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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/18/2016 8:31:52 PM   
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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/18/2016 8:35:01 PM   
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"Antidepressants aren't the answer for everyone. OP obviously knows that option and is looking for other ideas. I would try exercise, avoiding alcohol (a depressant), eating clean, getting out into nature every day, and I personally would spend as much time with animals as I could"

I agree with this statement completely.

OP) if you cannot get of your funk, seek help. Only a Dr can really make suggestions as far as meds. IMO) try not to go there. Meaning, try to allow yourself time to get over what ever you are feeling on your own.

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I'm not going to fuck around with namby pamby stuff here. Go get on medication. Make an appointment instead of fucking around on here. Get off the internet now and go get the persctiption and don't get back on the here until you're on the stuff.


Antidepressants aren't the answer for everyone. OP obviously knows that option and is looking for other ideas. I would try exercise, avoiding alcohol (a depressant), eating clean, getting out into nature every day, and I personally would spend as much time with animals as I could.

I would also look at whether you are really depressed or something else, like sad. Sometimes we feel bad because something bad happened and whatever you're feeling is valid, not a sign of a problem. I would look for the heart of it, like Ron said.



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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/18/2016 8:38:50 PM   
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SFP, if you are already on a low dose of anti-depressants, it might be time to consider that the dose isn't high enough. You do know that some of that is guesswork, right? In most cases, they low ball it so they don't over medicate you. It's not unusual to have to have the medication adjusted. An anti-depressant is basically a way to get your brain to create the right amount of chemicals. If the anti-depressant isn't enough, the chemicals produced aren't enough, and you don't have that even keel that you're supposed to have.

If you are female, this might be a little harder to determine this time of year because if you are short on vitamin D3/sunlight, it's going to produce the same dilemma. Even if that's not the problem, there are some amazing links in the Health and Safety section about this whole thing. They might be worth reading.


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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/18/2016 8:50:50 PM   
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getting a full spectrum happy light can help your body make vit d and doint it for 30 min in the morning helps keep you mood up

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/18/2016 10:32:23 PM   
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I'm climbing out of a bad one myself.

Doing more house work has helped, so has sanding and painting and sanding and re-painting new panels to cat proof some areas of my home. The wood was boring, and now it's...lovely. We're painting them with pecan gloss polyurethane.

Getting back on my daily multi vitamin, taking my D3, and Vitamin C pills helped too. It's a rare day when sunshine gets to touch my skin and I dislike drinking milk, so I try to remember to take D3 at least several times per year for maybe a month at a time.

My eating these past months had been awful. Mostly grains and poor quality protein (bologna anybody?) and the rare canned veggie. I bought decent meat this month, cut back on grains, and bought fresh fruits and fresh veggies. To get myself to eat more raw veggies, I bought a bag of mixed chocolates (the kind given out for Halloween) and told my son we can have a chocolate or two IF we've eaten some raw veggies that day. A salad every day these past two weeks is making me feel significantly better. (I'm missing the parboiled rice served with cinnamon and warm milk though, and the pastas.) What I eat can affect how I feel, as well as my energy level.

Spending money. Deciding on a set amount to spend for fun and then searching three sites to find out where I can get the best deal. And then the happy anticipation of waiting and waiting for our new stuff to come in the mail. From one site the stuff is very cheap, the shipping extremely low cost, but it takes 2-5 weeks to arrive. Yesterday I got four of my rings in the mail and I've been looking at my new pretties all day and it makes me smile. Each ring cost me just $1 each, plus another $1 each for shipping... Oh, and my (two) $19 each (plus $6 each for shipping) violet wands arrived too. I needed some fun to bring balance into my life, and if this means I won't be able to save up for a new computer in time and have to be offline for several months, oh well...I'll find something else to do.

Too many things were upsetting me all at the same time, so I stepped away from the computer (except for letting myself leave one or two posts per day, maximum, and letting some mail wait)...because I became so oversensitive that small things started triggering me into downward spirals. I have real time drama I'm dealing with, and real time threats from an asshat. Too much on my plate right now and more and more stuff kept happening. My refrigerator died. Our oven died. One of my furbabies died. Someone decided to keep my floggers and stuff that would cost me around five to six hundred to replace. Lots of other stuff happening too and I was overloaded...and stepped away from the keyboard. (Yay for stepping away from the keyboard.)

I'm deciding to turn back to hobbies I left behind and I've sent off for a 152 count Crayola box of crayons, all in different colors. I've got my eye on a set of 72 different colors of coloring pencils (will buy next month, as fun money is all gone for this month). I bought one of those adult coloring books that are showing up at Sams and Walmart that's for helping people to cut back on stress (no pencils yet though), and I bought acrylic paints and some flat canvasses. Sometimes we leave too much of ourselves behind and need to reconnect by rolling up sleeves and using our hands to build or make something. You did this in a more practical way than I'm choosing to do but...tonight it was just FUN to draw something with crayons and hear my (adult) son say "Wow mom!"

I've gotten more sleep. Went from 7 hours per night to 9 or 10 and I think it's helping.

Depressing, looooong phone calls full of energy suckage stopped for a week too, because Frontier had something goofed up in their building and made my home phone unusable (though the internet still worked). It was hugely liberating not to have to be there for friends and family who are going through their own hells and need someone to be strong for them. It was almost as good as going camping and being unreachable. (Yes, the neighbors knocked at my door because their daily phone calls always met with a busy signal. BUT...it was freezing cold outside and talking only lasted for a few minutes. Yay!)

What else has worked for me? Finding a decent day to meet up with my bottom. THAT really helped reset my brain chemistry. (We had to skip last month.)

Instead of thinking of all the things I wish I could change but can't, I'm focusing on finding as many ways as I can to create genuine happy thoughts. Things to balance out all the cr*p life throws at me. I'm being reasonable about this though.

I've also borrowed a friend's former Daddy type. For almost the past year. It's part time headspace, nonsexual, no "scenes", just...headspace, energy. It's better than talking to a diary. (This is the same family of friends we went to New York City with late last year.) Basically, I have a friend who is not vanilla, who won't advise me about anything unless I ask him to, and I feel it's a no strings thing other than friendship. They're going to visit me again this March, and if I want to hang out while wearing a cosplay type hat, nobody is going to send me waves of disapproval.

What I'm saying in that last part is...some friends and family can add to our stress. Wind us up beyond all reason and there's nothing we can do to put a stop to this other than shutting them out of our lives completely. (Which most of the time I'm not willing to do.) In times of high stress and deep depression, I can't let these people see how overloaded I am because they're not going to understand, unless they have PTSD and panic disorder. They're not going to be helpful and my family is not going to respect my boundaries. Yes, my darling sister also phoned this week and she's pushy about her religious beliefs. (Which is funny considering that we're both Christians.) It sent me into a death spiral of resentment and depression (BUT...I did NOT reach through the phone to wring her neck).

I've also found out that watching too many murder/death/kill type shows on Netflix messes up my brain chemistry. My son loves to watch crime shows one after another until I want to scream and/or think that the whole world is so beyond effed up. I had him play video games instead while I took over the tv and watched animal documentaries...yes, and even ones about the ocean, deserts, Antarctica, blah blah blah. (If something died it's because another animal with babies needs to eat and I can deal with that.)

I can't have a zen garden in my home because my cats would use it as a litter box, so...I watch documentaries that talk about the evolution of coral reef polyps and algae and krill, and how water trickles down from mountains to flood plains on Africa, etc. Nothing triggers my adrenaline on these shows. I hate adrenaline.

Okay, this is my post for the day.

I need to get offline, look at the pretty chocolates in a jar (they're pretty, and I already ate mine for the day), watch some peaceful type documentary, take my BP meds and my Dexilant stomach meds, and go to bed. I'm going to run my violet wand for a while to find out (eventually) what it does for my complexion and hair follicles (okay, and to feel the nice pleasant zaps and look at the pretty red spots it leaves on my arm when I crank it up high), and then I'll go to bed. Tomorrow I'm going to wake up and try to beat my son to the mailbox so I can see if any more stuff has arrived in the mail.

This is how I'm dealing with deep, unexpected (I know I should have been, but each time when it hits me especially hard it always takes me by surprise) depression. Years ago, before I was so disabled I used to just work it off, going two to three days in a working frenzy before finally falling to sleep. I think I like this way better.



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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/19/2016 3:09:18 AM   
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The dreaded curse of depression. That's definitely what it feels like, a curse.
I have struggled with bouts of it since adolescence. I came from parents who said "gotta be tougher" "pull yourself together" " it's all In your head" like duh!!!! Yeah it's in my head lol. They definitely didn't believe in treatment and it was never addressed. i love them, but they are very old school, and barely will take an aspirin, and are ignorant and stubborn in a lot of their thinking.
If this is a reoccurring thing in your life, please see a doctor. It took 4 tries before they found a med that worked for me too. When it did was it was like night and day. As others have said too, it sometimes needs adjusted overtime. If you have lots of stress going on, let me warn you it's no magic pill either unfortunately. In my case talking about it really didn't help, it just kept it present in my mind and wasn't the answer. But therapy might help you too. ?? Different things work for different people.
This I do understand, once your in the middle of it, you may know what you need to do, but your brain feels foggy and it affects you physically too. Aches, pains, fatigue. It's like your weighed down with a ball and chain and the simplest tasks are exhausting. It seems impossible to move forward, but you have to take that first tiny step and stick with it. It usually takes me 2 weeks of will power to shake it off. I recently made the mistake of not sticking to my program and found myself in depression again. I have just started working on everything again. Here's what works for and what was mentioned by other posters.

1)fresh air and sunlight!! Everyday Even if it's just for a short time.
2)exercise. I walk a mile everyday and use light weights later. But just exercise even if it just means 10 squats and 10 jumping jacks. Start small anything is better then nothing.
3) eat clean, mainly protein and veggies only. Simple foods. You will be amazed over time how much better you will feel. Very little sugar or breads.
4) multi vitamin.
5) watch comedies, do something very nice for yourself.
6) cut complainers, naggers, and negative people out of your life. Sure you want to be a good friend, a good family member but until you feel better do it for yourself. It's depressing to hear problem after problem when you can't do anything for them anyway. If that's all they are contributing is bitching etc. cut them out. You need as much positive as you can right now.
7) try to do one small task, you put off, and bask in accomplishment of it. You will feel better.
It might take two to three weeks of pulling from next to nothing of willpower to start to feel the difference but you will be like wow.... Why did I feel so bad?? How did I get there?
And losing a few pounds along the way doesn't hurt the ego either! Lol.
Just getting dressed can be agony at first, but you can do this.
Wishing you happy days!

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/19/2016 4:33:04 AM   
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Hello OP
You have some amazing advice:)
I would definitely get thee to a doc, get any other illnesses out of the way, or at least not causing whats happening to you right now.
For me, the strangest things can make me blue, and they are the ones that rightly or wrongly affect me more than others.
But blue, isnt depression, its hopefully a passing phase, I tend to over analyze things when Im depressed(and I mean depression as the illness.)
the right medical help is vital, Im not very good with shrinks, or CBT.
A change of meds, doing what you are doing and having people who will listen to you (instead of using platitudes or bullying) to get you out of the funk help.

I make lists, all over the place.. I do tasks with a "reward", small things silly things, a bubble bath...i never take baths, I shower, but yes a nice hot bubble bath with a glass of wine and some music makes me feel decadent.
I dont do retail therapy, cant afford it right now and I hate spending lots of money on ME, but like Cynthia mentioned, I have occasionally silly money, I will buy a new colour, lipstick, a bag of beads, a paper lantern or five...
I recently was given a stained glass colouring book, I bought some pens and markers. Yes, Im colouring again. Never thought that would happen, it is calming tho.
ANd I just finished one a few days ago, lol its up in the living room window and it looks cool (how old am I?)
I look up things at "Instructables" to make (I have a tardis I made out of a satsuma box from xmas satsumas) just silly lil things that bring a smile to your face. Simple pleasures can make more difference than a large one.
Take some time and smell the roses. make time for doing what you want to do instead of what you have to do.
I like that you found a DIY project:) that gives a sense of accomplishment.
I recently got three shoe bags, yanno the ones that hold 20 pairs of shoes over the back of the door?
I used one to keep all my hair stuff in, my bottles of perfume, tongs, etc etc, one for the kitchen with all the cleaners/sprays/tools stuck in the pockets, and a mesh one for the bathroom. I have three men living with me and little to no shelf space. so now it hangs on the inside of the shower, with everyones favourite conditioner, shampoo, shower gel in handy dandy pockets and not falling into the tub
Working with a doc/shrink/etc is important, of course, with meds, or without. Supplements and exercise, all good. But for those days when you dont even feel like getting dressed, let alone actually adult...doing things for yourself (or others) does help.
I wish you luck getting the "depression" under control, and that you feel better soon.



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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/19/2016 5:00:57 AM   
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Lucy! I want to see a picture of your color art. Can you post it here?

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/19/2016 5:26:07 AM   
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LOL When I can find my phone, I will take a pic:)
I am SOOOO not artistic, if I draw stickmen they look badly crippled.
And I have a mental block when it comes to shading...art is not my forte in the slightest.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/19/2016 5:45:14 AM   
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Who cares? I mean it's not a contest.
I love stained glass or stained glass looking objects.
If you don't want to show it it's fine!


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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/19/2016 4:24:21 PM   
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Depression is natural in some submissives. (Not in slaves.)

I - not a submissive - 'died' as a child by an act of God (at my request), and was as a result totally depressed; in my case also ever since a 'natural' condition. It improved somewhat when another part of my mind got activated. Every decade I notice a slight improvement.

In general - not in my case - the best thing to do is to be active: make long walks, exercize, attend funerals and try to feel something during the ceremony. You might try to sing. (I lost my sense of music as a consequence and it never came back.) Perhaps watch a comedy or funny show, that may cause you to laugh.

And keep at it. Any progress will be slow; at least initially. Persevere.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/19/2016 6:40:12 PM   
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Depression is natural in some submissives. (Not in slaves.)

Dafuq?

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/20/2016 3:37:22 PM   
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This has been useful to me at various times:
http://www.amazon.com/Finding-Joy-Ways-Spirit-Dance/dp/0060925884

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/21/2016 3:32:54 AM   
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One of the best ways I have found is to be around people who take my mind away from depressing things. My niece and her 3 kids are great for that. If I can't find anyone to be around, I sometimes watch tv or read a book. Anything to avoid sitting around and thinking about it.

If it gets worse, don't be afraid to get professional help. Sometimes talking through things can be very helpful.


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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/21/2016 5:59:10 PM   
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OP-

I have depression. Truly...I don't know many ways out of it. I'm on medication and I see a doctor regularly.

But read these from hyperbole and a half:
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2011/10/adventures-in-depression.html
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html

They at least will put a smile on your face and make you feel less alone.

I've started vitamin D, I'm on thyroid meds, and anti depressants. So unfortunately- I have to tell you- I still regularly have days (read: weeks) of depression. I sincerely ask that you seek help from a doctor- even if it isn't for anti depressants- or head to a therapist. There is no shame in doing so. Take care of yourself.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/21/2016 6:25:56 PM   
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I'm a regular here but I don't want to post under my usual nick. Some will understand, I hope.

I need to know: what do people do when they've suddenly been hit by depression? What, if anything, will help to nudge you out of it?

Thanks for all replies.


I suffer from clinical depression. To be honest, my depression never "goes away". Sometimes, it's just not as bad as other times.

What do I do when it's really bad? The only thing I can do....wait it out and pray....and pray and pray and hope that I will pull through it.

There are things I try and sometimes they may or may not work. But I don't know if it's the things I'm doing that are helping or if it's simply a time thing. I tend to think it's a time thing.

Mostly I try to get as much alone time as possible.....go someplace by myself, get away from the hubbub of the city and work, get some fresh air and sunshine if possible (unfortunately this time of year is the worst for me). I try to find things that are a little more uplifting for my soul...and I try to keep myself healthy.

Unfortunately, none of this is really working so far this year so I'm back to just waiting it out....praying, and praying and praying some more.

Hopefully you find that one thing that will pull you out. Do you have a hobby? Something you enjoy doing? Does being around other people bring you happiness? Does alone time make you feel better? Do you find talking to someone to be cathartic?

If you are really feeling hopeless, possibly try seeking a therapist or talk to a dr about stronger meds since I noticed you said you are on low grade ones.

I wish you the best of luck.


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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/21/2016 6:30:51 PM   
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Depression is natural in some submissives. (Not in slaves.)

Dafuq?


Seconded

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/22/2016 6:06:15 AM   
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I'm a regular here but I don't want to post under my usual nick. Some will understand, I hope.

I need to know: what do people do when they've suddenly been hit by depression? What, if anything, will help to nudge you out of it?

Thanks for all replies.


You know what, just disregard everything I said. Everyone gets depressed from time to time. Life loves throwing curve balls. If you need to talk about the shitty feelings you have right now, then you go right ahead. I hope you don't let an asshole like me make your day any worse. I've had fuck all patience lately and that's totally on me. I admit I've been posting a lot of poor quality stuff lately. No of which has anything to do with your post. Hope you're feeling better.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/22/2016 7:15:17 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SockForPurpose

I'm a regular here but I don't want to post under my usual nick. Some will understand, I hope.

I need to know: what do people do when they've suddenly been hit by depression? What, if anything, will help to nudge you out of it?

Thanks for all replies.


You know what, just disregard everything I said. Everyone gets depressed from time to time. Life loves throwing curve balls. If you need to talk about the shitty feelings you have right now, then you go right ahead. I hope you don't let an asshole like me make your day any worse. I've had fuck all patience lately and that's totally on me. I admit I've been posting a lot of poor quality stuff lately. No of which has anything to do with your post. Hope you're feeling better.


That was a cool thing to post..... Hope you aren't depressed too! My God the whole lot of us need help.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/22/2016 7:19:26 AM   
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Depression is natural in some submissives. (Not in slaves.)

I - not a submissive - 'died' as a child by an act of God (at my request), and was as a result totally depressed; in my case also ever since a 'natural' condition. It improved somewhat when another part of my mind got activated. Every decade I notice a slight improvement.

In general - not in my case - the best thing to do is to be active: make long walks, exercize, attend funerals and try to feel something during the ceremony. You might try to sing. (I lost my sense of music as a consequence and it never came back.) Perhaps watch a comedy or funny show, that may cause you to laugh.

And keep at it. Any progress will be slow; at least initially. Persevere.

This post was interesting to me. I don't quite get it. I read it a few times but can't fully understand it.
Do you mind elaborating? The part about dying as a child especially.

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