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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:10:25 AM   
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The only thing planned Parenthood does is abortions. They don't do pap smears. They don't do mamograms. How can people say they are for women's health when they don't provide the basic health services.

gawd your ignorance is so damn sad And so arrogant, and so easily proven wrong.
please show proof of this, Im dying to see it
or could it be you are attempting to blow smoke up my ass
cmon, prove it or shut the stupidity up.



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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:18:55 AM   
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He's more right than wrong.

Planned Parenthood is a level I breast cancer facility. Which means the only thing they are qualified to do is manual exams - the same thing that women should be doing at home every day and which is readily available at most free clinics or doctors offices.

All PP franchises are not the same, some offer more services than other. But what is true is that on a dollar basis, the vast majority of PP's services are abortions. Period. Planned parenthood, like most democrat ventures tries to obsure the truth and say that they offer thousands of services, and abortions are a small part of the services they offer. So they treat offering an asprin as a service and abortion as a service.

But you already know this, as we went throught this on a previous thread...

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:19:27 AM   
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Lucy, are you fucking kidding me? Planned Parenthood gets 500 million dollars a year from the government. That money comes from the taxes that I pay. So yes, I'm paying for it and I'm sick of it.


Your taxes are the dues you pay to belong to a pretty exclusive club( a few hundred million out of 8 billion). Anytime you don't like it you are free to turn in your membership card and leave.
Once you pay your dues it is not your money any more. So no you do not pay for shit.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:22:10 AM   
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prove it fido, go ahead, prove it, you cant, and havent, ever.


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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:22:24 AM   
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He's more right than wrong.

Is he correct when he says federal money is used for abortions?

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:27:55 AM   
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I was disagreeing with the dumb fuckery that abortion is all that PP do, but here comes lil fido opening the goalposts. I never claimed they did mammograms, I didnt claim anything about what they do or dont perform.


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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:28:48 AM   
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He's more right than wrong.

Planned Parenthood is a level I breast cancer facility. Which means the only thing they are qualified to do is manual exams - the same thing that women should be doing at home every day and which is readily available at most free clinics or doctors offices.

All PP franchises are not the same, some offer more services than other. But what is true is that on a dollar basis, the vast majority of PP's services are abortions. Period. Planned parenthood, like most democrat ventures tries to obsure the truth and say that they offer thousands of services, and abortions are a small part of the services they offer. So they treat offering an asprin as a service and abortion as a service.

But you already know this, as we went throught this on a previous thread...


And as we have on all these threads, not one federal taxpayer penny goes to abortions from Planned Parenthood. They do many other things, so another wrong, and, well, nevermind, he didnt get anything right, we have been thru this, nutsuckers gotta quit rebooting every day and starting at the same old lies and pretending that its new, and they are not the buffoons and they know the score and if it wasnt for nutsuckers we would be in trouble.

Uh, nutsuckers are at the root of the troubles.


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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:29:45 AM   
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I notice you had to say republicans are blocking democracy...


So are the democrats blocking it for sanders. But anyway, I don't care much about hills or sanders on that end.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:29:48 AM   
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Why do you expect more from morons than they are capable of?

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:32:55 AM   
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well if everyone was FOR donald trump, it wouldnt be a democracy. DO you ever think?


Main stream media exaggerating again. If majority chooses their leader. They just gotta live with the chosen leader for just 4 years, before they can vote again. It's not like a President can just turn dictator in the US, and cancel all future elections.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:35:25 AM   
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Five deputies who escorted sucker-punched protester at Trump rally have been disciplined
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/03/16/deputies-suspended-following-failures-to-act-at-trump-rally-in-north-carolina/?tid=sm_fb


Five sheriff’s deputies in North Carolina have been suspended without pay following a Donald Trump rally where a protester was sucker-punched as he was being escorted out, the Cumberland County Sheriff’s Office said Wednesday.

Videos recorded at the March 9 rally in Fayetteville, N.C., showed a Trump supporter assaulting an anti-Trump protester, who was then detained by numerous uniformed men as his assailant walked away.

“The actions of the deputies and their failures to act in situations such as that which occurred during the Trump rally at the Crown Coliseum have never been and will not ever be tolerated under the policies of this office,” Sheriff Earl Butler said in a statement.

[Trump supporter charged after sucker-punching protester at North Carolina rally]

Deputies were escorting the African-American protester, later identified as Rakeem Jones, out of the arena. The audience booed and the protester extended his middle finger.

As Jones walked toward the exit, a man, who appeared to be white, emerged and punched him in the face.

“Boom, he caught me,” Jones told The Post in a telephone interview. “After I get it, before I could even gain my thoughts, I’m on the ground getting escorted out.”

John Franklin McGraw, 78, was not detained at the time. He was charged the following day with assault and disorderly conduct.

Jones told NBC affiliate WRAL that “I thought I was being arrested” by the deputies after being punched. “I saw, later on, that [McGraw] went back to his seat so I am trying to figure out why was he able to go back to his seat,” he said.

Three of the deputies have been demoted in rank and suspended for five days. The two others were suspended for three days.

Butler said the deputies were being disciplined for “unsatisfactory performance and failing to discharge the duties and policies” of the department.

“We regret that any of the circumstances at the Trump rally occurred, and we regret that we have had to investigate all of these matters,” Butler said. “Yet, it is our duty and responsibility to do justice, and to carefully examine not only the actions of others, but our own actions to ensure that the law and our policies are justly and fairly enforced based in principle and without other influences.”

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:36:10 AM   
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Thats true, and we will not have to worry about it, Trump will be back to nobody but a criminal asshole status in November.

The guy's a loser.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:39:46 AM   
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I notice you had to say republicans are blocking democracy...


So are the democrats blocking it for sanders. But anyway, I don't care much about hills or sanders on that end.

you are an idiot

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:41:15 AM   
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Hitler was a monster cinnamon. But in the same era there was another monster called Josef Stalin although it is very hard to get death totals for him 3-60million. Let’s call it 10 million seems almost a frivolous statement by me :(

Sometimes when I get bored I am one of these people who randomly click on anything from cosmic muffins to word wars or to refresh my very bad memory.

Even for world war two it is very hard to get deaths attributed to the war, disease and famine of that time. 80 million, 120 million I read elsewhere. The figure is so enormous i cannot imagine it other than a number I cannot get my head around.

My thoughts of buffoonery (trump) are the same as they were on Thatcher – she had far more brains though.

He is no Hitler, or Stalin
He is an archaic relic that belongs in a bygone era before the suffragette movement etc
curiously that predates world war 2 and some of one.

Even in the cold war era the soviet union of olde was not stupid to press the button. And they were so very paranoid regarding a first strike. Only in the last few years do I now understand the Americans were equally so – and nowadays American paranoia is out of control.

And you had JFK stand off with Nikita Khrushchev I think it was him not sure.

And thatchers and the Falklands and yes the island belong to the UK kinda how far does the world go back with this stuff eg native Americans....land belongs to mother earth I usually argue.

is it fair to compare him to Hitler, or thatcher to Hitler, and what of pol pot and all other leaders of the monster variety.

it depends on how you define a monster,..is it by casualties of war, how many poor and ill their policies kill, not lifting a finger to stop atrocities in Africa which have been going on for millennia and rarely make the news.

I will leave this post there personally I think he will never get in office. Race is still a bit tight to call cruz isnt that far behind and your delegate system, super delegate sys confuses me still.

How would he deal with conflict across the world stage I cannot help but wonder. I think that is my main point and my secondary point is how is a monster defined. is it me? I could stop smoking and give that money to people who need it more, dying of starvation. Am I not in many ways a monster...i could easily argue. BOO hehe

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:41:55 AM   
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well if everyone was FOR donald trump, it wouldnt be a democracy. DO you ever think?


Main stream media exaggerating again. If majority chooses their leader. They just gotta live with the chosen leader for just 4 years, before they can vote again. It's not like a President can just turn dictator in the US, and cancel all future elections.


Mainstream media, LMFAO
you are sucking the rhetoric down like a dying man given a glass of water.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:53:51 AM   
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Deputies were escorting the African-American protester, later identified as Rakeem Jones, out of the arena. The audience booed and the protester extended his middle finger.

As Jones walked toward the exit, a man, who appeared to be white, emerged and punched him in the face.

“Boom, he caught me,” Jones told The Post in a telephone interview. “After I get it, before I could even gain my thoughts, I’m on the ground getting escorted out.”

John Franklin McGraw, 78, was not detained at the time. He was charged the following day with assault and disorderly conduct.


I hope Mr. McGraw gets swift and appropriate justice.

Was anyone else surprised that a 78 year old man could punch Jones in the face and knock him to the ground?


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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 8:58:10 AM   
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prove it fido, go ahead, prove it, you cant, and havent, ever.


Planned Parenthood Federation of America claims that the 665 clinics run by its affiliates[1] provide a “wide range” of health care as justification for taxpayers providing more than 40 percent of their funding, and that abortion is a small proportion of their services.[2] Yet, data show that Planned Parenthood Federation of America is the country’s largest abortion provider with affiliates performing more than 300,000 abortions per year, which amounts to approximately one out of every three in the country.[3]

How Does Planned Parenthood Calculate Its Claims About Its Abortion Services?
Although Planned Parenthood Federation of America reportedly requires all affiliates to have at least one clinic that performs abortions,[4] Planned Parenthood’s annual report does not identify the number of affiliated clinics that provide abortion services or how much of Planned Parenthood’s total revenue results from abortions. Instead, the report claims that abortions account for only 3 percent of the medical services Planned Parenthood affiliates provide.[5]

How does the Planned Parenthood annual report arrive at the 3 percent figure? The calculation counts each “discrete clinical interaction” as a separate “medical service,” meaning simple tests or routine provision of birth control are given the same weight as surgical or chemical abortions.[6] For example, if a woman in the course of a year receives a free condom, a pregnancy test, a sexually transmitted infection (STI) test, and an abortion, Planned Parenthood would say abortion was only 25 percent of the services provided.

Even with Planned Parenthood’s broad definition of “medical service,” data reported in the organization’s annual report suggest that roughly 12 percent of people who received a service from Planned Parenthood affiliates received an abortion during the reporting year.[7]

Despite a nearly 20 percent decline in the number of abortions in the country between 2000 and 2011,[8] the number of abortions Planned Parenthood performed during that time increased from 197,070 to 333,964, thereby more than doubling its share of the abortion market from 15 percent in 2000 to 32 percent in 2011,[9] the latest year for which national data are available.

Planned Parenthood affiliates perform about 20 abortions for every prenatal care visit and about 200 abortions for every adoption referral based on the approximately 300,000 abortions they perform each year.[10]

Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Government Subsidies
Combined federal, state, and local government funding has increased from $203 million (30 percent of Planned Parenthood’s consolidated revenue) during its fiscal year 2000–2001 to $528 million (41 percent of revenue) during 2013–2014.[11] Planned Parenthood’s annual report does not provide a breakdown of federal versus state funding or the exact government grants, contracts, and reimbursements it receives.

A Congressional Budget Office (CBO) analysis released in September 2015, however, shows that the organization’s affiliates received approximately $60 million of taxpayer money under Title X of the Public Health Services Act, and $390 million through federal payments under Medicaid in 2013.[12] The federal government generally provides reimbursement for 90 percent of the cost of “family planning services” and products covered under Medicaid, while states provide the remaining 10 percent.[13]

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 9:03:43 AM   
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Was anyone else surprised that a 78 year old man could punch Jones in the face and knock him to the ground?


Why would anyone be surprised that a sucker punch could knock someone to the ground?

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 9:05:33 AM   
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Was anyone else surprised that a 78 year old man could punch Jones in the face and knock him to the ground?


nope

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 9:09:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

prove it fido, go ahead, prove it, you cant, and havent, ever.


Planned Parenthood Federation of America claims that the 665 clinics run by its affiliates[1] provide a “wide range” of health care as justification for taxpayers providing more than 40 percent of their funding, and that abortion is a small proportion of their services.[2] Yet, data show that Planned Parenthood Federation of America is the country’s largest abortion provider with affiliates performing more than 300,000 abortions per year, which amounts to approximately one out of every three in the country.[3]

How Does Planned Parenthood Calculate Its Claims About Its Abortion Services?
Although Planned Parenthood Federation of America reportedly requires all affiliates to have at least one clinic that performs abortions,[4] Planned Parenthood’s annual report does not identify the number of affiliated clinics that provide abortion services or how much of Planned Parenthood’s total revenue results from abortions. Instead, the report claims that abortions account for only 3 percent of the medical services Planned Parenthood affiliates provide.[5]

How does the Planned Parenthood annual report arrive at the 3 percent figure? The calculation counts each “discrete clinical interaction” as a separate “medical service,” meaning simple tests or routine provision of birth control are given the same weight as surgical or chemical abortions.[6] For example, if a woman in the course of a year receives a free condom, a pregnancy test, a sexually transmitted infection (STI) test, and an abortion, Planned Parenthood would say abortion was only 25 percent of the services provided.

Even with Planned Parenthood’s broad definition of “medical service,” data reported in the organization’s annual report suggest that roughly 12 percent of people who received a service from Planned Parenthood affiliates received an abortion during the reporting year.[7]

Despite a nearly 20 percent decline in the number of abortions in the country between 2000 and 2011,[8] the number of abortions Planned Parenthood performed during that time increased from 197,070 to 333,964, thereby more than doubling its share of the abortion market from 15 percent in 2000 to 32 percent in 2011,[9] the latest year for which national data are available.

Planned Parenthood affiliates perform about 20 abortions for every prenatal care visit and about 200 abortions for every adoption referral based on the approximately 300,000 abortions they perform each year.[10]

Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Government Subsidies
Combined federal, state, and local government funding has increased from $203 million (30 percent of Planned Parenthood’s consolidated revenue) during its fiscal year 2000–2001 to $528 million (41 percent of revenue) during 2013–2014.[11] Planned Parenthood’s annual report does not provide a breakdown of federal versus state funding or the exact government grants, contracts, and reimbursements it receives.

A Congressional Budget Office (CBO) analysis released in September 2015, however, shows that the organization’s affiliates received approximately $60 million of taxpayer money under Title X of the Public Health Services Act, and $390 million through federal payments under Medicaid in 2013.[12] The federal government generally provides reimbursement for 90 percent of the cost of “family planning services” and products covered under Medicaid, while states provide the remaining 10 percent.[13]


Would you happen to have a cite for this? You have been caught numerous times fudging the data. It is not that we think you might lie it is that we know you lie.

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