Termyn8or
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First of all note that this is not Cliven Bundy here, they have not sent in the navy Seals to get him as some here would advocate.
First rule of this shit though is you don't occupy government buildings. What is the exit strategy ? You BOMB government building, if that is your desire. He who kills and runs away lives to kill another day.
this is not Iraq where you got millions of warriors and not much government. Local college security forces could defeat most of these people who protest these days. Even with rubber bullets they killed four in Ohio.
It is nice that someone has the balls to stand up to the government, I just wish they had more brains. this whole fucking thing was pointless in the first place. What was the goal, to create a few martyrs ?
I guess I can understand somewhat. Those people are not used to the government treading on them at will. They believe this is a free country and are very discontent with how things are, and how they are getting worse. And I mean worse as in government getting its tentacles into every part of life. If anything moves, tax it. If it pollutes, tax it, if it doesn't pollute, tax it. If it doesn't move charge rentes. And no more competition for the big agra. No more competition for their buddies. It keeps coming and coming with no signs of slowing down, in fact the advance of tyranny is accelerating.
I have had exposure to people from other countries. People from Russia and Poland ask me "Where is the freedom ?". In Russia you do not need a fishing license, and once you qualify with a firearm you hunting license is good for life. Not like here where you have to pay the state of Montana thousands upon thousands of dollars just in case you hit something. And, in some of the more civilized countries fishing is simply illegal.
Bottom line is that the US government thinks it owns every blade of grass, as well as the fruits of your labor. They do not. As proven by a couple friends of mine you do not have to pay income tax. As proven by those with patented titles to land, you really don't have to pay property taxes. And, as proven by a friend, at considerable expense, if you actually buy a car and have the MSO, the state cannot take it. When they tow your car and you don't go and get it soon they dispose of it. Well my buddy with the MSO got towed and refused to go get it out. Note that he had bought the car new and paid cash. That car sat there until the day he died and then some.
Most of the rights you lose to the government are by contract. Like if I drive without a license they cannot charge me with not having insurance. If I build something without a permit in one of those anal jurisdictions and they order me to tear it down, all they can do is fine me. They could fine me a million dollars a day but they'll never see that money. I state, officially that they do not have jurisdiction over me. then they have to prove jurisdiction and it has been proven time and time again that lines on a map do not create, nor even define jurisdiction. For example if you are on probation in Cleveland, they say you can't drink or get high, and that means everywhere. How is that possible ? In fact, how can Julian Assange be wanted in the US when he has never fucking set foot here ?
So, learn a lesson from these people. Actually their strategy should have been to surround the building and not let anyone in or out. Made their own perimeter like some said the government should've. At least there is an exit strategy.
Thing is, until shit gets really bad, so that the boiling frog really cannot get used to it, all we can do is become an annoyance. A pain in the ass. That is what some people do in court, but there are better ways.
But it really is getting to the point where it is not going to happen in court. We got courts telling people they will be held in contempt if they mention the Constitution at trial. We got judges ruling summarily, I mean without even tinking about it, that doctors may not discuss the ramifications of poisoning by fracking fluids with their patients who have been poisoned by fracking fluids. The shit wrecks your kidneys and you end up on dialysis. They got a law to keep them from getting sued, like the Monsanto Protection Act but actually better.
People who know things are fed up with this shit. Every day, more and more get fucked over and the time will come when there will be enough. And we will have guns. And nobody is going up to government buildings for a standoff. Wait until they come out.
That is the future history of this country. If any.
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