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BamaD -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/21/2016 8:09:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

The sooner Obama picks a nominee the better:)
BTW< Cruz wont be going to Scalias funeral either, and he clerked for the man....
LMAO so much scaremongering and paranoia bounty.

Actually...Ted Cruz did step off the campaign trail to attend.


There you go again injecting facts and disrupting a perfectly good rant.




Lucylastic -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/21/2016 9:42:20 AM)

That was the status at the time I posted it, cd only posted after the event...
derp




BamaD -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/21/2016 9:50:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

That was the status at the time I posted it, cd only posted after the event...
derp

Your source was wrong.




Lucylastic -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/21/2016 9:52:27 AM)

Apparently. Amazing deduction there sherlock




BamaD -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/21/2016 10:26:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Apparently. Amazing deduction there sherlock

It didn't display my whole post, I also stated that these things happen, but if your snark makes you feel good have fun.

Who said
I didnt mean to press all your buttons, Only the "mute" one ?




vincentML -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/22/2016 3:24:15 AM)

FR

Another perspective on Scalia:

Antonin Scalia, who died this month, after nearly three decades on the Supreme Court, devoted his professional life to making the United States a less fair, less tolerant, and less admirable democracy. Fortunately, he mostly failed. Belligerent with his colleagues, dismissive of his critics, nostalgic for a world where outsiders knew their place and stayed there, Scalia represents a perfect model for everything that President Obama should avoid in a successor. The great Justices of the Supreme Court have always looked forward; their words both anticipated and helped shape the nation that the United States was becoming. Chief Justice John Marshall read the new Constitution to allow for a vibrant and progressive federal government. Louis Brandeis understood the need for that government to regulate an industrializing economy. Earl Warren saw that segregation was poison in the modern world. Scalia, in contrast, looked backward.

His revulsion toward homosexuality, a touchstone of his world view, appeared straight out of his sheltered, nineteen-forties boyhood. When, in 2003, the Court ruled that gay people could no longer be thrown in prison for having consensual sex, Scalia dissented, and wrote, “Today’s opinion is the product of a Court, which is the product of a law-profession culture, that has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda, by which I mean the agenda promoted by some homosexual activists directed at eliminating the moral opprobrium that has traditionally attached to homosexual conduct.” He went on, “Many Americans do not want persons who openly engage in homosexual conduct as partners in their business, as scoutmasters for their children, as teachers in their children’s schools, or as boarders in their home. They view this as protecting themselves and their families from a life style that they believe to be immoral and destructive.”


So, fuck him. Let him stay dead. Obama was justified in not attending the high mass funeral.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/02/29/antonin-scalia-looking-backward




MasterBrentC -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/22/2016 5:12:00 AM)

I've tried discussing different points with people on the left, but to be totally honest, no matter how hard I try I just can't get my I.Q. as low as yours. Have a great day.




mnottertail -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/22/2016 7:26:20 AM)

Thanks for the heads up, you factless, pointless imbecile.




BamaD -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/22/2016 9:09:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

FR

Another perspective on Scalia:

Antonin Scalia, who died this month, after nearly three decades on the Supreme Court, devoted his professional life to making the United States a less fair, less tolerant, and less admirable democracy. Fortunately, he mostly failed. Belligerent with his colleagues, dismissive of his critics, nostalgic for a world where outsiders knew their place and stayed there, Scalia represents a perfect model for everything that President Obama should avoid in a successor. The great Justices of the Supreme Court have always looked forward; their words both anticipated and helped shape the nation that the United States was becoming. Chief Justice John Marshall read the new Constitution to allow for a vibrant and progressive federal government. Louis Brandeis understood the need for that government to regulate an industrializing economy. Earl Warren saw that segregation was poison in the modern world. Scalia, in contrast, looked backward.

His revulsion toward homosexuality, a touchstone of his world view, appeared straight out of his sheltered, nineteen-forties boyhood. When, in 2003, the Court ruled that gay people could no longer be thrown in prison for having consensual sex, Scalia dissented, and wrote, “Today’s opinion is the product of a Court, which is the product of a law-profession culture, that has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda, by which I mean the agenda promoted by some homosexual activists directed at eliminating the moral opprobrium that has traditionally attached to homosexual conduct.” He went on, “Many Americans do not want persons who openly engage in homosexual conduct as partners in their business, as scoutmasters for their children, as teachers in their children’s schools, or as boarders in their home. They view this as protecting themselves and their families from a life style that they believe to be immoral and destructive.”


So, fuck him. Let him stay dead. Obama was justified in not attending the high mass funeral.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/02/29/antonin-scalia-looking-backward


What a wonderfull post, trashing a man with the lies of his enemies (note I did not say your lies) to note his passing.




DaddySatyr -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/22/2016 11:20:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

So, fuck him. Let him stay dead. Obama was justified in not attending the high mass funeral.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/02/29/antonin-scalia-looking-backward



Unlike my friend, Bama, I believe these words belong to you, Vincent?

I'm asking, but if I'm wrong, I will make a public apology.



Michael




vincentML -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/24/2016 12:56:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

So, fuck him. Let him stay dead. Obama was justified in not attending the high mass funeral.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/02/29/antonin-scalia-looking-backward



Unlike my friend, Bama, I believe these words belong to you, Vincent?

I'm asking, but if I'm wrong, I will make a public apology.



Michael


I stand by my words, Michael.




BamaD -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/24/2016 3:18:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

So, fuck him. Let him stay dead. Obama was justified in not attending the high mass funeral.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/02/29/antonin-scalia-looking-backward



Unlike my friend, Bama, I believe these words belong to you, Vincent?

I'm asking, but if I'm wrong, I will make a public apology.



Michael


I stand by my words, Michael.

Sounds like you have accepted lies and and come to a unfairly harsh judgement based on them.




DaddySatyr -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/24/2016 5:55:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

I stand by my words, Michael.



Then, here comes your apology (public, like I promised).

I mis-judged you. I thought you were different than the average PPL denizens of this place. I was wrong. ¡Adios!



Michael




Musicmystery -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/24/2016 8:09:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

If Obama was smart (which is questionable) he'd nominate Sri Srinivasan. But my guess is Sri isn't progressive enough for this President.

If rob weren't so bizarrely snarky, I'd be agreeing with him.

But he's right about nominating Srinivasan. He's moderate, already confirmed 97-0 once.

Of course, that's why the Republican Senate won't hold the hearing -- they'd look as ridiculous as they are being.




dcnovice -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/24/2016 8:32:43 PM)

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What a wonderfull post, trashing a man with the lies of his enemies (note I did not say your lies) to note his passing.

Which sentences were lies?




DOM68005 -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/24/2016 10:44:33 PM)

Should the President make a nomination? He has a duty to do so.
Who? I have no clue. I have yet to meet a judge that does not legislate when the mood suits him/her.
Once upon a time, there was a US Supreme Court Judge who said in arguments the US Constitution is unconstitutional.
My Dad used to talk about it decades ago
I Googled and found other examples.

Now we have a bunch of adult children running the US Senate saying they do not want to play ball by the rules they pledged to defend by oath.
I say that despite the Democrats played the same game back in 2007.
Sen Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said in 2007 that President George W. Bush shouldn’t get to pick any more Supreme Court justices because Schumer was afraid the bench leaned too far Right. Schumer made this remark a whole 19 months before the next president was inaugurated.
Then-Senator Barack Obama said in 2006 that he supported the Democratic-led filibuster to stop Justice Samuel Alito from making it to the Supreme Court.

Personally, I wish they would do their duty. There is nothing saying they have to rubberstamp whoever the President nominates. But they do have a duty to carry out due process.
This has been happening on both sides all too long and our courts have suffered lacking speedy trials as a result.
NO PARTY has clean hands in these cases, but it is past time to grow up.

I have zero faith in the US Supreme court sticking to the US Constitution. They have collectively legislated all too often.
But it is the system we have and should insist the process proceed in due course.
Would I nominate the same type of candidate as President Obama? Doubtful, but the same can be said of those put up by previous Presidents of both parties.




Musicmystery -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/25/2016 5:13:58 AM)

The difference is, the Democrats then went ahead and did their duty.

The nation shouldn't be on pause for a year while one of the three branches of government tries to make it two branches by forcing their will through refusing to play.




vincentML -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/25/2016 6:08:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

I stand by my words, Michael.



Then, here comes your apology (public, like I promised).

I mis-judged you. I thought you were different than the average PPL denizens of this place. I was wrong. ¡Adios!



Michael


Sometimes it is necessary to leave political correctness outside, Michael. Partisanship does not stop at the cemetery gate. Speak no ill of the dead? I do not buy that for people with authority and power. Death does not cancel the 'evils' they performed during their lives.




Lucylastic -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/25/2016 6:53:31 AM)

Mandela didnt get the same respect:)

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4597956




Phydeaux -> RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY? IF SO, WHO? (2/26/2016 8:22:31 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DOM68005

Should the President make a nomination? He has a duty to do so.
Who? I have no clue. I have yet to meet a judge that does not legislate when the mood suits him/her.
Once upon a time, there was a US Supreme Court Judge who said in arguments the US Constitution is unconstitutional.
My Dad used to talk about it decades ago
I Googled and found other examples.

Now we have a bunch of adult children running the US Senate saying they do not want to play ball by the rules they pledged to defend by oath.
I say that despite the Democrats played the same game back in 2007.
Sen Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said in 2007 that President George W. Bush shouldn’t get to pick any more Supreme Court justices because Schumer was afraid the bench leaned too far Right. Schumer made this remark a whole 19 months before the next president was inaugurated.
Then-Senator Barack Obama said in 2006 that he supported the Democratic-led filibuster to stop Justice Samuel Alito from making it to the Supreme Court.

Personally, I wish they would do their duty. There is nothing saying they have to rubberstamp whoever the President nominates. But they do have a duty to carry out due process.
This has been happening on both sides all too long and our courts have suffered lacking speedy trials as a result.
NO PARTY has clean hands in these cases, but it is past time to grow up.

I have zero faith in the US Supreme court sticking to the US Constitution. They have collectively legislated all too often.
But it is the system we have and should insist the process proceed in due course.
Would I nominate the same type of candidate as President Obama? Doubtful, but the same can be said of those put up by previous Presidents of both parties.



Oh please. He has a "duty" to nominate someone eh?
So what happened to the "duty" to nominate an inspector general for the state department - conveniently vacate for 1989 days - ie more than the entire tenure of Ms. Crook, er Clinton.

Eventually, he'll nominate. The fact that he considered Sandoval was interesting. The fact that Sandoval declined was even more interesting. Says a lot about his read of the upcoming election and his read of his prospects in the senate.





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