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prove it fido, go ahead, prove it, you cant, and havent, ever.

Planned Parenthood Federation of America claims that the 665 clinics run by its affiliates[1] provide a “wide range” of health care as justification for taxpayers providing more than 40 percent of their funding, and that abortion is a small proportion of their services.[2] Yet, data show that Planned Parenthood Federation of America is the country’s largest abortion provider with affiliates performing more than 300,000 abortions per year, which amounts to approximately one out of every three in the country.[3]

Data may show that it is the biggest abortion provider...that doesnt mean anything beyond the fact that abortion has been banned from most other providers
It certainly doesnt mean that PP only does abortion, 300,000 compared to 10 million other services in a year it provides...



How Does Planned Parenthood Calculate Its Claims About Its Abortion Services?
Although Planned Parenthood Federation of America reportedly requires all affiliates to have at least one clinic that performs abortions,[4] Planned Parenthood’s annual report does not identify the number of affiliated clinics that provide abortion services or how much of Planned Parenthood’s total revenue results from abortions. Instead, the report claims that abortions account for only 3 percent of the medical services Planned Parenthood affiliates provide.[5]
Then the rules about their annual report should be changed? Plus...medicaid reimbursements for PP cover a multitude of sins.

How does the Planned Parenthood annual report arrive at the 3 percent figure? The calculation counts each “discrete clinical interaction” as a separate “medical service,” meaning simple tests or routine provision of birth control are given the same weight as surgical or chemical abortions.[6] For example, if a woman in the course of a year receives a free condom, a pregnancy test, a sexually transmitted infection (STI) test, and an abortion, Planned Parenthood would say abortion was only 25 percent of the services provided.

Chemical abortions are done with medication called methotrexate and misoprostol., it comes in tablet form, Not surgical, and it is not available to women over seven weeks. It doesnt need a surgical unit, it can be done in a docs office. Doctors routinely use multiple tests for patients. They still perform more services of other kinds.



Even with Planned Parenthood’s broad definition of “medical service,” data reported in the organization’s annual report suggest that roughly 12 percent of people who received a service from Planned Parenthood affiliates received an abortion during the reporting year.[7]



Despite a nearly 20 percent decline in the number of abortions in the country between 2000 and 2011,[8] the number of abortions Planned Parenthood performed during that time increased from 197,070 to 333,964, thereby more than doubling its share of the abortion market from 15 percent in 2000 to 32 percent in 2011,[9] the latest year for which national data are available.

Planned Parenthood affiliates perform about 20 abortions for every prenatal care visit and about 200 abortions for every adoption referral based on the approximately 300,000 abortions they perform each year.[10]

Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Government Subsidies
Combined federal, state, and local government funding has increased from $203 million (30 percent of Planned Parenthood’s consolidated revenue) during its fiscal year 2000–2001 to $528 million (41 percent of revenue) during 2013–2014.[11] Planned Parenthood’s annual report does not provide a breakdown of federal versus state funding or the exact government grants, contracts, and reimbursements it receives.

A Congressional Budget Office (CBO) analysis released in September 2015, however, shows that the organization’s affiliates received approximately $60 million of taxpayer money under Title X of the Public Health Services Act, and $390 million through federal payments under Medicaid in 2013.[12] The federal government generally provides reimbursement for 90 percent of the cost of “family planning services” and products covered under Medicaid, while states provide the remaining 10 percent.[13]

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Lol shows just how little you know.good god cd, are you in line for a sainthood?

Already a saint...

Still waiting for the articles about those Hillary and/or Bernie rallies disrupted by protestors from the right.

I have the feeling it's going to be a long wait.

when you can actually start a thread and give more than your opinion on posters, and not just shitting on a thread and then fly off...I may take either of you seriously.

CD, you arent owed a response....you dont command the respect, or the credibility to get me to respond to your idiocies, as we are not discussing violent rhetoric.
open your own bloody thread.
I could just as easily suggest that protesters at trump rallies are paid to get beat up...by trump
Prove Im wrong
you are a dipshit.

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Lol shows just how little you know.good god cd, are you in line for a sainthood?

Already a saint...

Still waiting for the articles about those Hillary and/or Bernie rallies disrupted by protestors from the right.

I have the feeling it's going to be a long wait.

when you can actually start a thread and give more than your opinion on posters, and not just shitting on a thread and then fly off...I may take either of you seriously.

CD, you arent owed a response....you dont command the respect, or the credibility to get me to respond to your idiocies, as we are not discussing violent rhetoric.
open your own bloody thread.
I could just as easily suggest that protesters at trump rallies are paid to get beat up...by trump
Prove Im wrong
you are a dipshit.

No...you keep right on proving that you're the one who's wrong.

You'd have it that Trump is doing something illegal with his comments. No matter how vile...or not...his comments are, they've not crossed the line into hate speech or anything else that would lead to provable charges of him abusing his First Amendment right to free speech.

However, the protestors have committed illegal acts, resulting in their removal or arrest. The Trump follower who sucker-punched the guy? He also committed an illegal act.

It can be proven that there's been disruptions of Trump's rallies. I have little doubt that these protestors could be proven to be Hillary or Bernie supporters. If you've got proof that Hillary or Bernie rallies have been disrupted in the same manner, it should be easy to find...yet there is none.

So...as usual...instead of bringing forth proof such as you demand, you resort to a condescending attitude and name-calling.

You are putting words in my mouth yet again and pretending that you are right. you can imagine all you want, but because i dont respond with what you want, you started the bullshit by demanding I supply something that I didnt argue.


As recently as this past Sunday, Trump appeared to stand by his previous statements, telling Meet the Press he had directed his staff to see about covering the legal expenses for the man who attacked a protester at the rally in North Carolina. That, however, no longer appears to be the case.
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Lucy, are you fucking kidding me? Planned Parenthood gets 500 million dollars a year from the government. That money comes from the taxes that I pay. So yes, I'm paying for it and I'm sick of it.

wow, they do??
Yanno why>>>?
tell me what most of that money is for, cmon smart boy

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Yesterday, under questioning by Representative Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-WY), Richards admitted that a staggering 86% of non-government revenue [was abortion] and revealed Planned Parenthood for what it is: an organization devoted to increasing the number of abortions in the United States. And Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC) drew an admission that if Congress defunded Planned Parenthood that it would have no effect on health services provided

At a hearing on Planned Parenthood funding in the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Tuesday, Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.) pointed out to Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards that the organization’s most recent tax report shows $127 million dollars of revenue in excess of expenses.

...In the course of her questioning, Richards told two whoppers. First, she admitted that Planned Parenthood did not provide mammograms. This was something we all knew but when people like Barack Obama keep mouthing the lie it is good to hear the head of Abortions-R-Us. Then she followed that up by saying Planned Parenthood had NEVER claimed to provide mammograms. This is not true. Here is video of Richards making that very claim. She also claimed she had never heard of a child being born alive after a botched abortion attempt. To believe this you have to believe that she has not been following the previous hearings on Planned Parenthood.

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thats strange, I see they have all buggered off, maybe they went to snore and scritch their balls

I can type with one hand, why can't they?

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http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2015/09/30/cecile-richards-abortion-86-planned-parenthoods-revenue/

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Yesterday, under questioning by Representative Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-WY), Richards admitted that a staggering 86% of non-government revenue [was abortion] and revealed Planned Parenthood for what it is: an organization devoted to increasing the number of abortions in the United States. And Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC) drew an admission that if Congress defunded Planned Parenthood that it would have no effect on health services provided

At a hearing on Planned Parenthood funding in the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Tuesday, Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.) pointed out to Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards that the organization’s most recent tax report shows $127 million dollars of revenue in excess of expenses.

...In the course of her questioning, Richards told two whoppers. First, she admitted that Planned Parenthood did not provide mammograms. This was something we all knew but when people like Barack Obama keep mouthing the lie it is good to hear the head of Abortions-R-Us. Then she followed that up by saying Planned Parenthood had NEVER claimed to provide mammograms. This is not true. Here is video of Richards making that very claim. She also claimed she had never heard of a child being born alive after a botched abortion attempt. To believe this you have to believe that she has not been following the previous hearings on Planned Parenthood.

In a usual business, revenues in excess of costs are called profits.

So lets summarize here, shall we?

1. By law, the US doesn't fund abortions.
2. 86% of Planned Parenthood's non governmental moneys are derived from abortion.
3. Planned parenthood doesn't provide mammograms.
4. Planned parenthood does 20 abortions for every family planning service - and 200 abortions for every adoption referral.
5. The idea that Planned parenthood does a significant amount of women's health - outside of abortion is thereby revealed to be a lie. The fact that Planned Parenthood does any women's health is a smokescreen for the fact that Planned Parenthood is an abortion provider - period.
6. The US government is subsidizing a company that made $127 million dollars in profits last year. Corporate subsidies are bad, right liberals?



I didn't bother with reporting a few things -such as Planned Parenthood spent more than 40 million dollars on travel and entertainment including some quite a few parties. Which is all well and good, if you are a for profit corporation - not so much when you're using federal grant dollars to do it.

Bottom line: If the issue really were women's health there would be no problem redirecting those same grants to women's health providers that actually do provide womens health services, such as mammograms.

But any representation that this really is a women's health issue is simply a lie. This is an abortion issue. And why do we need to be subsidizing with federal dollars a corporation that made $127 million dollars, hmm?

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Ahh...you mean the half of the American population on welfare or out of work. Yes, for a time. But when they are back at work and cities are livable again then not so much, I think.

Oh and when do you think that will happen
Thats what the repubs promised in the last election, jobs jobs jobs, and all they have done is cut cut cut...
He wont help lower class or unemployed.
No Republican in the past 20 years has done so.

He is the 1 percent, fuck the little man, he hasnt got a clue.
His best foreign policy person he listens most to ....is himself. by his own admission.
He and his supporters simply believe he has what it takes, to do what he wants ....he cant be what he wants to be. He cant do what he wants to do.
The constitution doesnt allow it.

He is the worst america has to offer
Oh funny thing is...its not just libs saying it.

It's fascinating....Trump wants the lower income folks to pay "something" and the upper income folks to pay"substantially" more.

Sanders wants only the wealthy to pay "substantially more".

Interesting.

I do like the thought of you(specifically) paying more taxes Lookie...yes, yes I do.