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RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 5:35:47 PM   
Wayward5oul


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quote:

ORIGINAL: crumpets
Oh wow. Just wow. How can you be that dense?

Oh I don't know. How can you be such an ass?

quote:

Don't you know that I have created multiple threads in the perv-to-perv section trying to HELP people UNDERSTAND issues and how to protect themselves on Collarspace/Collarchat?

I am aware. We are all aware.




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RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 5:38:28 PM   
LadyPact


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quote:

ORIGINAL: crumpets


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
There is nothing in my private messages or forum posts that reveal any more info than what I am ready willing to give.


Like I said, there are always (at least) two kinds of people:
1. People who don't mind EVERYTHING they typed into collarspace mails being made public, and,
2. People who would mind everything they typed into their collarspace mails being made public.

BTW, this includes people who are two-timing, and people who are married, and people who tell someone they have Herpes or HIV, and people who tell one person they're gay while they tell the other that they're heterosexual, etc.

Everything is everything.
Once they have your password (and, trust us, they have your password if they want to just look for it), then they have EVERYTHING (within the past year, anyway).

The quote above should not be attributed to me. I was quoting another person in my response. Yes, a simple ooppps but I don't want anyone confused. I'm not sure of how any of the above contradicts what I said.

quote:

I can't speak for the OP, but "my" issue isn't the personal details of the initial login.
Mine would be the fact that ALL MY MAILS are open game for ANYONE who wants them (who knows how to get them).
That's anyone in the library or Starbucks within WiFi distance, anyone at my ISP at home, anyone in the house who wants my password, anyone on any server that the port 80 http connection goes through (which can be a dozen or more servers - just do a traceroute for an idea of how many hops it takes to get from your computer to the collarspace server and back).

To me, this sounds more like you have a decision to make whether to access the site or not. In my opinion, the site's not going to change it's security or lack thereof. Unlike the OP, I'm not supporting some kind of write-in campaign.

quote:

I see this as the chicken-and-the-egg problem.
You rarely have to prove you're a female, but, a guy would want to be sure he's talking to a female before he bothers to meet "her".
And, a woman might need the guy to prove he's not overweight or not bald or that he really does have that Clark Gable look.
Most women would like the security of a guy who gives his real name, and maybe his real phone number, wouldn't they?
I know I'd like that.

I'm not intentionally trying to sound snarky but it's probably going to. I think you have me confused with those who primarily use this site to date. I don't mean any offense to those that do. I just don't think I'd have the patience for it.

quote:

I don't think this is the issue that the OP brought up though.
Certainly it can happen - but - really - it can and will happen with or without https SSL/TLS encryption.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but, snooping by those on Collarspace/Collarchat who have root privileges isn't at all the issue being discussed here that was brought up by the OP.

Well, considering what's gone on through other threads, it would be my opinion that should be a concern.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
It's not especially the signing up for this site that you have to worry about. Instead, think of everything you've ever said is a supposedly private email. Admins really do have access to that stuff.

Again, the issue that the OP brought up seems to be:
  • Google indexes (apparently) all the profiles and collarchat discussions (this is not my beef, btw)
  • Your Collarspace/Collarchat login/password is easily compromised (almost certainly already IS compromised), if you've ever logged in from a non-encrypted access point or if you've logged in from home on an ethernet connection, or if anyone anywhere along the chain from your modem to the collarme/collarchat site, including the ISP, feels like looking at your login/password which are all transmitted in the clear, clear across the Internet!



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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 5:48:42 PM   
    Wayward5oul


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: crumpets
    Do you really THINK for a moment that I have EVER logged into this site without the protection of ENCRYPTION?


    Gee crumpets, what are you getting so worked up for? Don't have a coronary, dude.

    quote:

    I'd also like to know HOW you folks who say you can meet up with people without giving them ANY personal information do it.

    Your turn to try the reading comprehension trick, dude. I've already explained it.

    quote:

    (I sure hope you don't vote. Please tell me you don't vote!)

    Every chance I get. And twice on Sunday.

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 5:51:25 PM   
    mousekabob


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    I have met people here, mostly who contacted me first, whom I converse with almost daily.

    How am I gonna do that without a real phone number?

    (Sure, I can use Spoofcard, which I have posted about on other threads - where I can have the caller ID show up as your mother's caller ID if I wanted to - but how are they ever gonna call me back if/when I do that?)

    Some of the people I converse daily with are on the other side of the country, and one is on the other side of the world.
    Ya think I'm gonna converse with them on a frequent basis using just the collarspace mail?
    Sure, it CAN be done - and I'm sure it works for plenty of people - but - it won't work for quality people.

    Again, I'm not talking hookers. They don't care if you look like Homer Simpson.
    But quality people often care to find out something REAL about you.

    And besides, all you guys seem hung up on a SINGLE piece of data such as a personal bit of information.

    Remember, your ENTIRE mailbox is basically handed to anyone who wants it (because they will have your login/password).

    So, part of being private is all the meta information that is in your mailbox.
    I have very long conversations with many people here, and these conversations are private to those people.
    I'm sure I'm not the only one.

    Maybe all YOU do is textspeak but I actually write detailed emails (some folks on this very thread can attest to that fact).


    It's called CollarSpace email on the other side. They email you there. No phone number needed. No other email needed. No real names needed....nada, nothing at all needed except CollarSpace email....and I can access that on my phone. If they're not gonna show or be late for a coffee meeting then they can email it there and I can check it. I can even set up my phone to notify me when someone emails me there! Nifty, huh?

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 5:56:30 PM   
    crumpets


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
    Good for them. They want to give out personal info? So be it. They aren't me. This is how I guard myself. I don't have to depend on someone else to keep my info secure.

    Our missives are crossing in the ether, so, I'm not sure you realize that this "personal info" includes whom you converse with, what you tell them, when you tell it to them, what they say back in return, etc.

    Do you really think it's fair that EVERYONE you speak to, who tells YOU anything, now has all THEIR personal information also potentially spilled out on the web?

    Can you be so utterly naive to think that "personal info" ONLY includes something concrete like a specific phone number or email address?

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
    In this day and age, if someone has no other online presence than just this site, then that is a HUGE red flag for me. If the total of their experience within this risky lifestyle can be summed up on just this site, then they are not anyone I want to meet anyway.

    That's a fine attitude, and I'm not gonna argue with your point above.

    What I'm trying to sink into your head is that some people don't want what they say to all their contacts and what all their contacts say to them (every single word) spread out all over the web, simply because the site is utterly lax on security.
    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
    You are assuming that you have to give them something. You don't. That's your choice to take that risk. Not mine.


    You totally missed the point that QUALITY women require some kind of information from you that they can TRUST.
    Hookers don't need anything but your George Washingtons.
    But, QUALITY WOMEN don't just meet up with someone because he says he's single and monogamous and rich and intelligent and disease free and all the other things guys tell women (and vice versa).

    BESIDES, you have pigeonholed the information that is available to anyone with your login and password to JUST your contact information.

    Somehow, even after a half dozen posts, you fail to comprehend that information is not just contact information.
    I don't know how old you are, but you speak with the presumed wisdom of an 18 year old.

    There is a LOT of private information just in whom you write to and in what you write.
    Of course, since reading comprehension is clearly not your forte, I supposed you only write something like this:

  • YOU: Hi. How r u?
    SHE: Hi! LOL i is shy LOL
  • YOU: Hi. LOL. Wana fuk?
    SHE: Kewl! i can tell u r the best! LOL
  • YOU: U wan a fuk rite now?
    SHE: Not yet! Wat u name?
  • YOU: No name! LOL. Where u b?
    SHE: Rite here! But wat u phone?
  • YOU: No phone! LOL. Where b dat u o so sxy babe?
    SHE: Here! LOL. Wat you email?
  • YOU: No email! U funny. Where b here?
    SHE: Starbuks silly! Wat u age?
  • YOU: B there in 10 min!
    SHE: OK. See u 2!
    ... hours later ...
  • YOU: U r the best! LOLZ
    SHE: u 2!!!!!!!! LOL
    ... minutes later ...
    SHE: Sory u found out I was guy wid big dik... LOL.
    ... and they lived happily ever after ...

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 5:58:58 PM   
    LadyPact


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    quote:

    I'd also like to know HOW you folks who say you can meet up with people without giving them ANY personal information do it.


    It's real simple. "I will be at this munch on this date." I'm a 5'2" redhead and I'm probably the only one carrying a purse that looks like a boot. It's old fashioned but it works.


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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 6:10:09 PM   
    crumpets


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: LadyPact
    To me, this sounds more like you have a decision to make whether to access the site or not.

    Nope. That's the wrong answer (IMHO).

    You can have your cake and eat it too if you simply add encryption yourself (like I do).
    (VPN and TOR are not perfect; but they're far better than no encryption at all!)

    See? How to protect yourself is one thing I'm trying to TEACH people.

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: LadyPact
    In my opinion, the site's not going to change it's security or lack thereof.
    Unlike the OP, I'm not supporting some kind of write-in campaign.

    I'm with you on this.
    I had a long discussion with a MOD about a year ago, where I concluded it's a lost cause.
    He told me the site's admins had so many problems, YOUR SECURITY was the least of their worries!

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: LadyPact
    I'm not intentionally trying to sound snarky but it's probably going to. I think you have me confused with those who primarily use this site to date. I don't mean any offense to those that do. I just don't think I'd have the patience for it.

    Hi LP,
    Of all the people who post here, YOU are actually one that I know a little bit about (probably one of about a handful). So, I'm only speaking in generalities when I disucss what teh issues are.

    Some people here don't care if a large part of the world knows everything about them.
    Others do.

    The warnings and advice are for those that care.
    I don't even understand why those that don't care are even posting here - they're just cluttering up the picture.
    quote:

    ORIGINAL: LadyPact
    Certainly it can happen - but - really - it can and will happen with or without https SSL/TLS encryption.

    I don't frequent many of these "personal" sites, but...
  • Do you think Fetlife would be caught dead without SSL/TLS encryption for the entire site?
  • Do you think Craigslist.org has SSL/TLS encryption for their logins?
  • Do you think Google Gmail would be a viable business if it didn't have SSL/TLS encryption?
    etc.

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: LadyPact
    it would be my opinion that should be a concern.

    Fair enough that snooping by the admins is a concern.
    It's just not the concern the OP brought up in this thread.
    Nor is it a concern related to SSL/TLS encryption which I'm trying to educate people on how to protect against.

    As always, you bring up good issues.
    I'm glad you vote!

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 6:11:23 PM   
    angelikaJ


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    Status: offline     		No, responding via ridicule only makes you seem trollish.
    If that is what you are trying to achieve then good for you.
    IF you are trying for something else, then you might want to drop that tactic.




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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 6:19:05 PM   
    crumpets


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: LadyPact

    quote:

    I'd also like to know HOW you folks who say you can meet up with people without giving them ANY personal information do it.


    It's real simple. "I will be at this munch on this date." I'm a 5'2" redhead and I'm probably the only one carrying a purse that looks like a boot. It's old fashioned but it works.



    I'm trying to have you run the thought experiment to put yourself in someone else's shoes.

    You are well known in the community.
    You have a full body picture with a face picture.
    Heck, if I went to a munch that you were at, I'd probably recognized you in a split second.

    But, would you recognize me?
    Certainly you could not possibly.

    So, you're not everyone (and neither am I).

    Besides, I'm trying to explain that YOUR ENTIRE MAILBOX is what's at stake.

    So, every single mail you sent to person 1 is available not only to person 1 but ALL YOUR MAIL is also your mom, but also to your priest and to your next door neighbor and to your stalker and to the police and to your boss and to anyone on the Internet (which is pretty much everyone).

    Do you (plural you, not "just" you) really want that?


    < Message edited by crumpets -- 1/24/2016 6:26:08 PM >

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 6:20:36 PM   
    Wayward5oul


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: crumpets
    Our missives are crossing in the ether, so, I'm not sure you realize that this "personal info" includes whom you converse with, what you tell them, when you tell it to them, what they say back in return, etc.

    Nope, I understand that exactly. Everything I have said has been with that understanding.

    quote:

    Do you really think it's fair that EVERYONE you speak to, who tells YOU anything, now has all THEIR personal information also potentially spilled out on the web?

    No, I don't think that. Because I don't think about that. They are taking the same risks that I am. I'm not their babysitter.

    quote:

    Can you be so utterly naive to think that "personal info" ONLY includes something concrete like a specific phone number or email address?

    See above.

    quote:

    What I'm trying to sink into your head is that some people don't want what they say to all their contacts and what all their contacts say to them (every single word) spread out all over the web, simply because the site is utterly lax on security.

    I would hope that anyone with any sense would be know to protect themselves. They are big boys and girls who live in the age of Ashley Madison hacks and the hacker group Anonymous. If they haven't picked up on that clue yet, they I am willing to bet that they have bigger issues than worrying about this site's security.

    quote:

    You totally missed the point that QUALITY women require some kind of information from you that they can TRUST.

    You are either
    a. telling a woman that she missed your explanations to her on how women behave, in which case I would say you have bigger issues than just this site's security
    OR
    b. you are implying that I am not a QUALITY woman, in which case, screw you.

    quote:

    BESIDES, you have pigeonholed the information that is available to anyone with your login and password to JUST your contact information.

    Somehow, even after a half dozen posts, you fail to comprehend that information is not just contact information.

    Nope. See above. Read slowly if it helps.

    quote:

    Of course, since reading comprehension is clearly not your forte, I supposed you only write something like this:

  • YOU: Hi. How r u?
    SHE: Hi! LOL i is shy LOL
  • YOU: Hi. LOL. Wana fuk?
    SHE: Kewl! i can tell u r the best! LOL
  • YOU: U wan a fuk rite now?
    SHE: Not yet! Wat u name?
  • YOU: No name! LOL. Where u b?
    SHE: Rite here! But wat u phone?
  • YOU: No phone! LOL. Where b dat u o so sxy babe?
    SHE: Here! LOL. Wat you email?
  • YOU: No email! U funny. Where b here?
    SHE: Starbuks silly! Wat u age?
  • YOU: B there in 10 min!
    SHE: OK. See u 2!
    ... hours later ...
  • YOU: U r the best! LOLZ
    SHE: u 2!!!!!!!! LOL
    ... minutes later ...
    SHE: Sory u found out I was guy wid big dik... LOL.
    ... and they lived happily ever after ...


    • See should be 'c'.
    was should be 'wuz'
    the should be 'hte'
    wat should be 'wut'

    Christ on a cracker, if you are going to insult someone at least do it correctly. Otherwise, it kind of dampens the effect...

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 6:25:56 PM   
    PonyGroom


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    Status: offline     		Google announced some time ago that adding SSL to your site would improve the index scores of your pages.

    They could probably get the new, free, TLS cert installed dirt cheap, too.

    So there's that. Otherwise I see no reason to use SSL here. Nor does the site admin.

    If you use Wifi in a McDonalds, you risk all sorts of things besides whatever you do with a site like this.

    Right now, I am posting a message Google, Yahoo and Bing can index. After SSL or TLS is installed, I will still be posting on a site these search engines can index. Admin here wants the site indexed, and a huge number of pages exist in the search archives already.

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 6:30:39 PM   
    crumpets


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    ORIGINAL: PonyGroom
    Right now, I am posting a message Google, Yahoo and Bing can index. After SSL or TLS is installed, I will still be posting on a site these search engines can index. Admin here wants the site indexed, and a huge number of pages exist in the search archives already.


    I don't disagree with you.

    The OP brought up the indexing, not me.

    Site indexing is a different beast than what I'm trying to teach people.

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 6:32:46 PM   
    PonyGroom


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    Status: offline     		I've met in person more than 1000 people, mostly by showing up at munches.

    These days there are at least 10,000 meetings monthly where you might find a friend.

    Munches, coffees, and meetups in over 100 countries are listed on Findamunch.

    http://findamunch.com

    And no, that site does not have SSL. In 2016, we hope to install TLS so our Google rankings will go up.

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 6:37:39 PM   
    crumpets


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    ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
    They are taking the same risks that I am. I'm not their babysitter.

    Not true at all.
    You failed the reading comprehension test. Again.

    Everyone who has written to you is taking the risk that every time YOU log in, THEIR information is at risk.

    Notice something interesting here yet?

    What if those people wrote to ME instead of to YOU?

    SECOND-CHANCE READING COMPREHENSION 101 TEST:
  • Q: Whose entire collarspace mail is at greater risk of being published on the web?
    (a) Yours? (HINT: You apparently don't care for encryption.)
    (b) Mine?(HINT: I never log in without encryption.)
    (c) Both the same risk?

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 6:51:47 PM   
    crumpets


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
    See above.

    You totally fail to grasp the simple concept that if YOU used encryption, then they would be safer sending information to you than if you don't use encryption.
    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
    I would hope that anyone with any sense would be know to protect themselves.

    Again, you fail to understand that protection is a two-way street.
    If I use encryption to log in, and then I send a message to person1, and person1 uses encryption to log in, and sends me back a message, we're BOTH PROTECTING EACH OTHER!

    However, if I send a message to, say, YOU, and if you do NOT use encryption, then I am protecting your messages but you are not protecting mine.

    Do you grasp that simple concept of the responsibility for protection? Or not?

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
    b. you are implying that I am not a QUALITY woman, in which case, screw you.

    I have never bothered to look at your profile, so, I confess I have no idea if you're a man, a woman, or a gnat.

    I really don't know.
    All I know is what you wrote so far in this thread.

    So, I couldn't have been inferring you're not a quality woman because I don't even know who or what you are. I only know what you comprehend and what you write - and - see above - I can't even (yet) tell if you're a gnat or a real person from what you've comprehended to date.

    In fact, from the textspeak below, I clearly assumed you were a man, but I didn't look nor does it matter because you appear to be a gnat based on what you comprehend anyway.

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
    See should be 'c'.
    was should be 'wuz'
    the should be 'hte'
    wat should be 'wut'

    Heh heh ... fair enough.
    I'm lousy at textspeak!

    See? We are what we write.
    If I suck at writing textspeak, then I suck at writing textspeak.
    If you suck at reading comprehension, then you suck at reading comprehension.

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
    Christ on a cracker, if you are going to insult someone at least do it correctly. Otherwise, it kind of dampens the effect...

    Actually, my "insult" to you is merely that you can't seem to comprehend what this thread is actually about. That textspeak was merely an illustration, intended to drop down to your level, to sink it into your head.

    I failed.

    Please tell me you don't vote. Please!

    < Message edited by crumpets -- 1/24/2016 6:53:22 PM >

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 6:55:49 PM   
    PonyGroom


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    Status: offline     		Let's compare results with Fetlife, which uses SSL and loudly tells people the site is secure.

    Anyone can get an account on Fetlife using only an email address as a credential. Underage people access the site until challenged to show government ID. Law enforcement is present on the site. Inboxes are known to be insecure, read by mods from time to time and mined for info. While they prevent you from right-clicking on photos and easily saving them, there are many workarounds, and personal images are copied and posted onto Tumblr all the time. There is absolutely nothing safe or secure about the site. Security on Fetlife is entirely an illusion.

    maymay shredded their security and there is nothing they can do about it now. Sure, they banned him from the site. But he's made a number of tools that people use every day to unwittingly compromise their own security and the overall security of the site. They tried to get these tools deleted, they tried to get his site host to dump him, they tried to get his Twitter account revoked. He is still around and doing well. All of his tools are still available.

    Mircesu's "meatlist" was created long after maymay's heyday. The meatlist holds an index of profiles so you can search the site by age, sex, and location. This enables the very spam Fetlife says they sought to avoid: a determined man sending the same message to every woman he wants to send it to. Although many women changed their location to Antarctica and their age to 95, this has not helped them escape the indexing, because the index was made from data extracted from the site before they changed their profiles. On learning this, some women deleted their profiles and made a new one with an age of 95 and a location in Antarctica.

    The lesson we ought to take from this sort of thing is that any information we give to any social media web site will show up in surprising places and be used in ways we don't want, no matter what steps we take to protect it.

    The birth date I give to social media sites varies, and is never my actual birthday.

    I never post my home address, phone numbers, birthday, or real name on social media sites. I assume someday that info will go where I don't want it to go. Why do I assume that? Because I have been reading security blogs for many years, and have read about dozens of incidents involving tens of millions of accounts.

    My all time fave incident: Ashleigh Madison. The hackers exposed the site operators for the predatory liars they really are. Least fave incidents: US government personnel records and veterans records. Those hackers should be hung up by their thumbs.

    Admin here is almost completely honest with us. That's a huge plus compared with other sites.


    That said, I take every precaution recommended by my bank, when using their site.

    (in reply to PonyGroom)
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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 7:00:56 PM   
    Dvr22999874


    Posts: 2849
    Joined: 9/11/2008
    Status: offline     		I will give anybody who asks me, a name that is on one of my passports and that I will respond to. I will also tell them the area I live in and I will give them a phone number too but if they can find me with ANY of that information or hack into any of my private information, good luck to them and to quote this peewits favourite poet, "You're a better man than I am Gunga Dhin".

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 7:01:03 PM   
    crumpets


    Posts: 1614
    Joined: 11/5/2014
    From: South Bay (SF & Silicon Valley)
    Status: offline
    quote:

    ORIGINAL: PonyGroom
    Google announced some time ago that adding SSL to your site would improve the index scores of your pages.


    Thank you for adding technical value to the discussion!
    Official news on crawling and indexing sites for the Google index

    quote:


    Security is a top priority for Google. We invest a lot in making sure that our services use industry-leading security, like strong HTTPS encryption by default.
    ...
    Beyond our own stuff, we’re also working to make the Internet safer more broadly. A big part of that is making sure that websites people access from Google are secure.
    ...
    At Google I/O a few months ago, we called for “HTTPS everywhere” on the web.
    ...
    We’ve also seen more and more webmasters adopting HTTPS...
    ...
    For these reasons, over the past few months we’ve been running tests taking into account whether sites use secure, encrypted connections as a signal in our search ranking algorithms. We've seen positive results, so we're starting to use HTTPS as a ranking signal.
    ...
    ... over time, we may decide to strengthen it, because we’d like to encourage all website owners to switch from HTTP to HTTPS to keep everyone safe on the web.


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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 7:01:48 PM   
    PonyGroom


    Posts: 150
    Joined: 2/26/2006
    Status: offline     		To meet someone from here, or any social media site, I first give them my email address. That email address is all over the net, I think, and is no secret at all. Once I get an email from them, I send a phone number or we simply arrange a time and place to meet by emailing back and forth until we are set.

    When I first got started in meeting people, I had an email address with my local ISP. I soon found out how small the world is! I had to close that account because I had mixed BDSM and absolutely not BDSM communications on it, and the address and some of the message activity had got out onto the web. In 1995! I got a hotmail account for BDSM and a new ISP account for everything else. Eventually I got [email protected] - that server no longer hosts email accounts for kinky people. Sure was nice while it lasted.

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    RE: No site security concerns in real life - 1/24/2016 7:07:15 PM   
    crumpets


    Posts: 1614
    Joined: 11/5/2014
    From: South Bay (SF & Silicon Valley)
    Status: offline
    quote:

    ORIGINAL: mousekabob
    It's called CollarSpace email on the other side.
    ...If they're not gonna show or be late for a coffee meeting then they can email it there and I can check it. I can even set up my phone to notify me when someone emails me there! Nifty, huh?


    Ummm.... you do realize ... don't you .... that this is the absolutely WORST thing you can possibly do from a PRIVACY standpoint, don't you?

    Logging in, unprotected, from a cellphone or at a hotspot is sort of like having sex with twenty HIV positive dudes and then meeting up with the next person for sex, and telling them you practice safe sex.

    (in reply to mousekabob)
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