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CodeOfSilence -> Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/24/2016 7:53:55 AM)

Holy fuck, this is the most sickening thing I have read in a long time:

https://www.rt.com/news/329968-primates-australia-research-experiments/

The experiments are cruel in nature, with one test reportedly involving a baboon, which died after getting a kidney transplant from a pig.

Other procedures included marmosets being given a deliberate drug overdose and having their eyes removed and dissected.

Aren't we past this? We are at the point of maing kidneys in the laboratory from stem cells, who the hell are these assholes?




joinusitsfun -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/24/2016 7:58:56 AM)

The people's flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead,
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts' blood dyed its ev'ry fold.

Then raise the scarlet standard high.
Within its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.

Look 'round, the Frenchman loves its blaze,
The sturdy German chants its praise,
In Moscow's vaults its hymns are sung
Chicago swells the surging throng.

Then raise the scarlet standard high.
Within its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.

It waved above our infant might,
When all ahead seemed dark as night;
It witnessed many a deed and vow,
We must not change its colour now.

Then raise the scarlet standard high.
Within its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.

It well recalls the triumphs past,
It gives the hope of peace at last;
The banner bright, the symbol plain,
Of human right and human gain.

Then raise the scarlet standard high.
Within its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.

It suits today the weak and base,
Whose minds are fixed on pelf and place
To cringe before the rich man's frown,
And haul the sacred emblem down.

Then raise the scarlet standard high.
Within its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.

With heads uncovered swear we all
To bear it onward till we fall;
Come dungeons dark or gallows grim,
This song shall be our parting hymn.

Then raise the scarlet standard high.
Within its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.





BamaD -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/25/2016 9:10:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CodeOfSilence

Holy fuck, this is the most sickening thing I have read in a long time:

https://www.rt.com/news/329968-primates-australia-research-experiments/

The experiments are cruel in nature, with one test reportedly involving a baboon, which died after getting a kidney transplant from a pig.

Other procedures included marmosets being given a deliberate drug overdose and having their eyes removed and dissected.

Aren't we past this? We are at the point of maing kidneys in the laboratory from stem cells, who the hell are these assholes?

When I saw the name of the thread I was expecting something on the order of the Movie "The boys from Brazil" (I think that was the name of it) staring Greogory Peck where they made dozens of clones of Hitler.




kdsub -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/25/2016 10:11:15 AM)

THIS seems reasonable enough for me. There is a fine line here but my child comes first. If this research can save lives I am all for it. I do believe there needs to be oversight and only necessary experiments should be performed...Even then care should be taken to be as humane as possible with the animals.

Butch




smartsub10 -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/25/2016 11:52:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CodeOfSilence


Aren't we past this? We are at the point of maing kidneys in the laboratory from stem cells, who the hell are these assholes?


I would love to see documented proof of this. Please, share. I know millions of people waiting for kidneys worldwide would be very interested.




CodeOfSilence -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/26/2016 12:48:12 PM)

We are at the *point* of making it while we are certainly beyond the point of sticking pig kidneys into monkeys to "see what happens" like some fucking kid breaking your grandmothers gardengnomes to see what's inside of them. Also I'm sure someone, probably a crazy Russian with a daddy or uncle in the Communist Party of the Soviet Union poked inside some primate and tried to put in an organ there from a second animal. These people in Australia just kept doing it.

All "research" could potentially "save" your child. We could inject every known substance into every known animal and hope for a reaction that would be able to lead us somewhere. This research is on par with the 18th century levels of scientific inquiry and its a true shame that you would allow the honor of humanity to be continuously defiled like this.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 7:38:57 AM)

All life is of equal value. Those with superiority complexes trotting out if it save lives then " yes raping monkeys with toasters is allowed" drive me to disparity, and cheap chardonnay of bedwetting vintage..marvelous.

There is no definitive proof we are the most intelligent huwmans/animals that walk this planet, in a stomping fashion, in this moment in time, in all previous time past.
I can cite many examples can I be bothered with links or can I – oh och well for you lot ;)

Book of Enoch a blundering good read not my favbook but its up there…free on the internet
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home bested only by Khan and few people are familiar with space seed I am all introducing those scoundrels to the ways of the birch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_IV:_The_Voyage_Home
Star trek voyager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distant_Origin


I couldn't be bothered posting many video links (slave required for that) it simply takes too much time so here is one, perhaps mpre, where I pee my pants every time

Best Kirk Fight Moves - The Wall of Destruction
How to kiss a woman by Captain Kirk
is it safe - good book :) he wrote a sequel sometime later https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_Man_%28novel%29

g'kar talks to catherine about sigma 957

Babylon 5 Interrogating Mordin






Aylee -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 8:02:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

All life is of equal value.




No. Me and mine are worth more than a mosquito or a bed bug or a tuna or a cow or a . . . you get the idea.

All life may have value, but it is not equal.




kdsub -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 8:10:00 AM)

When your child come down with a terminal cancer that could have been cured through animal research...do you think you will change your mind?

Butch




Rule -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 10:50:03 AM)

Several people on here have demonstrated to have been born without a conscience.




Phydeaux -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 3:22:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

All life is of equal value. Those with superiority complexes trotting out if it save lives then " yes raping monkeys with toasters is allowed" drive me to disparity, and cheap chardonnay of bedwetting vintage..marvelous.



You're going for the churlish gibberish mnotter acolyte award?
quote:


There is no definitive proof we are the most intelligent huwmans/animals that walk this planet, in a stomping fashion, in this moment in time, in all previous time past.
I can cite many examples can I be bothered with links or can I – oh och well for you lot ;)

Book of Enoch a blundering good read not my favbook but its up there…free on the internet
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home bested only by Khan and few people are familiar with space seed I am all introducing those scoundrels to the ways of the birch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_IV:_The_Voyage_Home
Star trek voyager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distant_Origin


I couldn't be bothered posting many video links (slave required for that) it simply takes too much time so here is one, perhaps mpre, where I pee my pants every time

Best Kirk Fight Moves - The Wall of Destruction
How to kiss a woman by Captain Kirk
is it safe - good book :) he wrote a sequel sometime later https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_Man_%28novel%29

g'kar talks to catherine about sigma 957

Babylon 5 Interrogating Mordin





I simply must have more empathy, and realize there are a lot of people with mental illness and access to a computer.




Phydeaux -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 3:37:45 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CodeOfSilence

We are at the *point* of making it while we are certainly beyond the point of sticking pig kidneys into monkeys to "see what happens" like some fucking kid breaking your grandmothers gardengnomes to see what's inside of them. Also I'm sure someone, probably a crazy Russian with a daddy or uncle in the Communist Party of the Soviet Union poked inside some primate and tried to put in an organ there from a second animal. These people in Australia just kept doing it.

All "research" could potentially "save" your child. We could inject every known substance into every known animal and hope for a reaction that would be able to lead us somewhere. This research is on par with the 18th century levels of scientific inquiry and its a true shame that you would allow the honor of humanity to be continuously defiled like this.


Please feel free to not avail yourself of all the advances in medicine made via animal testing, since they so offend your sense of morality.
Of course, I expect your lifespan would be rather shortened.



No malaria vaccines for you.
No small pox
No anthrax vaccine
No rabies vaccine, or typhoid, or cholera or black plague, or beri beri, or polio, or rickets or measles or hepatitis or diptheria
or whopping cough


No vitamin C, no anaesthetics, no blood transfusions.

No corneal, or kidney or hip replacements no heart transplants.

No pace makers

No antipsychotic medication, no high blood pressure meds, no antidepressents
no anti -aids medicines.
no life support for preim
no chemotherapy for leukaemia
no mri's, no ct scans
no asthma medicine.

no insuln

Do you not get that stem cells were originall tested on mice, rats and rabbits?


Do you not get that almost every medical device, medicine or procedure is tested on animals for safety and efficacy before it is tested on humans?

So feel free to use 10th century medicine on yourself.



PS: if you want to suggest that prison inmates could be free to volunteer as medicine test subjects to reduce their prison sentences -I'm ok with that.




Phydeaux -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 3:38:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

Several people on here have demonstrated to have been born without a conscience.



Golden, rule. Golden.




Lucylastic -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 4:10:41 PM)

oh the fuxking irony




Wayward5oul -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 4:47:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
I simply must have more empathy, and realize there are a lot of people with mental illness and access to a computer.

Then there is always the chance that they escaped from a research lab themselves.




Aylee -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 5:50:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux



PS: if you want to suggest that prison inmates could be free to volunteer as medicine test subjects to reduce their prison sentences -I'm ok with that.


There are many reasons that prison inmates do not make good test subjects.




CodeOfSilence -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 6:26:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: CodeOfSilence

We are at the *point* of making it while we are certainly beyond the point of sticking pig kidneys into monkeys to "see what happens" like some fucking kid breaking your grandmothers gardengnomes to see what's inside of them. Also I'm sure someone, probably a crazy Russian with a daddy or uncle in the Communist Party of the Soviet Union poked inside some primate and tried to put in an organ there from a second animal. These people in Australia just kept doing it.

All "research" could potentially "save" your child. We could inject every known substance into every known animal and hope for a reaction that would be able to lead us somewhere. This research is on par with the 18th century levels of scientific inquiry and its a true shame that you would allow the honor of humanity to be continuously defiled like this.


Please feel free to not avail yourself of all the advances in medicine made via animal testing, since they so offend your sense of morality.
Of course, I expect your lifespan would be rather shortened.



No malaria vaccines for you.
No small pox
No anthrax vaccine
No rabies vaccine, or typhoid, or cholera or black plague, or beri beri, or polio, or rickets or measles or hepatitis or diptheria
or whopping cough


No vitamin C, no anaesthetics, no blood transfusions.

No corneal, or kidney or hip replacements no heart transplants.

No pace makers

No antipsychotic medication, no high blood pressure meds, no antidepressents
no anti -aids medicines.
no life support for preim
no chemotherapy for leukaemia
no mri's, no ct scans
no asthma medicine.

no insuln

Do you not get that stem cells were originall tested on mice, rats and rabbits?


Do you not get that almost every medical device, medicine or procedure is tested on animals for safety and efficacy before it is tested on humans?

So feel free to use 10th century medicine on yourself.



PS: if you want to suggest that prison inmates could be free to volunteer as medicine test subjects to reduce their prison sentences -I'm ok with that.



Who fucked you stupid today? I didn't object to Animal Testing, I objected to this Frankenstein shit being done in Australia in this day and age.
What you're discussing is some topic in your head that you haven't yet posted.




PandoraFoxxx -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 6:39:21 PM)

Name 5 viable reasons why moderately healthy, living humans do not make good medical test subjects.




Lucylastic -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 6:49:04 PM)

What makes you think they havent been?




Dvr22999874 -> RE: Mengele reborn and well in Australia? (1/27/2016 6:55:54 PM)

I think there are five good reasons in France at the moment..................they were being used as a trial for some new drug. One is dead already and it looks like the rest might go the same way soon




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