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rkfdbdsm -> RE: Do You Believe Historical Jesus Actually Existed? (3/11/2016 6:35:08 PM)
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Well, your erudition is cool. You have, of course, chosen actual texts, although I don't off the cuff remember a gospel of longinius, although I remember who he is.
Actually, I was just using him to reference someone who had more first hand experience with Jesus than Paul, albeit a brief experience. Though I would LOVE to hear his impression of Jesus!
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As for John of Patmos, your scholarship is a bit lacking here. Either that or follows a protestant tradition. A friend of mine did the translation of the book of revelations for the New American bible. Catholic interpretation varies widely from protestant. The symbology of John would have been well understood to christians during the roman persecutions.
It is only trying to read it now that people lack the referrents.
I was raised to believe that John the Apostle wrote Revelations. But one priest in school said it was John the Elder, and other sources say that John of Patmos was the author. There have been stories, none that *I* put faith in, that John was a madman and his rantings were transcribed by monks, or that Revelations is a loose translation of a Babylonian version of Ragnarok, or even that it was concocted as a means of controlling the faithful more fully through fear (it may have been included for that reason, but I can't believe it was written for that reason). Modern scholars have trouble nailing down a date, let alone author, for the book. As for the symbology, I don't doubt you one bit. Imagining modern self-help books being looked at 2000 years from now, I can only laugh at the future impressions of our modern idioms.
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