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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/22/2016 3:35:55 PM

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I'm a regular here but I don't want to post under my usual nick. Some will understand, I hope.

I need to know: what do people do when they've suddenly been hit by depression? What, if anything, will help to nudge you out of it?

Thanks for all replies.

I suffer from clinical depression. To be honest, my depression never "goes away". Sometimes, it's just not as bad as other times.

What do I do when it's really bad? The only thing I can do....wait it out and pray....and pray and pray and hope that I will pull through it.

There are things I try and sometimes they may or may not work. But I don't know if it's the things I'm doing that are helping or if it's simply a time thing. I tend to think it's a time thing.

Mostly I try to get as much alone time as possible.....go someplace by myself, get away from the hubbub of the city and work, get some fresh air and sunshine if possible (unfortunately this time of year is the worst for me). I try to find things that are a little more uplifting for my soul...and I try to keep myself healthy.

Unfortunately, none of this is really working so far this year so I'm back to just waiting it out....praying, and praying and praying some more.

Hopefully you find that one thing that will pull you out. Do you have a hobby? Something you enjoy doing? Does being around other people bring you happiness? Does alone time make you feel better? Do you find talking to someone to be cathartic?

If you are really feeling hopeless, possibly try seeking a therapist

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/22/2016 3:54:39 PM

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Some parts of the mind, if present at all, is my conclusion, are just in the way of one or more other parts of the mind. Those in the way parts are like milk teeth. Only by losing them can what remains achieve the mature condition; a maturity that people with ordinary minds hardly ever achieve.

What results when this maturity of one kind or another is achieved, is a superhuman being - who of course also is crazy - mentally handicapped - in some way(s). It is also possible that such a 'milk tooth' part of the mind temporarily flips out and on again.

I have noticed that depression is characteristic for some submissives (not slaves, who have a different psychology). Their depression often is a reason for a dominant not to want to interact with such submissives. And for the submissive to think that something is wrong with him or her, that needs to be cured. Whereas in my model nothing actually is wrong with such submissives - nor with myself as a non-submissive. It merely is our natural condition, in my opinion.

That said, I have to add that depression is a complicated issue and that my model in many cases will - or may - not be relevant.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/22/2016 4:06:42 PM

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Thank you for responding.
It is very appreciated.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/23/2016 7:12:53 AM

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Sorry. Can't do it.

This statement of "slaves don't get/have clinical depression" is a fallacy. All it does is negate the information that we KNOW about how the brain actually works on a chemical level. Most of what we do in BDSM is about tricking the brain to induce an abundance of chemicals that are above the normal state of flow. It's how we get people to experience "space" on the bottom side. Endorphin's, dopamine, adrenaline, electronic impulses... All of the stuff that is scientifically proven by various studies.

What you should be asking is why this stuff works. Why do anti-depressants work? What is "runner's high"? Why is alcohol a depressant? What is it about exercise that can change your mood? Why does your vitamin intake matter? What's happening in your grey matter when pain is induced? Why can you use fear, rather than pain, to get the same result?

It's not as easy as saying a person is a slave, so their brain will produce the right chemicals. You have to dig a little deeper than that.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/26/2016 3:45:19 PM

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Thank you to everyone who's posted. I really am grateful - in fact, I'm bowled over: it's done me a lot of good just seeing so many people here who are prepared to help. Some writing at length; some writing to me by cmail; all writing with thought and feeling. Honestly, I'm warming to this place all over again. It's kinder than I'd grown to think.

Cell, thank you for your change of heart. But please don't sweat it. For one thing, I know where such cynicism comes from - God knows I have enough of it myself. For another, I do somewhat agree that there's something to be said for getting off the net and out into the world. I'm good at writing and good at being on my own - a great mixture for being a big noise on the internet. But hugging your computer isn't all that much fun as you fall asleep. You need to get out of the house and find a real flesh and blood human for that purpose. But thirdly and mainly: this thread was and is doing me *so* much good. There was no way I was going to leave this alone.

I'm no longer down, as I was last week. It was a passing thing, like I knew it would be. Horrible, all the same: I had thoughts and feelings that I'd not had since my twenties. it was a bit alarming for me. I'm off to the doc next week to see about upping my dose of SSRIs. LadyPact - yes, that point was well-made: I have no doubt that the medics start you on the lowest dose of those pills, then play it by ear. I don't think my doctor will argue and I strongly think it's worth a try.

But, also ... I once saw a therapist, way back when I was in college. He and I would work out resolutions ... and then I'd not follow them. At one point, later, he said, very intensely, 'You *must do* what you *know you must do*'. The advice went in one ear and out of the other, then. But, back then, I don't think I was well enough really to absorb that advice. I am now, though. I'm not a kid any more. I've picked up a little bit, at least, of self-discipline over the years. I'm aware, now, of the difference between gentle self-discipline that and 'cudgeling oneself' on the one hand, or unrealistic ambition on the other. I shall build on it.

I'm not going to post again under this nick. It's begun to feel underhand of me. But just to say, again: thank you all, so much. You are good people and you can be sure that I shall remember this thread, and the kindness of all you, with a great deal of fondness and for a long time to come.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/26/2016 5:37:58 PM

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I have found great help through Homeopathics. If you are suicidal, there is a remedy called Aurum. You would purchase it in 1M dosage. I buy the 2 dram size from wellworks.net. I take 6 small pellets under my tongue until they dissolve, each night for 3 nights before bed. Don't eat or drink anything for half hour before or after taking it. By that time I am feeling somewhat lighter. And then as it continues to work in my system, I increasingly feel better.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/27/2016 12:11:57 AM

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1) volunteer

2) exercise

3) I don't know

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/27/2016 5:54:59 PM

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I have noticed that depression is characteristic for some submissives (not slaves, who have a different psychology).

Wrong. Just very, very wrong.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/27/2016 5:58:37 PM

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I have found great help through Homeopathics. If you are suicidal, there is a remedy called Aurum. You would purchase it in 1M dosage. I buy the 2 dram size from wellworks.net. I take 6 small pellets under my tongue until they dissolve, each night for 3 nights before bed. Don't eat or drink anything for half hour before or after taking it. By that time I am feeling somewhat lighter. And then as it continues to work in my system, I increasingly feel better.

If you're feeling suicidal, get thee to an emergency room!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 2/27/2016 6:05:47 PM

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Depending on where you live, you could be experience Seasonal Acute Depression (SAD) which is brought on by a lack of vitamin D, which is generated in our body by being exposed to sunlight (or at least certain wavelengths of light). It's very similar to actual depression, but it is caused by different chemical imbalances which can be rectified fairly easily. It happens more often in more northern countries (like Canada) where in the winter you're much more bundled up and less skin is exposed to the sunlight. As a result, we produce less vitamin D and SAD becomes a common issue among people in the north. Taking vitamin D pills/tablets, which you can find at any local drug store, or using a clinically approve "light box" can make a world of difference. I started taking vitamin D in the winters starting last year and I must say after years of suffering from SAD in the wintertime, they improved my mood and motivation when I severely lacked it previously.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 3/10/2016 1:23:01 AM

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@ OP, I'm glad you're feeling so much better. I'm going to add to the thread however, in case anyone else comes along. I've suffered through clinical depression since I was 6. First it was bouts, about every 10 years. Hellish as a child, then a teen. I was finally knocked right off my feet 12 years ago. Bunch of diagnoses thrown at me, brain not wired right, the list is long. I will live the rest of my life on anti-depressants.

I'm not ashamed to discuss it, not implying IN ANY WAY YOU ARE. I do indeed know how it can be on the boards. But I've come to the conclusion, in my mind rightly so, that this is like a physical illness. No different than a broken leg. I've also hear the words "it's all in your head" "pull yourself out of it", etc. My own mom was the worst, I came very close to cutting her out of my life completely.

I've been unable to work for close to 12 yrs now. I'm on provincial disability. It's not easy, I stress over paying bills & buying food some months. Luckily, my dad helps out when I'm really in need. I live alone, I don't often talk to my dad or close friends very often. But I conifer myself lucky, I'm not suicidal, I call the crisis line in the middle of the night when I need to.

If anyone reading this ever feels the need, please, my inbox is open here & on Fet (same nic). I know the pain & I'm more than willing to chat.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 3/14/2016 11:00:16 AM

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FLUOXETINE WORKS OR A GOOD QUALITY SCOTCH.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 3/17/2016 9:52:14 AM

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A change of venue can work. I try to get out of the house. The dollar stores and secondhand stores are great for this. I've gotten on craigslist and bought tools, which also feeds my feeling of being powerful and capable.

A book, maybe? If it works, it will pull you into a different world.

Glad you're feeling better.

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RE: 'First Aid' for sudden depression - 3/17/2016 2:47:41 PM

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If it's common for you at this time of year, then I'm thinking Seasonal Affective Disorder. Years ago, I would go visit relatives in Florida during late February or early March, just to get that one week boost of sunlight at a time when my store of Vitamin D III was fully exhausted from my body.
Have you tried a light box? Or a vitamin supplement of 5,000 IU of D III?

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