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Lucylastic -> US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 3:19:14 PM)

Treasury head: US economy better now than when Obama took office


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/264205-treasury-head-us-economy-better-now-than-when-obama-took-office

The U.S. economy is in better shape now than it was when President Obama took office, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said Wednesday.

Seven years ago, the unemployment rate and deficits were higher, but "where we are now, we're seeing steady growth, we've seen enormous job creation over this period of time, we're seeing the unemployment rate around 5 percent, and we're seeing that growth in spite of the fact that there's a lot of headwinds from a slower global economy," he told Fox Business Network.

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Lew said the U.S. still has challenges, such as income inequality and deficits. But he said the country is in a good position to tackle its domestic and international challenges. One issue the Treasury secretary said he would like to work on business tax reform.

"We have a broken business tax code, and I think that's something that we have recognized for years and proposed tax reform, and Republicans have recognized for years," he said.

"I hope we can sit down and work together in a bipartisan basis to deal with this."

He said the corporate tax code has so many loopholes that the statutory rate is among the highest in the world. As a result, companies are undertaking maneuvers such as "inversions," in which companies move their legal addresses overseas.

Lew stressed that while Treasury has put out guidance to slow the pace of inversions, only legislation can stop them.

Lew said that "people shouldn't panic about Social Security" because it's 75 percent funded under the worst scenarios.

But he added that Social Security was never intended to be people's sole source of retirement income. He encouraged people to look into Treasury's myRA retirement savings program.

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has committed to considering legislation providing relief to Puerto Rico by March 31. Lew called for Puerto Rico's roughly $70 billion of debt to be restructured.

"Puerto Rico needs to sit down, it needs to work with all of the stakeholders to come up with a viable path forward so there can be an economic plan for the future," he said.


Also at http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2015/12/24/jack-lew-us-ending-year-well-positioned.html




MasterBrentC -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 4:12:23 PM)

It's amazing how the government gets so worked up over Puerto Rico ' s 70 billion dollar debt but no one gives a flying fuck about our 19 trillion dollar debt.




Lucylastic -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 4:13:53 PM)

I dont think paul ryan cares about the debt....




MasterBrentC -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 4:32:21 PM)

Considering it's more than doubled in the past 7 years since fuck face Obama was sworn in, you might want to blame him and not Ryan. Oh wait, that would require a dumbocrat to actually think. My bad.




bounty44 -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 4:46:29 PM)

you may be speaking in this particular instance, but in general, paul ryan spent years on the house budget committee continually railing about the debt and the deficit and was much castigated for people who apparently don't quite get math.

quote:

Less than a year ago, the House of Representatives passed a budget that took on our generation’s greatest domestic challenge: reforming and modernizing government to prevent an explosion of debt from crippling our nation and robbing our children of their future.

Absent reform, government programs designed in the middle of the 20th century cannot fulfill their promises in the 21st century. It is a mathematical and demographic impossibility. And we said so...

As shown in the nearby chart, our budget tackles this crisis head-on by cutting debt as a share of the economy by roughly 15% over the next decade, putting the nation’s finances on a path to balance, and paying off the debt. By contrast, the president’s budget pushes debt as a share of the economy even higher.


http://thenationaldebtclock.com/paul-ryan/





bounty44 -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 4:53:53 PM)

in a conversation a few years ago with sean Hannity (oh no, fox news!)

quote:

RYAN: Well, first off, ours does get to balance. If you have better economic growth, ours gets to balance pretty quickly. But if you look at the chart, to put it in perspective, for the last 40 years in America, the federal government has taken 20 cents out of every dollar made in America to run the federal government.

What this path that we are right now on, that the president is proposing says, by the time my kids are my age, let's take 40 cents out of every dollar made in America to pay for the federal government.

Then by the time my grandkids are raising their grandkids, we are taking 80 cents out of every dollar just to pay for this federal government at that time. No new programs, the current promises that that the government's currently making.

That's what it will cost because of the explosion of these entitlement programs. We are showing the country the path we are on today, doubles and then doubles again, over the course of our kids' and grandkids' lifetimes and our lifetimes. This is unsustainable.

http://paulryan.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=287508#sthash.Vy9K5cX3.dpuf




bounty44 -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 5:06:47 PM)

Obama called what George w. bush did concerning the debt/deficit, "unpatriotic."




AtUrCervix -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 5:17:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Treasury head: US economy better now than when Obama took office


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/264205-treasury-head-us-economy-better-now-than-when-obama-took-office

The U.S. economy is in better shape now than it was when President Obama took office, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said Wednesday.

Seven years ago, the unemployment rate and deficits were higher, but "where we are now, we're seeing steady growth, we've seen enormous job creation over this period of time, we're seeing the unemployment rate around 5 percent, and we're seeing that growth in spite of the fact that there's a lot of headwinds from a slower global economy," he told Fox Business Network.

ADVERTISEMENT

Lew said the U.S. still has challenges, such as income inequality and deficits. But he said the country is in a good position to tackle its domestic and international challenges. One issue the Treasury secretary said he would like to work on business tax reform.

"We have a broken business tax code, and I think that's something that we have recognized for years and proposed tax reform, and Republicans have recognized for years," he said.

"I hope we can sit down and work together in a bipartisan basis to deal with this."

He said the corporate tax code has so many loopholes that the statutory rate is among the highest in the world. As a result, companies are undertaking maneuvers such as "inversions," in which companies move their legal addresses overseas.

Lew stressed that while Treasury has put out guidance to slow the pace of inversions, only legislation can stop them.

Lew said that "people shouldn't panic about Social Security" because it's 75 percent funded under the worst scenarios.

But he added that Social Security was never intended to be people's sole source of retirement income. He encouraged people to look into Treasury's myRA retirement savings program.

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has committed to considering legislation providing relief to Puerto Rico by March 31. Lew called for Puerto Rico's roughly $70 billion of debt to be restructured.

"Puerto Rico needs to sit down, it needs to work with all of the stakeholders to come up with a viable path forward so there can be an economic plan for the future," he said.


Also at http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2015/12/24/jack-lew-us-ending-year-well-positioned.html


Read (something other than the interweb).




Lucylastic -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 5:59:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Treasury head: US economy better now than when Obama took office


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/264205-treasury-head-us-economy-better-now-than-when-obama-took-office

The U.S. economy is in better shape now than it was when President Obama took office, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said Wednesday.

Seven years ago, the unemployment rate and deficits were higher, but "where we are now, we're seeing steady growth, we've seen enormous job creation over this period of time, we're seeing the unemployment rate around 5 percent, and we're seeing that growth in spite of the fact that there's a lot of headwinds from a slower global economy," he told Fox Business Network.

ADVERTISEMENT

Lew said the U.S. still has challenges, such as income inequality and deficits. But he said the country is in a good position to tackle its domestic and international challenges. One issue the Treasury secretary said he would like to work on business tax reform.

"We have a broken business tax code, and I think that's something that we have recognized for years and proposed tax reform, and Republicans have recognized for years," he said.

"I hope we can sit down and work together in a bipartisan basis to deal with this."

He said the corporate tax code has so many loopholes that the statutory rate is among the highest in the world. As a result, companies are undertaking maneuvers such as "inversions," in which companies move their legal addresses overseas.

Lew stressed that while Treasury has put out guidance to slow the pace of inversions, only legislation can stop them.

Lew said that "people shouldn't panic about Social Security" because it's 75 percent funded under the worst scenarios.

But he added that Social Security was never intended to be people's sole source of retirement income. He encouraged people to look into Treasury's myRA retirement savings program.

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has committed to considering legislation providing relief to Puerto Rico by March 31. Lew called for Puerto Rico's roughly $70 billion of debt to be restructured.

"Puerto Rico needs to sit down, it needs to work with all of the stakeholders to come up with a viable path forward so there can be an economic plan for the future," he said.


Also at http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2015/12/24/jack-lew-us-ending-year-well-positioned.html


Read (something other than the interweb).

LOL AHuh, ok you cant fudge it so you blame the messenger:)
bless your weeny heart




Lucylastic -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 6:02:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

Obama called what George w. bush did concerning the debt/deficit, "unpatriotic."

What bush did was treasonous, not just unpatriotic, and not just regarding the debt, or the deficit....
Butoooh Im sorry, bush is a saint...
What was the jobless rate in jan 2009????
WHat is it today
Even using U^ figures its less than half what it was.
Recovery is slow, especially with the christofascists on the right





Phydeaux -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 7:32:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

Obama called what George w. bush did concerning the debt/deficit, "unpatriotic."

What bush did was treasonous, not just unpatriotic, and not just regarding the debt, or the deficit....
Butoooh Im sorry, bush is a saint...
What was the jobless rate in jan 2009????
WHat is it today
Even using U^ figures its less than half what it was.
Recovery is slow, especially with the christofascists on the right




Bush's largest deficit was 489 billion. Obamas largest deficit was 1.2 trillion.

You claim the economy is great - and yet our labor force participation rate is the lowest its been in 40 years. GDP growth was .7% and it will be restated downward. Wage inequality is the greatest its ever been. ...




Lucylastic -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/5/2016 7:34:06 PM)

oh dear, whooosh...




joether -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/6/2016 6:34:23 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC

It's amazing how the government gets so worked up over Puerto Rico ' s 70 billion dollar debt but no one gives a flying fuck about our 19 trillion dollar debt.


Actually there are many people that are pretty concern about the national debt. Its the 'How do we deal with it?' that is the problem:

Republicans: Talk on other issues, while reducing revenue that could help pay it off, and hope no one notices.

Democrats: Raise taxes that actually are designed to reduce the debt like one would pay off a mortgage. Would take 15 to 20 years. Its the raising of taxes no one likes to talk about.

Yet, we could deal with the problem now with a small raise in everyone's taxes. Or eight to twelve years later for a bigger sum. The intelligent and wise decision would be to raise the taxes now.

Since you like to bash Democrats and blame them for the debt, perhaps alittle history lesson is needed for you:

Back in G. W. Bush's first term in office, he and the Republican controlled Congress gave a series of five tax reductions. Three of them aimed at everyone and two aimed at the top 1%. The result turned the federal budget's projected income from $440 billion surplus to the negatives within one year. That was only half of the problem. The other half came when Republicans tried to reduce the federal budget. They tried to destroy the Democrat's 'Sacred Cows'; as expected, the Democrats resisted. The Republicans were intentionally not trying to reduce their own 'sacred cows' on the budget at the same time. This resulted in an ever growing national deficit on the budget. How did we pay for it? We didn't. It was just added onto the national debt. Eight full years of G. W. Bush's administration and those 'fiscal conservatives' in Congress.

If they were ACTUAL 'fiscally conservatives' they would have secured the budget reductions AHEAD of the reduction in taxes. That would have been the intelligent and wise action. But Republicans are not often accused of being intelligent or wise!

During President Obama's time in office, the federal deficit has been reduced to under $200 billion (less than that I think). All the while dealing with a recession that looked like it was going to turn into a depression far greater than the 1930's back in 2008-2009. And under absolute and total opposition from the Republican Party (you know, the political party that got us in this financial mess in the first place?).

Conservatives bitch about Obama's economy with its low taxes all the while wishing for Regan's economy (with its high taxes). It really is disturbing we allow conservatives to even vote given their problems understanding reality.




joether -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/6/2016 6:48:01 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

you may be speaking in this particular instance, but in general, paul ryan spent years on the house budget committee continually railing about the debt and the deficit and was much castigated for people who apparently don't quite get math.

quote:

Less than a year ago, the House of Representatives passed a budget that took on our generation’s greatest domestic challenge: reforming and modernizing government to prevent an explosion of debt from crippling our nation and robbing our children of their future.

Absent reform, government programs designed in the middle of the 20th century cannot fulfill their promises in the 21st century. It is a mathematical and demographic impossibility. And we said so...

As shown in the nearby chart, our budget tackles this crisis head-on by cutting debt as a share of the economy by roughly 15% over the next decade, putting the nation’s finances on a path to balance, and paying off the debt. By contrast, the president’s budget pushes debt as a share of the economy even higher.


http://thenationaldebtclock.com/paul-ryan/




Yes the Republican 'budget' is to reduce spending and reduce taxes; thereby the debt will magically be reduced thanks to millions of conservative 'christians' praying to the God of Capitalism and Greed.

Hasn't worked yet.....

Mr. Ryan is not an idiot. He knows the only way to deal with that issue is to raise taxes. The money that is raised, applies only to burning down the debt. The bill to create this process would have to be structured as to prevent future sessions of Congress from tampering with it, or diverting the funds to other projects. It would also require Congress not to add to that debt, regardless of political presence in either the White House or Congress. Yet, Mr. Ryan will not pursue this course of sensible action because the people whom elected him to office do not care about the whole of the United States; just themselves (were being selfish is a virtue to them!).

Him, nor any Republican/Tea Party flunky would be able to take the required steps to deal with the debt. It'll take a Democratically controlled Congress and White House to place the nation on the right direction. Since their voters are often more intelligent, educated, and liberal minded to understand the 'pros' and 'cons' of taking action and not taking action.




CreativeDominant -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/6/2016 7:19:53 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

you may be speaking in this particular instance, but in general, paul ryan spent years on the house budget committee continually railing about the debt and the deficit and was much castigated for people who apparently don't quite get math.

quote:

Less than a year ago, the House of Representatives passed a budget that took on our generation’s greatest domestic challenge: reforming and modernizing government to prevent an explosion of debt from crippling our nation and robbing our children of their future.

Absent reform, government programs designed in the middle of the 20th century cannot fulfill their promises in the 21st century. It is a mathematical and demographic impossibility. And we said so...

As shown in the nearby chart, our budget tackles this crisis head-on by cutting debt as a share of the economy by roughly 15% over the next decade, putting the nation’s finances on a path to balance, and paying off the debt. By contrast, the president’s budget pushes debt as a share of the economy even higher.


http://thenationaldebtclock.com/paul-ryan/




Yes the Republican 'budget' is to reduce spending and reduce taxes; thereby the debt will magically be reduced thanks to millions of conservative 'christians' praying to the God of Capitalism and Greed.

Hasn't worked yet.....

Mr. Ryan is not an idiot. He knows the only way to deal with that issue is to raise taxes. The money that is raised, applies only to burning down the debt. The bill to create this process would have to be structured as to prevent future sessions of Congress from tampering with it, or diverting the funds to other projects. It would also require Congress not to add to that debt, regardless of political presence in either the White House or Congress. Yet, Mr. Ryan will not pursue this course of sensible action because the people whom elected him to office do not care about the whole of the United States; just themselves (were being selfish is a virtue to them!).

Him, nor any Republican/Tea Party flunky would be able to take the required steps to deal with the debt. It'll take a Democratically controlled Congress and White House to place the nation on the right direction. Since their voters are often more intelligent, educated, and liberal minded to understand the 'pros' and 'cons' of taking action and not taking action.
Their voters? You mean the welfare kings and queens? The perpetual victims' groups?? The fast food workers and Was-Mart workers constantly clamoring for a higher wage for putting neat on a pre-buttered bun or stacking shelves? The union members slavishly paying dues so that the union leaders can feed money to the Dims?
That group of intelligent voters?




mnottertail -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/6/2016 8:43:44 AM)

No, I think he is talking about the nutsuckers.

You know, give away all the hard earned taxpayer money to corporations.
give away the public lands of the citizenry to corporations.
give away our treasure to the corporations to get out of the country.
borrow money and spend money like drunken sailors.
enslave the citizenry to special interest groups and millionaires, to their lasting detriment?

You mean that group of intelligent voters?





WickedsDesire -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/6/2016 9:51:36 AM)

@MasterBrentC It's amazing how the government gets so worked up over Puerto Rico ' s 70 billion dollar debt but no one gives a flying fuck about our 19 trillion dollar debt.

Fine words and to the point and they made me laugh, and weep in the inside - I think you also go onto say the deficit doubled under MadRedObama - happy to take your word for it. I will point in it would not have mattered who came into power it would still have went up, personally I think more with your other party. Quantitative easing is another fine word but truly nefariousness in reality as it starts at the top of the pyramid of sinners and never works its way down to us mere plebs.

Corporate accounting is the stuff of shenanigans as is tax avoidance - been going in for years,

So I will reword the article

People of America - everything is better than hunky dory- you are in safe hands feel at ease and at one.
Invade Puerto Rico - the money stuffing bastards - to be fair you lot haven't invaded anyone for a few weeks now
Sleekit bitchy comment about All claimants of social security, which amounts to fuk all of our national debt, are scrounging bastards who deserve to die all alone, or sent to the forest to forage for wilde haggis and never seen again- you lot have haggis roaming your lands - right! For although we just stated bollocks about everything being fine, it would be euphoria if it wernt for that country we cannot find on the map and scrounging bastards
Signed a mad evil kunt

I think I have the gist of politics

Now a good tv series is in the loop hmm you remade it as VEEP





MrRodgers -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/6/2016 9:53:31 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC

Considering it's more than doubled in the past 7 years since fuck face Obama was sworn in, you might want to blame him and not Ryan. Oh wait, that would require a dumbocrat to actually think. My bad.

Well considering that W both totaled the car and burnt the house down, you know it costs money not to have to ride the bus and live in a tent. I know...I know. Better we would have had a couple more huge tax cuts and maybe a couple more big wars. But hey...can't have everything.

I am thinking though that if we elect Trump, or Cruz or.....? We could have more of those tax cuts and maybe, just maybe...those wars too.




MrRodgers -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/6/2016 10:03:41 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

Obama called what George w. bush did concerning the debt/deficit, "unpatriotic."

What bush did was treasonous, not just unpatriotic, and not just regarding the debt, or the deficit....
Butoooh Im sorry, bush is a saint...
What was the jobless rate in jan 2009????
WHat is it today
Even using U^ figures its less than half what it was.
Recovery is slow, especially with the christofascists on the right




Bush's largest deficit was 489 billion. Obamas largest deficit was 1.2 trillion.

You claim the economy is great - and yet our labor force participation rate is the lowest its been in 40 years. GDP growth was .7% and it will be restated downward. Wage inequality is the greatest its ever been. ...

Bush's last budget was $1.4 trillion in deficit, had the worst 2 term record for job creation on record. The worker participation rate is down due to the boomers starting to retire and would have hit any president. Wage inequality is perpetuated by a capital favoring tax code and a serious lack of a real incentive driven corporate pay regime.

In view of what was left to Obama, the economic demographics and the extreme intransigence of a repub congress, Obama has done remarkably well.




MasterBrentC -> RE: US economy better now than when Obama took office (2/6/2016 10:05:14 AM)

Mr.Rogers, if you knew anything at all about history, you would know that tax cuts RAISE revenue rather than decrease it. President Reagan knew this and proved it. President Bush knew this and proved it. And President John Kennedy knew this and proved it. Why are dumbocrats so blind to the truth and simple facts?




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