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Termyn8or -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 2:03:36 AM)

"allright..... (I said this was going to be good....) lets be logical about this,

what "some maniac." would " find out where" joe (or anybody) .....he is for posting what he does, and in this case questioning the nra that he should have fear & cause to add to the gun problem by buying a gun to protect himself from "some maniac." who shouldn't have any legal access to a gun because they are a "some maniac." in the 1st damn place."


Well OK then. Here we have Dave. I am not using the name Rufus or Tyrone here - Dave. Get it ? Dave has been locked up for 11 years for killing his Wife and brother in law. while in prison he met up with some martial arts folks and practiced and sparred, but there is no record of it so he does not have a registerd arm. He cannot get a gun, but he can beat like three normal people in a fight, is the equivalent of a black belt in at least three disciplines and can bench 350 pounds.

he is horny and wants some drugs but cannot get a job because he cannot pass a background check. The way he sees it is he thought he paid his debt to society but it seems they are never letting him in to society. So on the fifth of the month, he does not go to see his parole officer, he decides to have some fun. You only live once. he climbs in your bedroom window and you cower in the corner while he rapes and kills your Wife, and then he comes for you to make sure there are no witnesses.

He goes on the lam, robs a few stores and gas stations, killing a couple of people with his bare hands. He rapes and robs and gets halfway across the country until he gets to a place where someone is armed and drops him like a fucking piece of shit that he is.

But there are like five more people dead because some people are fucking paranoid about guns. And I mean paranoid. I might not be up on all the new models and features, but I am pretty sure that none of them have a mechanism to pull their own trigger. I would also venture to guess that none of them have a remote control or could be made to go off in the even of say, a stray bluetooth signal.

The people who are afraid of guns are afraid of people, and that is because they are mentally unstable and project that onto others thinking everyone is unstable like they are.

You know what the REAL problem is here ? I think in a matter of a decade or two given current trends in the brainlessness of the general public, they might become right.

And I like RO's sign. I wouldn't put one up because it is just wrong, but it is your right to do so. If you got a really sickening liberal neighbor, maybe it would be appropriate.

And I wonder, how come liberals, who do not understand basic mathematics, get to decide if we can have this or that. Guns, drugs, whatever. They need to STFU or else they might just pay the ultimate price for trying to take away our rights. If I am your neighbor and I see someone drilling your head into the ground out back, I will go get my gun and shoot the motherfucker.

However if you have the government take my gun, or try to take my gun, you are shit out of luck dude. You all liberals just do not see reality. There are ANIMALS out there. And you cannot tell, they are all races and sizes and sexes even. You never know.

When I go out in public, I do not carry. I probably should but I do not feel like going through that CCW shit. Other than knowing more models, I know enough and have proven my ability to shoot accurately. And I do not want to open carry. In fact where I work prohibits firearms, and I don't go all that many places. Once in a while the libido might send me out, but there is not much else as I have almost everything at home. I even sold a bunch of cool shit and do not miss it at all. But there are other people. People who have to carry large amounts of money. There is a job I wouldn't want, but if I had to do it I would do it with a fucking Uzi hanging out my shirt.

You cannot just go around thinking that we live in an elementary school playground, or some dumb shit like that. the world is not like that. These motherfuckers will kill you for tennis shoes, or a blowjob. they stick it in your mouth, if you bite they will take a blunt instrument and knock out all your teeth. In some cases these maniacs have cut out Women's or girl's eyes so they could not identify them in court.

If anyone is stupid enough to not have a gun in this society, maybe they'll get a Darwin award. Fuck it. There is no talking to the mentality of a brick fucking wall.

I am getting tired of talking about it really. Like every time a gun goes off they think we need more laws. Well I am for a law against more laws.

T^T




itsSIRtou -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 2:12:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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Sometimes I wondrr about people's motivation. But then I realize again how easy it is to be brainwashed these day, what with no thing in the brain for the first three years. nothing to build upon. so sometimes it gets done remedially, like when someone is in the hospital wishing he had a gun last night.

Keep starting these threads joe. Eventually some maniac will find out where you are and of course can be assured you don't have the means to shoot him.

amusing,... suppressing 1st amendment freedom by way of threat of 2nd amendment freedom. How very white American of you.

Termy didn't say anything about anyone exercising their Second Amendment freedom against anybody. He commented on the potential consequences of them not exercising theirs. But hey, I get it. Who cares, right? The important thing is to shit on white Americans.

Pat yourself on the back and have a cookie.

K.




yeh termy is saying joe is advertising


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This is what u gun nuts are saying....

(darn it,... the file uploader isn't working right. )

I'll have to post it later....





Termyn8or -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 2:17:35 AM)

"this is what u gun nuts are saying.... "

Watch out, Dave might be coming.

Oh, and Dave has another new skill. Got that fancy alarm system and paying for monitoring ? Well Dave learned how to make a cellphone jammer and also knows how to cut the phone and cable wires to your house.

So even if your police response time is in milliseconds, they are not coming.

T^T




itsSIRtou -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 2:26:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"this is what u gun nuts are saying.... "

Watch out, Dave might be coming.

Oh, and Dave has another new skill. Got that fancy alarm system and paying for monitoring ? Well Dave learned how to make a cellphone jammer and also knows how to cut the phone and cable wires to your house.

So even if your police response time is in milliseconds, they are not coming.

T^T


Don't have an alarm system....

And well then, whomever that dave is... is out of luck for an ambulance, unless they can hear him scream from that far away,... and hes going to need one,....and I have no need to tell you or him why.
Im sure the coroner will have fun with him later.


Note: I wrote the above comment without seeing ur previous long fictional post.

I have more to say but Im going to let u know I grew up with those ANIMALS you fear so much.
And just so Im clear, white AND Black Animals so your little story of dave the horny white boy doesn't phase Me in the least.

u live a life that u have to be in fear and mistrust of everybody enough to feel u need a gun?

Welcome to My world since I was 6 years old.

Hell at My age I cant even trust the fucking police to show up and not think Im the perp and shoot My ass first before ur buddy dave. If they will shoot a 12 year old with a toy gun, what bet you wanna make a 40-something, tall, dredlocked Black Man is dropped twice as fast with a real one?

shit even your sorry ass will take one look at a Black Man fighting with one of your own kind and in that spit second shoot Me first and be surprised as hell when dave says thanks! And turns on you and kills you with your own piece, because he's chill like that.

So you telling Me who to fear is a total crock of shit.

because None of u with a gun are safe to be around.








thompsonx -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 4:08:55 AM)

ORIGINAL: Kirata

But hey, I get it. Who cares, right? The important thing is to shit on white Americans.

Our victimhood counselor is hellen wait. Please take a number and when called you can go to hellen wait and tell her of your issues about how white ameriika has been beaten down and shit upon for lo these past 200+ years.




Lucylastic -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 4:32:38 AM)

FR

my god, dick waving and chest thumping, over how amazing guns are.
AGAIN
pathetic.




itsSIRtou -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 9:55:44 AM)


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But hey, I get it. Who cares, right? The important thing is to shit on white Americans.


Our victimhood counselor is hellen wait. Please take a number and when called you can go to hellen wait and tell her of your issues about how white ameriika has been beaten down and shit upon for lo these past 200+ years.



Actually more like 500+ years unless you count all the years they insist Jesus was white then its 2000+ years. just say'n




joether -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 10:48:48 AM)

I posted that article because I wanted to see just how much 'apologizing', political spinning, and backpedaling would have to take place to justify why the NRA did not show up. Its fucking amusing! Yes, some of you use character assassinations because you have no decent counters. Some of you simply raise the ante on conspiracies (i.e. CNN is anti-gun), the remainder try to made a defense that can be flatten without effort. You can not accept reality:

The NRA didn't show up because they couldn't have things heavily weighed in their favor. They can not handle a frank, honest discussion using facts and history to push America forward. Since using 'fear' and 'hatred' would be removed from the discussion. The two items the NRA and the GOP/TP use to justify just about all their positions. They couldn't debate the President of the United States on a topic of significant importance to them. Hence all the conspiracies to 'justify' not showing up.




Real0ne -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 11:10:07 AM)

Thats easy Joe, they simply didnt dignify the whiners.

Joe, lets make a deal. I expect that people would agree with me that when the gublmint and the military and all the thugs world wide give up there guns then I think we might be able to work something out.

Let me know when you have accomplished that Joe




Real0ne -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 11:20:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

FR

my god, dick waving and chest thumping, over how amazing guns are.
AGAIN
pathetic.


but Lucy how many people would rob or attack someone if they knew the house had guns and this could happen to them?

Do you think guns are not a good deterent to crime in our altruistic benevolent cut throat everyone for themselves commercial society?


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now I dont know about you but that guys head is gone and he is still smilin!







joether -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 11:55:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Sometimes I wondrr about people's motivation. But then I realize again how easy it is to be brainwashed these day, what with no thing in the brain for the first three years. nothing to build upon. so sometimes it gets done remedially, like when someone is in the hospital wishing he had a gun last night.

Keep starting these threads joe. Eventually some maniac will find out where you are and of course can be assured you don't have the means to shoot him.

amusing,... suppressing 1st amendment freedom by way of threat of 2nd amendment freedom. How very white American of you.

Termy didn't say anything about anyone exercising their Second Amendment freedom against anybody. He commented on the potential consequences of them not exercising theirs. But hey, I get it. Who cares, right? The important thing is to shit on white Americans.


WOW.....

The amount of bullshit you have to shovel there....

No, Termie did state of someone using the 2nd amendment to SILENCE other peoples viewpoints. That is *NOT* what the second amendment was created. Nor how it should operate. You just tried to justify tyranny towards your fellow Americans! Termie is in the wrong for stating it; your twice more for trying to bullshit the reality. Termie can be forgiven for not thinking things through.





itsSIRtou -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 12:01:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Thats easy Joe, they simply didnt dignify the whiners.

Joe, lets make a deal. I expect that people would agree with me that when the gublmint and the military and all the thugs world wide give up there guns then I think we might be able to work something out.

Let me know when you have accomplished that Joe


actually its more like when the "law-abiding" gun owners of this country take as much responsibility of ownership of the damn things as much as they covet the second amendment or flap their gums about it, then maybe we wouldn't need "to work something out." as much.

just cutting back on gun accidents would be a plus. when u have dumbasses from VP dick cheney shooting his friend in the head, to the local guy here who illegally brought a handgun into a target store only to have it fall out of his pocket and put a dent in the floor and a hole in the ceiling from the ricochet, among countless other gun fuckups, does NOT inspire the slightest bit of confidence in the a safety of a gun.





joether -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 12:33:11 PM)

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Thats easy Joe, they simply didnt dignify the whiners.


Your right, the American people should not have to dignify the whiners in our society. Yet, being adults, CNN invited the NRA to that forum the same as they did for the President. Why should the rest of America put up with individuals for the NRA that behave like children? With child-like attitudes? The NRA and its members feel they can behave like immature children but force everyone else to be an adult on the conversation. I disagree. If one behaves like an immature child but is physically an adult, they should not have access to a firearm. Grow the fuck up!

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Joe, lets make a deal. I expect that people would agree with me that when the gublmint and the military and all the thugs world wide give up there guns then I think we might be able to work something out.


Who are the thugs? Since there are a bunch of 'thugs' holed up at a bird sanctuary in Oregon. Then there are Tea Party 'thugs'. After that, we have NRA 'thugs'. All of these people have guns. All of them would like an excuse to attack their fellow Americans. To some how justify why they should have guns. The problem, is the length and depth of HELL that excuse resides in; should serve as an example of what is wrong.

I realized a year or two ago what is wrong: Trust. Or the lack of it. Try to keep up...

Gun nuts do not trust the government or liberals (to some extent, moderates as well). Yet demanded unconditional trust from everyone back towards them. This would be in reducing firearm laws all the while making threats and pushing fear of terrible things if their demands are not met. Does that sound like someone whom wants a nation of freedom and liberty? Or a tyrant?

On a BDSM site, I would think....anyone....that does D/s, SM, bondage, etc, would understand the inherent need for trust. The Dom has to trust the sub. The sub has to trust the Dom. Since hitting someone with a flogger without consent, is illegal.

Trust is a two way street.

That means if the gun nut doesn't trust Americans; why should Americans trust the gun nut? That is why laws are created. The more this distrust manifest itself; the faster gun laws are enacted. Or politicians that support gun nuts are removed from public office for those that side with other Americans. The problem is that gun nuts do not know how to trust others. Or to grow trust in others. Being immature does that. Being ignorant does that too!

Does having a firearm make someone a gun nut? Or approve if not agree of gun nut's political viewpoints? No. It states someone is a firearm owner. A gun nut is one that has some real problems that a good therapist could help out. Firearm owners tend to be individuals that are responsible with their arms. They know how to build trust with their fellow Americans. They understand that someone whom has been compromised (i.e. diagnosis with Depression) should not have a firearm. They (the Depression patient) could be at risk of hurting themselves and others. In this country in 2013, twice as many people that died from homicides with firearms, died from suicide with firearms. That is what responsibility with a firearms REALLY MEANS. The lady that got an AR-15 that allowed Sandy Hook to take place? Was not responsible. She should have known her own son was not responsible with a firearm to allow access.

Yes, there are areas we can agree on. But using fear and hatred to justify the need to have a firearm or counter laws to keep arms from falling into the wrong hands; is not acceptable.

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Let me know when you have accomplished that Joe


Dude, I've been willing to debate better firearm laws that allow citizens to have arms, while keeping them out of the hands of the wrong people for months if not years. I've suggested the 2nd amendment being used for law enforcement (i.e. the uncorrupted version) and the 28th being about self defense of the individual person or others. Not one conservative takes me up on such a discussion. I guess they are all scared of living in a nation with good firearm laws that sees less mass shootings. Guns falling into the wrong hands. Of Americans showing more trust in one another. A golden age for the United States of America.....

The NRA's views place this nation on an ugly future. Do we really need to let things play out for you to understand that ugly reality? Or to do what we do great at as a nation: innovate better solutions to common problems.




WickedsDesire -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 12:41:12 PM)

itsSIRtou scaree biscuits indeed

Guns kill. And that is as complex ass that argument gets.

Where guns are more readily accessible, easy to buy - with a four pack of delicious muffins. Death and carnage follows. Tis not bazooka science. And the only people who argue against that are deranged of mentul capacitors, a vested interested, or trollop out the second amendment; a spurious read and written in times of olde to wipe and ancient indigenous population to the verge of extinction

I truly grow wearisome over all of time
here is a pants article
Gun deaths v terrorism





lovmuffin -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 1:44:31 PM)

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Then there are Tea Party 'thugs'. After that, we have NRA 'thugs'. All of these people have guns. All of them would like an excuse to attack their fellow Americans.


Really Joe, did you get dropped on your head when you were a baby ?


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I've been willing to debate better firearm laws that allow citizens to have arms, while keeping them out of the hands of the wrong people for months if not years. I've suggested the 2nd amendment being used for law enforcement (i.e. the uncorrupted version) and the 28th being about self defense of the individual person or others. Not one conservative takes me up on such a discussion.



Many here have debated your fantasy interpretation of the Second Amendment numerous times. It has been proven over and over that you're full of shit. Give it a rest.




stef -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 1:52:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: joether
Then there are Tea Party 'thugs'. After that, we have NRA 'thugs'. All of these people have guns. All of them would like an excuse to attack their fellow Americans.


Really Joe, did you get dropped on your head when you were a baby ?

I don't think there's any credible evidence to prove it stopped once he reached adulthood.




Kirata -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 2:17:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

This is what u get for fear mongering. No matter how veiled you made it, that's what you did by telling in any way joe shouldn't (in this case) post things against the nra because "some maniac" would be assured he wouldn't have a gun to protect himself.

I have no idea what you're talking about, and I don't think you do either. I didn't tell joether anything, veiled or otherwise.

Have a nice day.

K.





Phydeaux -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 2:24:16 PM)


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Yeah, the NRA decides not to attend a townhall where the participants are chosen by a pro gun control group, where the moderator already has enumerated pro-gun positions, where the president has already in numerated pro gun control positions, and CNN is pro gun control.

And the NRA should want to go why?


Oh I don't know.... Maybe show that all their fear-mongering isnt just that? Or just another way to drive up the stock of gun company's?

Seriously, IF the gun lobby is so damn correct, it should of been able to walk in with best jock strap on and prove it. Even if they thought it was a set up.

Or is it only that ballsy when it has a gun in its hand? Or you gun lovers big mouths to spew with?





Or maybe they could say .. the time would be better spent raising money, and motivating NRA voters, and defeating whatever idiots the democrats nominate.



yea,.... like they did the last 2 elections...

And ya don't think that by having the balls to join in the conversation might give them a chance to covert their naysayers by doing so?

Or maybe show that y'all aren't the brainwashed people you infer we are?

Nope, "maniac" money tigers only. And the President is smarter than nra 5th graders.





We're the brainwashed idiots?
Terrorist act.. promote gun control.
Deflation.. promote gun control.
Tuesday.. promote gun control.


As for the last two elections - it seems to have escaped your attention - but they have been the best republican showing since 1929.





ifmaz -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 7:41:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: joether
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I realized a year or two ago what is wrong: Trust. Or the lack of it. Try to keep up...
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Trust is a two way street.
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I don't trust you so you must prove to me you are capable of expressing your First Amendment rights properly or I will take them away.




thompsonx -> RE: The NRA Conspiracy (1/19/2016 7:50:43 PM)


ORIGINAL: ifmaz

I don't trust you so you must prove to me you are capable of expressing your First Amendment rights properly or I will take them away.

What do we do with people who shout fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire?




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