwork where he had forced the agent in charge to sign, date and notarize the order by the administration. Because that one smart cookie, when faced with a prosecution that would have resulted in the confiscation of his business and jail time, forced the administration to put an illegal order into writing. Funny how liberals leave that part of the story out, eh...

mnottertail -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 4:09:28 PM)
funny how nutsuckers leave off the part of the story where they did it before the Obama administration, and it was nutsucker appointees still in there that carried it over.

BamaD -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 4:14:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail funny how nutsuckers leave off the part of the story where they did it before the Obama administration, and it was nutsucker appointees still in there that carried it over. Ah yes, once again the myth that this happened under Linebacker. It ignores the fact that Linebacker was canceled when they couldn't get cooperation from the Mexicans and when Fast and Furious was started they A already knew this and B didn't even try to stop the guns.

Phydeaux -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 4:23:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Phydeaux Seems the founders didn't agree with you. The second Militia Act, passed May 8, 1792, conscripted every "free able-bodied white male citizen" between the ages of 18 and 45 into a local militia company. (This was later expanded to all males, regardless of race, between the ages 18-54) "every citizen, ...shall within six months thereafter, provide himself..." with a musket, bayonet and belt, two spare flints, a cartridge box with 24 bullets, and a knapsack.[5] And according to US code 311 - still in force No it is not. It was superseded by the dick act. http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/dickact.asp

Phydeaux -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 4:36:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail funny how nutsuckers leave off the part of the story where they did it before the Obama administration, and it was nutsucker appointees still in there that carried it over. Did "it" before obama. Yeah, tracking guns was done before, and resulted more than 440 arrests. Allowing guns to walk without tracking; filing off the tracking information; lying to congress; holding the Attorney General in contempt of congress for demonstrably lying to congress; yeah, that wasn't done before.

mnottertail -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 4:49:26 PM)
How many arrests in the recent incarnation? And the guns walked without tracking them days as well. The nutsuckers holding anyone in contempt is toiletlicking. W lied to congress, what did he get but a felch, Reagan lied to congress, more felching. Ad nauseam. And they never wrote a letter correcting their errors to congress. Harry "in the closet" Gowdy, lied to the American people and congress, and what you got but nutsuckers with shit on their breath and dicks in their hands going......No its over there!!!!! Its over there!!!!

mnottertail -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (3/15/2016 5:00:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail How many arrests in the recent incarnation? They got El Chapo and that's the gun trade. And the guns walked without tracking them days as well. The nutsuckers holding anyone in contempt is toiletlicking. W lied to congress, what did he get but a felch, Reagan lied to congress, more felching. Ad nauseam. And they never wrote a letter correcting their errors to congress. Harry "in the closet" Gowdy, lied to the American people and congress, and what you got but nutsuckers with shit on their breath and dicks in their hands going......No its over there!!!!! Its over there!!!!

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