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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 12:43:36 AM   
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then you have no idea what democracy is then. Because I'm exercising my right to freely debate the merits of the candidates that are currently running.

In a democracy we have the right to go up against Hillary, Trump, or a cosmic muffin if they are not in line with our personal values, and peaceably and respectfully vocalize those differences to others. And listen to what they have to say as well ultimately either agreeing or agree to disagree.

That is sooooooo democracy at work.


Nope, it's blocking democracy, because the Republicans are gonna make sure Trump doesn't get elected EVEN if it's the people's choice.
Protestors trying to disrupt all Trump's events to prevent him from giving his speeches anymore is blocking democracy too.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 2:26:34 AM   
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then you have no idea what democracy is then. Because I'm exercising my right to freely debate the merits of the candidates that are currently running.

In a democracy we have the right to go up against Hillary, Trump, or a cosmic muffin if they are not in line with our personal values, and peaceably and respectfully vocalize those differences to others. And listen to what they have to say as well ultimately either agreeing or agree to disagree.

That is sooooooo democracy at work.


Nope, it's blocking democracy, because the Republicans are gonna make sure Trump doesn't get elected EVEN if it's the people's choice.
Protestors trying to disrupt all Trump's events to prevent him from giving his speeches anymore is blocking democracy too.


LOL..... Trump has blocked his own "democracy" by being a complete waffling crank bait. His incitement of anger is his mistake.,..
Because people are becoming as much angry at him as he's trying to incite against others.
He's Dredging up the worst.... And those are people he can't control with reason.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 3:37:19 AM   
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Lol shows just how little you know.good god cd, are you in line for a sainthood?

Already a saint...

Still waiting for the articles about those Hillary and/or Bernie rallies disrupted by protestors from the right.




I have the feeling it's going to be a long wait.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 3:41:02 AM   
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LOL..... Trump has blocked his own "democracy" by being a complete waffling crank bait. His incitement of anger is his mistake.,..


This is where I always disagree with the left view! Leftist blame cartoonist for inciting muslims to violence by drawing muhammad cartoons.

And this is exactly the same reasoning.

I don't think any of the violence going on is Trump's fault at all. I think there is a huge movement to shut him down. And I think it's a whole conspiracy to incite these millennials to stir up trouble at his events and then blame him for it.

And there shouldn't be any movement to stop any candidate from getting elected. That's disrespecting and interfering with majority choice.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 3:53:49 AM   
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All these people ganging up and going against Trump is soooo anti-democracy.

If people believes in democracy then they should just relax and respect the majority choice.

It may or may not be Trump.


A nazi who claims to be from singapore preaching democracy roflmfao

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 3:57:40 AM   
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A nazi who claims to be from singapore preaching democracy roflmfao

I think my country is having more democracy than yours now. We have people with outrageous views, and they don't get shut down or prevented from holding their rallies. People just simply ignore them and don't turn up for their rallies, those that don't like what the politician is saying. Like I can't imagine a group of minority people who feels strongly against one candidate, keep going all out to disrupt their rallies and events. If we don't like someone, we don't give them attention.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 4:10:37 AM   
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And there shouldn't be any movement to stop any candidate from getting elected. That's disrespecting and interfering with majority choice.



I agree with you on that but let me put a few theoretical examples of why some people shouldn't be able to become candidates to begin with.
warning: they are a bit extreme and in no way I want to imply Donald Tramp fits any of those categories.


if Adolf Hitler wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?
if a xenophobic male supremacist wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?
if somebody that believes in torture and (sexual) slavery wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?
if a convicted pedophile wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 5:12:08 AM   
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if Adolf Hitler wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?
if a xenophobic male supremacist wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?
if somebody that believes in torture and (sexual) slavery wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?
if a convicted pedophile wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?

Look, it's democracy. So if majority wants one of these type of folks elected. Then that's what democracy is about.

Democracy isn't about right or wrong. It's about what majority wants. Who majority wants on top.

What is right or wrong keeps evolving and changing with cultures as well. And that will impact the type of person who will be elected.

Minorities are blocking democracy if they are gonna do everything possible to sabotage a fair election to suit their personal preferences.


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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 5:15:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		And its pretty obvious that Reichsfuhrer Drumpf is not one representing any majority of anything.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 5:15:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		looks like him not giving his speech shows some criminals. This is a 12 minute video of the cancelled Chicago rally. Personally the guy who got on the podium should have been pushed to the ground and handcuffed, And escorted out. They let him go and he is shown again causing chaos. Hmmmmmm
http://youtu.be/2gw3d3eL30g



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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 5:16:48 AM   
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And its pretty obvious that Reichsfuhrer Drumpf is not one representing any majority of anything.

I can't speak for the whole of the US now. But going by the votes his getting. At least his getting majority of Republican members support at the moment.

I'd go with actual stats with actual votes to decide whether the majority feels his the best representation or not.

Mainstream media I feel, is often very bias and want to influence people's decision. Instead of just emotionless reporting facts. They keep putting their own sensational and emotional spin on it to lead people to what they want people to think.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 5:23:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		The republican party is actually a minority. Nutsuckers are the minority of that party and holding it hostage. look at the delegates and the numbers of votes and you will see that Hillary tops Drumpfmeister by around 30%.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 5:29:33 AM   
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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 5:33:17 AM   
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Mainstream media I feel, is often very bias and want to influence people's decision. Instead of just emotionless reporting facts. They keep putting their own sensational and emotional spin on it to lead people to what they want people to think.



Oh, ya THINK?

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 5:42:43 AM   
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The republican party is actually a minority. Nutsuckers are the minority of that party and holding it hostage. look at the delegates and the numbers of votes and you will see that Hillary tops Drumpfmeister by around 30%.

All speculation now!
If Trump wasn't favoured by majority, people wouldn't be so worried and trying to disrupt his events or forming coalition to stop him from being the nominee.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 6:12:38 AM   
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And its pretty obvious that Reichsfuhrer Drumpf is not one representing any majority of anything.


As much as I detest Trump and everything he represents I have to say he does seem to be representing a majority of something.

Many people, both on the left and right, in many countries are completely fed up of established career motivated politicians, along with focus groups, spin-doctors, and professional marketing teams, being the only candidates for election.

We can accuse Trump of many things. Bigotry, stupidity, ignorance, racism, sexism, dishonesty, and having that stupid hairstyle thing are all Trump. But he, at least, is there representing himself. He isn't beholden to Sheldon Adelson, or the Koch brothers or some other unelected lord who intends to run the government with a proxy puppet president.

As absolutely dreadful as he is, Trump is probably the best candidate in the Republican field at the moment simply because a vote for Trump really is a vote for Trump. A vote for anyone else (Bush, Rubio, Cruz etc) is a vote for Koch.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 6:45:40 AM   
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And there shouldn't be any movement to stop any candidate from getting elected. That's disrespecting and interfering with majority choice.



I agree with you on that but let me put a few theoretical examples of why some people shouldn't be able to become candidates to begin with.
warning: they are a bit extreme and in no way I want to imply Donald Tramp fits any of those categories.


if Adolf Hitler wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?
if a xenophobic male supremacist wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?
if somebody that believes in torture and (sexual) slavery wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?
if a convicted pedophile wanted to become president, would you be fine with that?


Yes to all.

There is a difference between wanting to become president and being the POTUS.

We have it laid out in the constitution for who is eligible to become POTUS. Hitler, of course, would not qualify because he is Austrian. But Zombie Hitler can want to be all he likes.

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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 6:54:28 AM   
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Lol shows just how little you know.good god cd, are you in line for a sainthood?

Already a saint...

Still waiting for the articles about those Hillary and/or Bernie rallies disrupted by protestors from the right.




I have the feeling it's going to be a long wait.

when you can actually start a thread and give more than your opinion on posters, and not just shitting on a thread and then fly off...I may take either of you seriously.

CD, you arent owed a response....you dont command the respect, or the credibility to get me to respond to your idiocies, as we are not discussing violent rhetoric.
open your own bloody thread.
I could just as easily suggest that protesters at trump rallies are paid to get beat up...by trump
Prove Im wrong
you are a dipshit.


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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 6:56:47 AM   
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All these people ganging up and going against Trump is soooo anti-democracy.

If people believes in democracy then they should just relax and respect the majority choice.

It may or may not be Trump.

well if everyone was FOR donald trump, it wouldnt be a democracy. DO you ever think?


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RE: Trump's speeches criminal? Very possibly! - 3/17/2016 7:00:24 AM   
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There's still a chance.....

BLOOMBERG, SAVE US!!

Right add a man who wants government to be so big it can tell you what size sodas you can drink.

from a party that wants government so small it can fit inside a vagina. oh thats right, they want to control women and their bodies, like that is "small" government.
They seem to be spending an awful lot of money on forcing women to have children.
How many bills, how many investigations, how many places shut down.
Small government my arse.

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