joether -> RE: Guns Flowing Into Mexico (1/13/2016 7:21:36 AM)
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ORIGINAL: joether Mostly From the United States. That firearms and parts for firearms are flowing in Mexico at a steady rate. This has two effects: 1 ) People flee north from Mexico, and 2 ) The drug cartels have even more arms to defend against law enforcement. What is troubling in the GAO's report (45 pages) is not that arms are flowing from Texas, Arizona, and California so quickly, is that Gun Parts are also flowing. Since those parts are not required in a background check, someone could purchase thirty of the same part from ten dealers without gaining any notice. Later on that individual could construct the parts into a full firearm. Texas with its 'liberal' firearms laws account for 41% of those firearms found in Mexico as being the state of origin. Lets face if, if we want a firearm with no questions ask, we go to Texas. Might be why all the criminals and terrorists go there too.... The GAO's report places AR-15's as the 'perferred' weapon by drug troops. Go figure... The President has called on more background checks to all persons buying/selling firearms. I would add to it, the parts for firearms. The various agencies and department of justice is limited as to what actions they can take to mitigate the problem with solutions from Congress. Congress is about as 'quick' to fix these problems as they are on sending Americans to Mars. Fast and furious. Yes but instead of government, we have common US Citizens knowingly or unknowingly allowing firearms and parts to enter into the hands of evil people. Yep. Another factless post from huffingether. he Mexican government and the media have consistently blamed the U.S. for the vicious drug war in Mexico that has resulted in over 35,000 deaths since late 2006. A diplomatic cable released by Wikileaks will disappoint them, as it shows that 90 percent of the heavy weapons used by the drug cartels come from Central America. The strength of the drug cartels is more attributable to the Mexican government’s inefficiencies than America’s gun laws or consumption of narcotics. The highly-respected STRATFOR intelligence company agrees that the statistic (the democrat talking point that guns are coming from the us) is incorrect. The group likewise explained that only 3,480 guns were traced back to the U.S., which equals 12 percent of the total arms seized by the Mexican authorities in 2008 In addition, it simply doesn’t make sense for the Mexican drug cartels to make the U.S. their primary point of gun acquisition. As Howard Nemerov writes, “Why would cartels spend over $1,000 -- plus a background check and smuggling risks — for a decent American semi-automatic rifle, when they can buy 4-5 fully automatic AK-47s for the same price on the black market? http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/90583/where-drug-cartels-really-get-their-arms-ryan-mauro If you actually took the time to....READ...the GAO's study, you would find your viewpoint is entirely full of bullshit. If you had read it, you would understand a few things: 1 ) Parts are not given background checks One does not need a background check when purchasing the parts to a firearm. The report shows the difference between a lower receiver that counts as a firearm and one that does not. The one that doesn't only needs a basic machine shop to drill through the areas needed for mechanisms to be installed. Likewise those parts are easy to make and trade without any observation from legal authorities. Now what sort of individuals would NOT like law enforcement knowing they are trading hundreds of parts in a deal? 2 ) Texas and Arizona have the most 'liberal' gun controls of the fifty states When I state 'liberal' here, its not how we normally understand the word. These two states are notorious for firearm transactions that are both under the radar and unscrupulous. It should not be a surprise to anyone that Texas accounts for 41% of those arms traced back to the point of origin. If anyone wanted one or more guns for a criminal/terrorist activity, they travel to Texas. Texans have a bad reputation for not being honest; they did give the nation Ted Cruz..... 3 ) The GAO is not controlled by Democrats or the President Your accusation is based upon the idea that this report is published with the desires of the President or Democrats. The GAO has remained neutral on the politics. Since it has shown some 'not so nice' stuff about the ACA in the past. For someone with three college degrees, you should know better! The Mexico Drug Cartels will get their arms in any manner that is cost efficient. Right now, getting high powered arms from Texas and Arizona are the easiest sources. The report is rather damning those two states. They bitch high and wide about the inflow of immigrants (legal and not), drugs, and menacing individuals; yet, keeps the flow of arms constant and under the radar from the legal authorities because it is profitable. These same Texans are 'OK' with putting American lives at risk. An you want to defend these people?
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