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RE: New dominants? - 3/3/2016 10:59:54 AM   
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Having experience denotes lack of natural dominance to me. As in he needs to practice. I was attracted to my Dom because he was naturally confident in his abilities to be one. He did have a couple of years of "experience " in that sense. But it was his attitude, presence, confidence and manner that made me want him.

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RE: New dominants? - 3/3/2016 11:27:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SuaveGentleman

How did you go about it in your early days? How do subs / slaves see it now?



It depends on what you're looking for.

If what you (either the sub or the Dominant) want act driven stuff, like a good flogging, or shibari, or electro-play, then yes there's going to be a learning curve to become good at what you want to do.

If I want to do a suspension shibari scene, I'm going to expect the Top to have experience with shibari, and know what he's doing before attempting to do it. Even if it's his first time doing such a scene, I'm going to expect him having the basics of rope-play down before attempting a suspension.
If it's a guy I'm into for other reasons, I'm more than willing to help him get the experience needed to work up to doing suspensions (like with my husband, who was totally inexperienced with rope before we met) but the experience, and slow build up of his skill level, is still going to need to be there, before we get into suspensions.

On the other hand there's the more general 'being the leader' stuff. Things like deciding what the sub eats, when she goes to bed, how the dishes are done. On that type of Dominance, experience isn't really needed, what's needed is you being the type of person who can be a good leader.

Leadership can be honed over time, and you can become better at it with practice, but in the end, it's something you either have, or you don't. As such, being a new Dominant who's never had experience leading another person that way isn't really an indication of whether or not you'd actually be good at it or not. What matters is: are you the type of person worth following?

The way you show that you are a good leader, even if you've never been in charge before, is by setting an example of making good decisions in your own life.
Do you lead yourself well? Do you have a pattern of making the right decisions for yourself, and your own life? Do you have a pattern of thinking through stuff, instead of living on impulse and doing what you feel like without thought to the consequences?

If you can show that you've got your shit together, and lead yourself well first, experience leading another person isn't going to matter when you find a girl who's compatible with you, and your style of leadership.

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RE: New dominants? - 3/3/2016 11:21:59 PM   
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Yes that makes a lot of sense. I guess I lean more towards category 2 then.

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RE: New dominants? - 3/3/2016 11:24:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Yeah, and so classes are needed because....?



I'll side with Pact for this. As you said, someone figured it out by themselves. Sure, great. That does not mean I can or should figure it out by myself.

Just for the sake of argument, Einstein figured out General Theory by himself. If every new physicist who came in after that decided he too would figure it out by himself, (1) he may or may not be actually capable of it and (2) it is surely not the best investment of one's time and resources.

I dont know if people look down on this, but if something has been done well, I would rather pick up from it than re-invent the wheel. Sure, along the way I will want to add my own variations and flavours. But going in with the dogma that "I know it OR I'll figure it out" sounds a little presumptuous to me.

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RE: New dominants? - 3/6/2016 12:57:38 AM   
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I'm a young Dom and still learning. Actually I know pretty much everything I want to know. Basically, I know what I enjoy and I know how to do it safely. I researched the safety aspect but I learned what I liked through trying things with my partners. Maybe in the future I can experience more. My guess is that a sub would want someone confident who takes control and not someone with a list of kinky shit that they know how to do.

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RE: New dominants? - 3/15/2016 11:07:19 PM   
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Sorry to hear that pam what happen ???????

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RE: New dominants? - 3/16/2016 6:56:10 AM   
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SG, women will connect with someone they feel compatible with. They know they're not going to get 100% of what they're asking for - it may be looks, maybe the guy's shorter than they like, it might be that he's not as educated as they would like, or it might be that he's lacking experience. One way or another, there will be some woman who has enough compatibility with you that she will overlook lack of experience, especially if you're willing to learn and grow.

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RE: New dominants? - 3/16/2016 9:04:56 AM   
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quote:

would you choose a top (dom / master / daddy) who is new and does not have past experience?

Sure, I did just that, twice in fact.

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RE: New dominants? - 3/16/2016 1:33:50 PM   
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Should he not be bull whipping you now.
or would you like to feel the lash of my tongue deep within your thighs..I bet you have a ballsack there sock...perhaps i should just try and beat some sense into you with an anvil....not that I believe for one moment in time there are enough anvils in the world for that

just s saying :D

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RE: New dominants? - 3/17/2016 3:36:29 PM   
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quote:

How did you go about it in your early days? How do subs / slaves see it now?

1-Before one can rule another they should Master themselves
2-Agree that tops can be taught but Dominance is either something you have or don't. It's an innate thing. People are either take charge types or not.
3-Best way to be when new is simply to be a person worth serving.
4-Be honest. Be true to self. Don't wear masks, unless the are Friday the 13th type masks.
5-Its simply astounding what one can learn on youtube these days. Just saying
6-We all start somewhere. Let's never forget we were all newbies once. Best way to learn is find someone new, someone who has holes in her head perfectly filled by the rocks in yours, and learn together. For Me, and this is true in most things I do, I can read all I want but to really learn, to get foundationally sound, I need to get down on the field and play.
I learn by rote. I learn by doing.
Because you can study all you like, read porn and wiseman and screw as many thorns as you want, but until she is naked before you, sweat covering her flesh, trembling with fear and hope and need and desires, eyes at half mast and dropping deep deep into space, until you taste hat heady tonic of power and ownership and responsibility and "I can do fucking anything and she can't stop Me," you don't know shit. And all the studying and classes in the world won't help.
Not until you get in head and heart, body and soul and dig elbows deep inside and start seeing what makes her truly tick.
Then, then you know.
But until then, its all theory and hopes and BS.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it


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RE: New dominants? - 3/17/2016 9:31:34 PM   
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+100

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