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MuscleBoundDom -> Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/20/2016 4:42:56 PM)
I don't understand why a woman won't meet a local man, say at a coffee shop, just to see if they "click." It just takes 20 minutes out of her schedule. She could probably meet 10 men in one week. Surely, out of the 10 men, there would be one she would "click" with. Yet, most women don't meet any men and then they complain that they can't find anyone. That's just crazy. Now if a woman said, "I met 10 different men last week at a coffee shop and I didn't "click" with any of them" then that would be a different story. However, most women meet ZERO men and complain that they can't meet anyone. Don't you agree?

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/20/2016 4:50:18 PM)
quote: Surely, out of the 10 men, there would be one she would "click" with. LOL

Lucylastic -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/20/2016 4:59:41 PM)
I wouldnt meet any man for coffee without "clicking" in some way before hand. If I was that desperate to meet a man I would set up a table at a coffee shop with a big sign on it that says "single? please talk to me to see if we click" Its my life, my time, my prerogative, my reasons. Why would I care about someones expectations if I dont "click" with them

dreamlady -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/20/2016 5:21:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom I don't understand why a woman won't meet a local man, say at a coffee shop, just to see if they "click." It just takes 20 minutes out of her schedule. She could probably meet 10 men in one week. Surely, out of the 10 men, there would be one she would "click" with. Yet, most women don't meet any men and then they complain that they can't find anyone. That's just crazy. Now if a woman said, "I met 10 different men last week at a coffee shop and I didn't "click" with any of them" then that would be a different story. However, most women meet ZERO men and complain that they can't meet anyone. Don't you agree? Allow me to de-mansplain this for you. You don't understand why women won't agree to meet YOU. . . . How soon do you bring up the subject? Men who are in a rush come across as desperate and needy. Big turn-off. It may just take 20 minutes out of YOUR schedule. You just pull on your wife-beater T, comb your hair (maybe), do a quick dry electric Gillette once-over (maybe). Many women, on the other hand, have to plan in advance with getting our hair styled or touched up. Perhaps even a new manicure. We may have a favorite outfit that has to be drycleaned. Or, there are some who will want to pick up a new piece for the season to update their wardrobe, shop for a stylish pair of new shoes. . . . Put our car through the carwash. . . . Therefore, we are assessing in our minds, are YOU WORTH going to the trouble to meet? Meeting men is not like having a revolving door at Grand Central Station. As for your statement that "most women don't meet any men" -- let me rephrase that for you. Most women don't want to meet just any man. Further, on what basis are you alleging that "most women meet ZERO men"? How would you know this? Are you sure you aren't hearing women say that they are meeting NO men they have any interest in? Men who turn out to be ZEROs in terms of what they're looking for, that is. So rather than pointing the finger at "most" women for not accommodating YOUR whims or your ass-backwards way of going about things, you should be asking yourself what it is that YOU are doing wrong in making yourself not meet-worthy? Btw, if a lady told me that she met 10 men last week and didn't click with any of them, she would know that she was doing something wrong and spinning her wheels. Your approach may be to take shots in the dark and not place much value on your time, or not care about wasting gas and other limited resources, since you choose to play the odds, figuring that you might have 1 chance in 10 so what the hell. That isn't how "most" women approach life in such a cavalier fashion -- to us, 1 in 10 odds of success are sucky odds. We like for the deck to be stacked in our favor. [:D] (And so will a man who has reached any acceptable level of emotional maturity.) DreamLady

littleladybug -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/20/2016 5:48:52 PM)
I took a couple of hours out of my schedule a year and a half ago to meet someone at a local walking path. No real "getting ready", other than looking at my phone to figure out directions. We had spoken very briefly through the messaging feature on here. The biggest thing about this is- yes, he was local, but he wasn't just any guy. He definitely intrigued me, and stood out as someone that I hoped I would click with in person. When I was looking, I wasn't throwing spaghetti at the wall to see if something stuck. And, seriously, guys who do that stand out a hundred miles away. Not at all attractive from my perspective.

Danemora -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/20/2016 5:51:13 PM)
~FRing it~ Perhaps she read your previous forum postings ranting about other women you have met and she decided those 20 minutes would be better spent elsewhere? For me, if I don't get any sort of feeling via conversation with someone...then I decline meeting them and wish them well. If I get a bad feeling or just am not feeling it when it comes to someone, I'm not going to waste my time or theirs. I'd rather wait got someone compatible than have a revolving door of meetings I know isn't going to go anywhere. Frankly no man is better than being stuck with someone I'm just not that into.

Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/20/2016 6:13:49 PM)
Where did you get the idea that repetitive whining = dominant?

mousekabob -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/20/2016 6:34:44 PM)
translation: "They won't meet me after only talking to them here for 5 minutes. Wwwwhhhhaaaa!!!!. Every woman should instantly want to me ME! It's them and not ME." [8\|]

SuaveGentleman -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/20/2016 10:59:28 PM)
i am curious to know at what point of your conversation(s) with her did you bring this up?

pleasnpetrichor -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/20/2016 11:44:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom Surely, out of the 10 men, there would be one she would "click" with. Think so? I confess, I'm not as sure as you are.

crumpets -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/21/2016 12:15:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom However, most women meet ZERO men and complain that they can't meet anyone. Most women meet zero men? Where did you (the OP) get this statistic? And this 1 out of 10 statistic? Where'd you (the OP) get that? The DreamLady response is the one the OP should read most since it adds the most on-topic value for your question. I don't think I can add much value to what she wrote other than to mention to the OP that most women "can get" more men than they can possibly handle. So, taking a different approach to the same solution than DreamLady did (since she fleshed out her approach rather well), it seems you're thinking like a man, where "can get" means, (to you?) can "get laid" or something to that effect? Or, perhaps ... you mean "can get" in the same light of, perhaps, will "settle for" or something like that? Is that right? Well, if so, any woman can settle for almost any guy - which they all know. You see, while it has value to you (and to me), it has very little value to them. Women can "settle for" or women can "get laid" by just about any guy (yes, even the one best one guy out of every ten). What I find interesting is that I think the actual ratio of decent men for "most women" is something like 1 in a hundred when they're all young (men and women in their twenties and thirties) and then it drops down to something like one in a thousand after that. Where am "I" getting "my" statistics? I'm pulling them out of thin air - so hear out my reasoning as I'm taking the statistical approach to things for you here. What I'm trying to tell you (and which DreamLady did far more eloquently) is that, women don't think like men do. Statistically speaking, "most women" are looking for something rather special in the one guy that they want which includes a LOT of qualities, which only about one man in something like a thousand possess at this stage of the game (and that rules both you and me out, just based on the numbers alone). Hence, I think you (the OP) need to rethink your 1 in 10 frog-to-prince ratio by adding a minimum of one zero, and more likely, two. That, my friend, is a LOT of 20-minute coffee dates! And, oh, by the way, as noted, since when is a coffee date only "20" minutes elapsed time? For me, even if we assume no shower-and-a-shave, just to get to a local Starbucks would be a minimum of 30 minutes (more if there is traffic). Then you have to wait, roughly something like ten or more minutes for the other person to arrive (since I believe the man should always be there when she arrives). Add another five or ten minutes in line. Then, 20 minutes to talk? What? 20 minutes? I spend more time talking with random people in the checkout line at Safeway than that. It's never gonna be less than an hour, and far often far more than that. Even then, she doesn't know what she needs to know about you. NOTE: You may have "assessed" her in 10 seconds flat - but she's needing an assessment of you which entails far greater detail. In short... No way is a woman gonna find out what she needs to find out about you in that 20 minutes you've graciously allotted her. [image]http://puzzles-games.eu/data/media/3/Prince-Naveen-and-Tiana-Princess-and-the-Frog-Poster.jpg[/image]

dreamlady -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/21/2016 1:07:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom However, most women meet ZERO men and complain that they can't meet anyone. Most women meet zero men? Where did you (the OP) get this statistic? And this 1 out of 10 statistic? Where'd you (the OP) get that? The DreamLady response is the one the OP should read most since it adds the most on-topic value for your question. I don't think I can add much value to what she wrote other than to mention to the OP that most women "can get" more men than they can possibly handle. So, taking a different approach to the same solution than DreamLady did (since she fleshed out her approach rather well), it seems you're thinking like a man, where "can get" means, (to you?) can "get laid" or something to that effect? Or, perhaps ... you mean "can get" in the same light of, perhaps, will "settle for" or something like that? Is that right? Well, if so, any woman can settle for almost any guy - which they all know. You see, while it has value to you (and to me), it has very little value to them. Women can "settle for" or women can "get laid" by just about any guy (yes, even the one best one guy out of every ten). What I find interesting is that I think the actual ratio of decent men for "most women" is something like 1 in a hundred when they're all young (men and women in their twenties and thirties) and then it drops down to something like one in a thousand after that. Where am "I" getting "my" statistics? I'm pulling them out of thin air - so hear out my reasoning as I'm taking the statistical approach to things for you here. What I'm trying to tell you (and which DreamLady did far more eloquently) is that, women don't think like men do. Statistically speaking, "most women" are looking for something rather special in the one guy that they want which includes a LOT of qualities, which only about one man in something like a thousand possess at this stage of the game (and that rules both you and me out, just based on the numbers alone). Hence, I think you (the OP) need to rethink your 1 in 10 frog-to-prince ratio by adding a minimum of one zero, and more likely, two. That, my friend, is a LOT of 20-minute coffee dates! And, oh, by the way, as noted, since when is a coffee date only "20" minutes elapsed time? For me, even if we assume no shower-and-a-shave, just to get to a local Starbucks would be a minimum of 30 minutes (more if there is traffic). Then you have to wait, roughly something like ten or more minutes for the other person to arrive (since I believe the man should always be there when she arrives). Add another five or ten minutes in line. Then, 20 minutes to talk? What? 20 minutes? I spend more time talking with random people in the checkout line at Safeway than that. It's never gonna be less than an hour, and far often far more than that. Even then, she doesn't know what she needs to know about you. NOTE: You may have "assessed" her in 10 seconds flat - but she's needing an assessment of you which entails far greater detail. In short... No way is a woman gonna find out what she needs to find out about you in that 20 minutes you've graciously allotted her. OP has it down to 20 minutes on average, because he figures 10-15 minutes to get to Starbucks (he'll of course pick a place requiring the least effort on his part), 2 minutes of waiting time will max out his patience before he books, 2 seconds to size up the woman's HWP-BMI index before pretending he is some other random dude who resembles how he described himself (and what he's wearing [what color wife-beater T]) 5 minutes for one or the other to get their DUTCH beverage which leaves roughly 3-5 minutes of actual conversation before he spaces out. No, wait. There's that 5-minute bathroom break. No time for conversation. Nice save! [:o] DreamLady

ExiledTyrant -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/21/2016 4:16:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom However, most women meet ZERO men and complain that they can't meet anyone. So wot you're saying is that over-population isn't really a people problem, it's a test tube problem... a global conspiracy... I suspect that under the factory floor of every candy company is a laboratory where babies are grown, packaged, and deposited in hospitals. I'm confident that random chocolates are laced with some insidious drug that implants a pregnancy memory, doctor visits, blah blah blah, and BLAM!!!! You wake up in the hospital with a new bundle of joy in your arms. I'm sure crumpets could post some data to support it, but, guys, be very careful wot chocolate you eat. If it's "girl specific" you could wake up in the hospital with a sore ass and new bundle of joy in your arms. Jus sayin

LilJuly76 -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/21/2016 5:15:28 AM)
dreamlady and crumpets have the best responses so far. OP-in 22 years it's gotten to the point I ask enough questions online before I even decide I will even meet a guy. Judging from your whine it sounds like you want sex sex and more sex.

LadyPact -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/21/2016 5:18:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom I don't understand why a woman won't meet a local man, say at a coffee shop, just to see if they "click." It just takes 20 minutes out of her schedule. She could probably meet 10 men in one week. Surely, out of the 10 men, there would be one she would "click" with. Yet, most women don't meet any men and then they complain that they can't find anyone. That's just crazy. Now if a woman said, "I met 10 different men last week at a coffee shop and I didn't "click" with any of them" then that would be a different story. However, most women meet ZERO men and complain that they can't meet anyone. Don't you agree? First, I want to know how you are determining that most women meet zero men. Did these women (plural) tell you that they don't meet ANY men from the site or is it a case of they didn't want to meet you, so you assume they don't meet anyone? Also, I'm interested in the complaints. Are the complaints that they aren't meeting anyone of quality (entirely possible) or not meeting anyone at all? I can assure you that it takes me longer than twenty minutes to get anywhere and if you're really in LA, unless your closest Starbucks is on the corner, it takes you longer than that to get there, too. Since I mention it, you live in LA, so the women you are approaching probably do, too. Being a person who lives in a different major city metro area than you, I'm wondering why you think these women wouldn't be taking the practical approach of meeting kinky people, at maybe, any one of the dozen of things that are available for kinky people to get together in your town? In ten seconds, I found thirteen pages of events in your area. I'd rather go have fun and meet people in the process than keep going on revolving door coffee shop dates. If I don't meet anybody, I still had fun at game night or getting together to watch "Rocky Horror Picture Show".

itsSIRtou -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/21/2016 7:02:20 AM)
u all forget that this (the OP) is the same guy who cant understand why his "suggestions" that women he talks to that they lose weight goes unlistened to.

MuscleBoundDom -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/21/2016 7:11:57 AM)
This is what I like about forums - there is always something to learn. I had no idea it took women so much time, energy and effort just to meet someone at a coffee shop.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/21/2016 7:18:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom Blah blah yada yada yada...I had no idea..... <snip> Sounds about right. [8\|]

WickedsDesire -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/21/2016 7:33:13 AM)
They should probably meet only the ones they click with first...lucylastic beat to me that one. Sadly on fetish sites, swingers,sex sites, most of those 10 men are in a relationship already, and omit that detail from their profiles, and I doubt more than 0-2 per 10 would ever show up. And most men on these places view a women as a hole/object. Single site tend to sit around 50% people married attached in a relationship or using their "friends pictures" If i did a local search on here then it usually returns 40% pro dommes 40% fake fin dommes and hot lesbians or hot bisexual (of course most only use no pics -or stolen pictures) - looking for a women for their master (perhaps he is a lazy bam) Now that leaves me 20% of that 20% then more than half are in relationships (also omitted from their profile)...reasons - too many to go into. Summary genuine single women looking for a relationship are rare and they have to filter through 100-1000s times the mail/profile any man gets. And married man/bad stereotype adapt and become highly skilled with their words and approaches. Having said that I have known of a couple of women who met 100-300 per year x a few years. I asked many questions such as if that was me what would you think of me as a human being. I have spoken to women looking to date on mainstream sites and in the course of the week they tell me about their 3 different dates for that week. Again I ask many questions - if that was me what would you think of me as a person, would you think me single, if you were different date number 3-5 for the week how would you feel. nevertheless most common s tory I still hear is hie was married, his wife called turned up at my door....counter arguments can therefore be made that these women are only interested in talkers of nonsense who tell them everything they want to hear, need to hear - what a mess.

LadyPact -> RE: Women Aren't Trying So They Are Complaining (2/21/2016 7:53:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom This is what I like about forums - there is always something to learn. I had no idea it took women so much time, energy and effort just to meet someone at a coffee shop. I read this to MP to get his reaction... "Is that a guy's quote? How did I know it was a guy's quote?" Then he just laughed.

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