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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 7:56:49 PM   
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That can shoot the toe of a foot 25 miles away.

You can shoot your mouth off from your keyboard.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 8:19:47 PM   
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As for..

Why should a utility want to buy your power at $.12 when it can make its own at $.035?

I make electricity for free.


No, you don't. If you actually did make electricity you'd know that.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 8:40:39 PM   
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As for..

Why should a utility want to buy your power at $.12 when it can make its own at $.035?

I make electricity for free.


No, you don't. If you actually did make electricity you'd know that.

The lights are on, the blender works, the microwave works...where did those electrons come from?

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 9:07:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
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As for..

Why should a utility want to buy your power at $.12 when it can make its own at $.035?

I make electricity for free.


No, you don't. If you actually did make electricity you'd know that.

The lights are on, the blender works, the microwave works...where did those electrons come from?



If any electricity was free everyone would do it. If solar was cheaper than buying from the grid, everyone would do it. You don't make free electricity and if you actually made electricity you'd know that. It's another of your lies.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 9:18:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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As for..

Why should a utility want to buy your power at $.12 when it can make its own at $.035?

I make electricity for free.


Sure you do. So you should be perfectly happy selling it to the utility for the same price.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 9:23:18 PM   
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I make electricity for free.


No, you don't. If you actually did make electricity you'd know that.

The lights are on, the blender works, the microwave works...where did those electrons come from?



If any electricity was free everyone would do it. If solar was cheaper than buying from the grid, everyone would do it. You don't make free electricity and if you actually made electricity you'd know that. It's another of your lies.

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Whereas a Kwhr in the us costs $.12 And in florida $.07.


The sun shines for free. What part of that escapes you?
A hundred watt pannel cost me $85.
A hundred watt pannel will make 1 kw in 2 days if we figure the pannel get 5 hours a day of exposure. I live in the desert southwest with much more than 5 hours of insolation...
.12 cents into $85. equals 708 days.
Now unless the sun stops shining the rest of the electricity it produces is free.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 9:24:25 PM   
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As for..

Why should a utility want to buy your power at $.12 when it can make its own at $.035?

I make electricity for free.


Sure you do. So you should be perfectly happy selling it to the utility for the same price.

Why would I do that?

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 10:40:05 PM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
ORIGINAL: thompsonx


I make electricity for free.


No, you don't. If you actually did make electricity you'd know that.

The lights are on, the blender works, the microwave works...where did those electrons come from?



If any electricity was free everyone would do it. If solar was cheaper than buying from the grid, everyone would do it. You don't make free electricity and if you actually made electricity you'd know that. It's another of your lies.

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Whereas a Kwhr in the us costs $.12 And in florida $.07.


The sun shines for free. What part of that escapes you?
A hundred watt pannel cost me $85.
A hundred watt pannel will make 1 kw in 2 days if we figure the pannel get 5 hours a day of exposure. I live in the desert southwest with much more than 5 hours of insolation...
.12 cents into $85. equals 708 days.
Now unless the sun stops shining the rest of the electricity it produces is free.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.






There you go showing you know nothing. You talk about the lights on, a blender and a microwave. A 100 watt panel produces about 20% of the label power at 12 volt. Not enough to even turn on one light let alone a 1500 watt microwave. 12 volts won't run anything in your house until you pass it through an inverter. And...oh...those little black boxes that you lectured me on called batteries because your light won't turn on at all at night (when you need the light). Your 12 volt panel may charge one small battery which may store a few watt hours, quickly used up by one 100 watt bulb if you have the inverter. The microwave would eat up that battery charge before you finished heating your top ramen. You see, you know nothing about electrical business or electrical physics. You show vast ignorance to other people who do understand it. I called BS on you regarding this some post ago and like other thread you just keep showing ignance. Now, get on your google and figure out if you really did have a solar system how much it would cost to buy, how much it would cost to install, and how much it would cost to maintain. Then figure out its life expectancy and replacement costs over time and then compare that to buying electricity from the power company. You'll...maybe...learn something and see just how stupid you sound now.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 10:43:43 PM   
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Yeah, I was going to get into it with thompson asking when he was going to get an airconditioner, tv and indoor plumbing. But I kept not getting around to it. So ++ Nnanji.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 10:59:27 PM   
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And so, even without the merest hint of wrongdoing - those liberal nazi's are subpoening people into silence.



http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-04-08/subpoenaed-into-silence-on-global-warming

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/10/2016 11:00:07 PM   
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Yeah, I was going to get into it with thompson asking when he was going to get an airconditioner, tv and indoor plumbing. But I kept not getting around to it. So ++ Nnanji.


Ya, if he ever does see that he's talking nonsense we'll ask him if his one solar panel is fixed or tracking. Tracking is expensive and a fixed panel will only produce about 45% of that 20% label power when the sun is up. So, he'd have to ask the manager of his studio apt if he could run a generator on cloudy days. Of course, as you know, the panel won't run on cloudy days so he won't have heat and his bucket of shit will freeze before he can get it out to the outhouse. Maybe if the manager will let him run a generator he can store his shit bucket near the exhaust manifold to prevent that from happening. Assuming, of course, he has a pot to piss in.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/11/2016 4:54:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


I make electricity for free.


No, you don't. If you actually did make electricity you'd know that.

The lights are on, the blender works, the microwave works...where did those electrons come from?



If any electricity was free everyone would do it. If solar was cheaper than buying from the grid, everyone would do it. You don't make free electricity and if you actually made electricity you'd know that. It's another of your lies.

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Whereas a Kwhr in the us costs $.12 And in florida $.07.


The sun shines for free. What part of that escapes you?
A hundred watt pannel cost me $85.
A hundred watt pannel will make 1 kw in 2 days if we figure the pannel get 5 hours a day of exposure. I live in the desert southwest with much more than 5 hours of insolation...
.12 cents into $85. equals 708 days.
Now unless the sun stops shining the rest of the electricity it produces is free.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.






There you go showing you know nothing. You talk about the lights on, a blender and a microwave. A 100 watt panel produces about 20% of the label power at 12 volt.

Funny thing about that, mine produce the rated power and have for the past 30 years. Why do you think they only put out 20% of their rated power?


Not enough to even turn on one light let alone a 1500 watt microwave. 12 volts won't run anything in your house until you pass it through an inverter.

Yes we have had this discussion and those inverters are available on ebay n the $200-$500 range.


And...oh...those little black boxes that you lectured me on called batteries because your light won't turn on at all at night (when you need the light). Your 12 volt panel may charge one small battery which may store a few watt hours, quickly used up by one 100 watt bulb

Why would anyone use incandescent bulbs when led is so available and so cheap and sooooo effecient.?


if you have the inverter. The microwave would eat up that battery charge before you finished heating your top ramen.

The pannels...yes more than one., charge a bank of batteries...yes more than one. The batteries are 2 volt 1500 amp hours. There are 12 of them. If you can do the math you will find that they not only can run the microwave but also the air conditioner and the lights and anything else I choose to use.




You see, you know nothing about electrical business or electrical physics.


I clearly know more than you.

You show vast ignorance to other people who do understand it. I called BS on you regarding this some post ago and like other thread you just keep showing ignance. Now, get on your google and figure out if you really did have a solar system how much it would cost to buy,

I have posted that for your edification already.


how much it would cost to install,

I did it myself...it just is not all that difficult.


and how much it would cost to maintain.


The only maintainance I have had to do is wipe the dust off the collectors...


Then figure out its life expectancy

I have been using them for 30 years and they still put out their rated power.


and replacement costs over time and then compare that to buying electricity from the power company. You'll...maybe...learn something and see just how stupid you sound now.


The sun shines for free...You are obviously too stupid to notice.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/11/2016 7:06:00 AM   
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Ya, if he ever does see that he's talking nonsense we'll ask him if his one solar panel is fixed or tracking.

Fixed


Tracking is expensive and a fixed panel will only produce about 45% of that 20% label power when the sun is up.

Where do you get this nonsense? The pannels produce their rated power for more than five hours a day.


So, he'd have to ask the manager of his studio apt if he could run a generator on cloudy days.

Try to pay attention...I live in the desert on ten acres.

Of course, as you know, the panel won't run on cloudy days

Solar pannels work on light....so even on cloudy days they make power.

so he won't have heat and his bucket of shit will freeze before he can get it out to the outhouse.

Heating is accomplished by propane. The shithouse is a composting toilet that is inside the bathroom.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/11/2016 7:07:37 AM   
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He uses a 20% figure, because the national average for solar collectors is they produce, on average 17% of their rated capacity due to things like, dust, night, clouds, rain, decreasing production over time etc.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/11/2016 7:30:39 AM   
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And so, even without the merest hint of wrongdoing - those liberal nazi's are subpoening people into silence.



http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-04-08/subpoenaed-into-silence-on-global-warming



LOL. The nutsucker nazis are all about subpoening Hillary et al into silence?

I wish they had a guffaw icon, that showed a sense of the cretinism that manufactured such a nutsuckerish thought.



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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/11/2016 8:04:31 AM   
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He uses a 20% figure, because the national average for solar collectors is they produce, on average 17% of their rated capacity due to things like, dust, night, clouds, rain, decreasing production over time etc.


Let me see f I understand you correctly.
A pannel puts out it's rated capacity for 5 hours a day. The day is 24 hours long so you diminish the output by that factor?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/11/2016 10:12:36 AM   
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He uses a 20% figure, because the national average for solar collectors is they produce, on average 17% of their rated capacity due to things like, dust, night, clouds, rain, decreasing production over time etc.


Can't your sock sqeak for itself?

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/11/2016 10:20:18 AM   
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He uses a 20% figure, because the national average for solar collectors is they produce, on average 17% of their rated capacity due to things like, dust, night, clouds, rain, decreasing production over time etc.



He's so cute. It's like a mom standing and asking her son if he'd knocked the TV off the stand and even though he was the only one in the room he lies and says no he didn't do it. The kid doesn't understand the mom knows he's did and is now watching him lie. He got on google fast but doesn't understand the new stuff he's saying that can't happen in the real world. I'm done with him he. He might be fun to play with on other threads.

By the way, good job. You've shut down the leftist orthodoxies here. I see them standing over in the corner with fingers in their ears saying "La La La La La La" so they don't have to hear you and think.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/11/2016 10:29:42 AM   
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Because he's a partisan hack that refuses to even consider the possibility that he's wrong or that there are people that are smarter than him.



Are you one of the smarter people? Are you disputing anything he's said?

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/11/2016 10:30:59 AM   
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Because he's a partisan hack that refuses to even consider the possibility that he's wrong or that there are people that are smarter than him.


the irony of statements like that to me, is, that the average person reading it can see what a fool you are in not only saying it, but even in thinking it.


So I'm a fool for speaking the truth? I've learned and understood the science, not the politics. The right wing is notorious for being anti-science, and if the liberals began doing the same then I would be against them too. In fact there are liberal groups that mislead science for political purposes; vegans, anti-vaxers, anti-GMO people, etc. I completely disagree with misleading people with false science, just as Phydeaux is doing himself.


Tell me about the science you've learned.

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