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Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 3:17:11 PM

thorneyone

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Help please!!
I got involved in a row, trying to defend Age play and regression from a sympathetic viewpoint and was rounded on with the suggestion that the dynamic is immoral and a possible outlet for illegal impulses.
Where does the community stand on such?

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 3:27:17 PM

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Peadophila is not age play. It is wrong and is a TOS Violation having to do with minors. Post reported

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 3:42:33 PM

thorneyone

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Peadophilia is not age play granted, but some people suggested to me that age play was paedophila.
What is a TOS violation and what do you mean by "Post reported"?

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 3:45:47 PM

thorneyone

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I am not trying to catch anyone out here. I am earnestly trying to resolve an issue that I find a paradox.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 3:53:17 PM

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There is no paradox. Period.

Paedophilia involves minors.
Age play involves adults playing the role of minors.

Very VERY different things.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:02:27 PM

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Thank you. Well said.
WHOEVER told the OP that they were one and the same should have known better.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:04:54 PM

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Well, that was the argument I used, but even the "play" and make believe aspect was demonized by the Forum and I admit, I started to question my own understanding of imagination and Creativity.
Is there any culpability in make believe? Is there any moral certainty from consent?

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:05:14 PM

Nepthys61

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quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

There is no paradox. Period.

Paedophilia involves minors.
Age play involves adults playing the role of minors.

Very VERY different things.

Thank you for defining the difference.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:17:06 PM

thorneyone

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Trying to hold my own in a vanilla Forum that is overly moralistic and reactionary is hard going and believe me I have tried to argue our case! LOL.
I hope the issue proves a bit more controversial on here though.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:17:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nepthys61

quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

There is no paradox. Period.

Paedophilia involves minors.
Age play involves adults playing the role of minors.

Very VERY different things.

Thank you for defining the difference.

Age play groups and Dom Daddy/little girl fetish are quite open and common on Fet. I think someone in this thread allowed his moral indignation to run amok.

The first rule of Fight Club is not to talk about Fight Club; the first rule of BDSM is not to condemn the kinks of others. I think the OP asked a legitimate question. Might have used a less provocative title however.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:22:30 PM

thorneyone

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Well, I do concede that. I am not the most tactful of souls.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:26:08 PM

thorneyone

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Since it seems common to assign posts and threads, I think this one from Freud suits me;

“A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes but to get into accord with them: they are legitimately what directs his conduct in the world.”

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:28:13 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thorneyone

Well, that was the argument I used, but even the "play" and make believe aspect was demonized by the Forum and I admit, I started to question my own understanding of imagination and Creativity.
Is there any culpability in make believe? Is there any moral certainty from consent?

Okay, Einstein said there are only two things that are infinite; the universe and human stupidity... of the former I am unsure.

There should be a subtext of the later... when people are unsure, they make shit up. Think of it as "Human Stupidity; Ss2.

Some people will argue, endlessly, that their "online relationship" is as real as any other, but when they're banging, it's entirely a man and hand relationship. If I'm not immersed in her ambrosia, it's not real.

Jus sayin

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:29:11 PM

Nepthys61

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quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nepthys61

quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

There is no paradox. Period.

Paedophilia involves minors.
Age play involves adults playing the role of minors.

Very VERY different things.

Thank you for defining the difference.

Age play groups and Dom Daddy/little girl fetish are quite open and common on Fet. I think someone in this thread allowed his moral indignation to run amok.

The first rule of Fight Club is not to talk about Fight Club; the first rule of BDSM is not to condemn the kinks of others. I think the OP asked a legitimate question. Might have used a less provocative title however.

I wasn't feeling morally indignant with my response. I was just glad that the terms were defined for the OP.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:36:19 PM

thorneyone

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I wish I could be so sure!
I find my questions a genuine complex and bind but I despair the way do gooders and moralists trash what this community strives to explain.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 4:40:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thorneyone

I wish I could be so sure!
I find my questions a genuine complex and bind but I despair the way do gooders and moralists trash what this community strives to explain.

Okay, here's tha thang... when the Husband plays pizza delivery boy that has a hot delivery for Miss Robinson, it's not adultery, but there will always be some asswipe that get's their knickers in a twist and says it is.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 5:00:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nepthys61

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nepthys61

quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

There is no paradox. Period.

Paedophilia involves minors.
Age play involves adults playing the role of minors.

Very VERY different things.

Thank you for defining the difference.

Age play groups and Dom Daddy/little girl fetish are quite open and common on Fet. I think someone in this thread allowed his moral indignation to run amok.

The first rule of Fight Club is not to talk about Fight Club; the first rule of BDSM is not to condemn the kinks of others. I think the OP asked a legitimate question. Might have used a less provocative title however.

I wasn't feeling morally indignant with my response. I was just glad that the terms were defined for the OP.

Sorry. I did not mean you. I should have made it more clear I was pointing to an earlier post, but did not wish to violate TOS.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 5:59:04 PM

mousekabob

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the theory is that if you want adults to act like children, you will do it with actual minors as well. Some believe it's a fine line. I'm not giving my opinion one way or the other, just throwing out a theory that is held by many.

My only opinion is, do what you want, just don't be stupid.

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 6:13:47 PM

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Is it a theory?

Or perhaps an hypothesis?

Or maybe mindless, knee jerk redneck reactionism like the "Ooh, ooh, you're a bad person, I'ma reporting you to SIR an' he's gonna whack yer peepee" post up ^thataway^ ?

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RE: Peadophilia - 2/21/2016 6:17:16 PM

mousekabob

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Curmudgeonly1

Is it a theory?

Or perhaps an hypothesis?

Or maybe mindless, knee jerk redneck reactionism like the "Ooh, ooh, you're a bad person, I'ma reporting you to SIR an' he's gonna whack yer peepee" post up ^thataway^ ?

MKIOK,YKINOK.

Not enough evidence to state any one way.

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