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ORIGINAL: mousekabob

What would I have done? Left them handle their own fight. They're adults.

Not my monkey. Not my circus.

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why did I get involved at all? Because girls need rescuing and protecting from the shit they get themselves into right?

Wrong

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Do the s-types out there agree with the thought that 'this "lifestyle" has become far too tolerant its practitioners?'
Are you "impressionable young subs" that need protecting?
Are you capable of making rational decisions on whom you give consent to?

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How do you like it when strangers define your sex lives?
Do you like being rescued by that Knight in Shining Armor, being saved from drowning in the heat of sub-frenzy by the strong arm of the strange lifeguard pulling you to shore and safety?

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I personally like knights in shining armour.

The conundrum is, one of the key elements of being a sub is because, you don't really want to be the decision maker of your own life and the eventual goal is to give it up to someone else whom you can trust to be the decision maker for both of you at all times. But real life gets in the way, and you do need to be the leader of your own life, because real life gets in the way of fantasy.

But some might get too caught up with fantasy and give up total control, or some dominants might call these "true subs", as they just want to follow and not make any decisions on their own.

So I do believe there is a vulnerable age group, young girls. I mean, sex is legal from 16, at least in my country. So would I worry about 50 yr old sadistic person who really just want to break and destroy a 16 yr old in an unhealthy way, yes, I think people who do this, should be cast out of the kink community, as they are not practicing D/S in a healthy way where they are doing things in the best interest of their submissive. And they intentionally target broken and vulnerable targets. Girls with low self-esteem, with family problems etc.

I think because we believe bdsm is healthy, we need to regulate it a little to keep it healthy and call out those who are practicing real abuse.

I had a conversation recently with a late forties dom, but this was online and his not from my country, or in my country, and not from collarspace, who met this 18 yr old girl, who has self-esteem problems. First of all, he told me she had a hard time finding any older man to want to have sex with her. I say, wow, that's really really weird, usually older men would queue up and die to screw 18 yr olds. I mean, that's my experience when I was 18 yr old. But then he described her to be morbidly obese, that's why.

So anyway, first he took her virginity, and then, he started telling me how he wants to arrange gang bang for her with his friends. And then apparently she chicken out of it and didn't turn up on the day it was arranged. I felt his seething anger, and I was like, "She's obviously uncomfortable with it, why are you are sooo intended on making her do this?" And his just like, "She WILL do it, I will make her!"

And I don't know what happened again, because I think he already felt my judgmental tone to this whole thing, and we stopped talking.

One thing I learn from my x-dom is that he always told me, in the play parties he attend, sometimes, he really wonder if things were consensual in some situations, because the girl involved would be like crying and begging not to do it, and then forced into it. Her dominant would claim it's consensual and this her style. And would say she has a safe word but she wouldn't use it. And you don't even know if it's just role play or blackmail. Because if it's blackmail, then she can't use the safe word anyway. I have never attended a play party myself, because, even when I was with him, I told him, bdsm is between me and him only. It's private between us, not to shared with others.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Personally I doubt that was ever anything but a fantasy in his mind. I doubt he ever met her, and I doubt that she was actually a woman. It's a lot more likely that it was two guys cybering, each pretending to be something they aren't.

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it's just so much more fun and good to think of heroes the way you want to ^_^ That's how I think of it, anyway, hehe. It's certainly more of a fantasy thing as oppose to a reality.