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Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 12:04:15 AM   
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this is hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI



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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 12:48:00 AM   
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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 1:31:22 AM   
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Of course, the real question is - why aren't bernie sanders PAC's running this footage.

I'm hillary clinton - and I'm prof nafta...

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 1:41:04 AM   
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Or. A liar, a cheat, a traitor who's sold out American resources to foreign companies (your uranium is now owned by Russia) and who sacks any honest staff members or intimidated young women who her husband molested.
Hey guys you're going to get the government you deserve unless these idiots are stopped soon.
Just sayin'
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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 5:45:49 AM   
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this is hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI




I didn't find it funny. I agree with the previous post. It's pretty sad. I don't know why, but I just can't hate or ridicule Hilary Clinton. I could never support her for elected office, for two reasons:

1) Honesty - She lies like a Republican - and is equally corrupt
2) Judgment - She always demonstrates poor judgment

However, I just can't bring myself to hate or ridicule her.

I am not an ideologue, and would support a candidate from any party who actually had some substantive, workable policy ideas, but I must admit, I must be biased toward Hilary.

The MANY Republicans that fail miserably on 1 and 2 above, I ridicule to the extreme, but Hilary, I just shake my head and feel sad. That being said, I have ridiculed incompetent Democrats (e.g. Nancy Pelosi) before. I just feel sorry for Hilary.


I think it is because of the public humiliation she went through during the Monica years.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 6:02:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		No news here. Yes, I agree that we elect liars. Don't know of anyone that has occupied the white house that wasn't a liar, since Truman, with the possible exception of Ford and Carter. Even Truman as did Wilson, waited until after they were out of office to tell us how much they regretted doing a lot of what they did, yet...did it anyway.

Now would we prefer that we be told that the reason we invaded a country, resulting in many 1,000's of deaths, ruined it, broke it up, created chaos, because it was a 'slam dunk' that they had a nuke weapons program ? Would we rather be told that we needed to stay 10+ years in Afghan. after the Taliban was long gone. How about the 'Obama deception' becoming GWB II ?

Look, I cringe when I watch this link just as I cringe when I watch videos that are available for the last 40 years but I am telling you kinkroids, it doesn't matter who becomes president. Just wait, no matter Trump, Cruz, Sanders or Clinton, they are figureheads and will do what they need to do...to stay alive.



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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 10:56:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight or did she only lie a mere 13 minutes over 14 years? realone cannot count, and neither can I. Or you may be one of buffoons minions, recently escaped from the apery, seeking to garner half a dozen votes from here for king of the monkey people.

But, heh, I liked seeing her squirm - turned me on a little actually.


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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 12:15:37 PM   
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No news here. Yes, I agree that we elect liars. Don't know of anyone that has occupied the white house that wasn't a liar, since Truman, with the possible exception of Ford and Carter. Even Truman as did Wilson, waited until after they were out of office to tell us how much they regretted doing a lot of what they did, yet...did it anyway.


Even the most cusory reading of amerikan history will show that from george washington the rapist/murderer, to the present eloquent, big eared fuckstick ,none of them have ever been other than liars cheats and thieves.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 12:35:25 PM   
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Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight or did she only lie a mere 13 minutes over 14 years? realone cannot count, and neither can I. Or you may be one of buffoons minions, recently escaped from the apery, seeking to garner half a dozen votes from here for king of the monkey people.

But, heh, I liked seeing her squirm - turned me on a little actually.



She has lied consistently for over two decades.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 12:49:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Would we all not be in a sorry state if we could never change our way of thinking? I can honestly say that my views on many of the hot issues of today have changed over the years... I hope for the better.

We are a continually evolving society with constantly changing values and I find no fault with changing my mind. We are all victims of our upbringing and peer pressure and should be congratulated for overcoming our prejudices not necessarily condemned for wrongful thinking of the past. What we think and do today forward is what should count. Mrs. Clinton certainly does have some convincing to do but it is up to us to be sure she does the right thing if elected.

I personally think she is sincere and is still a far better choice than any of the Republican candidates. Just realize no one is perfect... that includes you and I.

Finally I have always wondered why people cannot just admit their mistakes... detail how they will change... then let the chips fall where they may.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 1:31:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Liberals excell at electing candidates that lie. Bill Clinton was praised for how well he lied. Hillary, not so much. And Barry Obama is a pathological liar. He couldn't tell the truth if his daughters lives depended on it. i.e. "If you like your doctor. You can keep your doctor."

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 1:35:10 PM   
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Liberals excell at electing candidates that lie. Bill Clinton was praised for how well he lied. Hillary, not so much. And Barry Obama is a pathological liar. He couldn't tell the truth if his daughters lives depended on it. i.e. "If you like your doctor. You can keep your doctor."


Even the most cusory reading of amerikan history will show that from george washington the rapist/murderer, to the present eloquent, big eared fuckstick ,none of them have ever been other than liars cheats and thieves.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 2:02:38 PM   
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Would we all not be in a sorry state if we could never change our way of thinking? I can honestly say that my views on many of the hot issues of today have changed over the years... I hope for the better.

We are a continually evolving society with constantly changing values and I find no fault with changing my mind. We are all victims of our upbringing and peer pressure and should be congratulated for overcoming our prejudices not necessarily condemned for wrongful thinking of the past. What we think and do today forward is what should count. Mrs. Clinton certainly does have some convincing to do but it is up to us to be sure she does the right thing if elected.

I personally think she is sincere and is still a far better choice than any of the Republican candidates. Just realize no one is perfect... that includes you and I.

Finally I have always wondered why people cannot just admit their mistakes... detail how they will change... then let the chips fall where they may.

Butch



Epic fail butch.

Did you watch the video at all? Of course not.

She is going around telling people time after time - no she hasn't changed her position. Yes she's been consistent. It simply isn't true.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 2:43:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did watch it and no I did not see her lying... what I saw was her stating her position today and others trying to say she is lying about her position today because of her position in the past.

I will admit to some of the same positions. At one time i wondered why gays could not be satisfied with civil unions that guaranteed the same legal rights as those of a traditional marriage... I was wrong and came to realize this and have since changed my mind. And if asked my political position on gay marriage it would be different than my position just a few years ago... not a lie...different. AND it would be my position today... now it would be up to others to determine if i am sincere.


Butch

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 2:51:12 PM   
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Liberals excell at electing candidates that lie.

If only we could have recruited Nixon, Reagan, or Bush 43 . . .

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 3:01:57 PM   
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I did watch it and no I did not see her lying... what I saw was her stating her position today and others trying to say she is lying about her position today because of her position in the past.

I will admit to some of the same positions. At one time i wondered why gays could not be satisfied with civil unions that guaranteed the same legal rights as those of a traditional marriage... I was wrong and came to realize this and have since changed my mind. And if asked my political position on gay marriage it would be different than my position just a few years ago... not a lie...different. AND it would be my position today... now it would be up to others to determine if i am sincere.


Butch



So you didn't see her say at :21 that she hadn't changed her position.
Or at 1:12 where she accuses Terry Gross (liberal) of playing with her words because she hasn't changed her position on gay marriage.
Or 2:33 where she denies saying on one hand she is a liberal and on the other a moderate.
Or at 3:49 where she says the state department had 95% of her email - and the state department IG says they have less than 1%.
Or bill clinton saying at 5:14 that no, he didn't send emails to hillary, contradicting her.

I don't have the stomach to document her lies further.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 3:17:36 PM   
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this is hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI




Let me see if I understand....

....If a person is given a better argument on a political topic then they have at current, they are not allowed to change their mind?

Sounds like the thinking of an individual whom has neither the intelligence nor education to think for themselves on anything. You know, like a conservative?

Things change over time. How many Americans would favor enslaving blacks? Or disallowing women the right to vote? You'll find a few hardcore conservatives that share these ideals; yet the majority of Americans have changed their views. Mr. Romney, Mr. Reagan, and Mr. McCain have all at one time or another changed their viewpoints. All of them ran for the White House. Your big guy Mr. Trump, has changed his stance on a number of things over time.

Frankly RealOne, your argument is silly at best and hypocritical at worst.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 3:21:27 PM   
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Liberals excell at electing candidates that lie. Bill Clinton was praised for how well he lied. Hillary, not so much. And Barry Obama is a pathological liar. He couldn't tell the truth if his daughters lives depended on it. i.e. "If you like your doctor. You can keep your doctor."


I recall former US President George W. Bush stating that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction. So much, that we could fill four Wal-Mart Super Stores to the brim!. Still waiting, thirteen years later for any conservatives to produce the evidence. I would like to see the type, kind, number, and exact location (down to the the square milometer). If he wasn't lying, then it should be cake to produce this information, right Mr. Hypnocrite?

I still have the same doctor now as I did before the ACA took effect.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 3:24:04 PM   
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I did watch it and no I did not see her lying... what I saw was her stating her position today and others trying to say she is lying about her position today because of her position in the past.

I will admit to some of the same positions. At one time i wondered why gays could not be satisfied with civil unions that guaranteed the same legal rights as those of a traditional marriage... I was wrong and came to realize this and have since changed my mind. And if asked my political position on gay marriage it would be different than my position just a few years ago... not a lie...different. AND it would be my position today... now it would be up to others to determine if i am sincere.


Butch

So you didn't see her say at :21 that she hadn't changed her position.
Or at 1:12 where she accuses Terry Gross (liberal) of playing with her words because she hasn't changed her position on gay marriage.
Or 2:33 where she denies saying on one hand she is a liberal and on the other a moderate.
Or at 3:49 where she says the state department had 95% of her email - and the state department IG says they have less than 1%.
Or bill clinton saying at 5:14 that no, he didn't send emails to hillary, contradicting her.

I don't have the stomach to document her lies further.


You dont have to vote for her. You can vote for your 'honest and truthful' candidates: Cruz or Trump. But you might start preparing yourself for eight years of Mrs. Clinton.

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RE: Which candidate lied for 13 minutes straight? - 3/20/2016 4:01:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		No because as usual with the republican propaganda machine the conversation was heavily edited... You or I don't know at what time of her position she or they were referring to. If they were talking her position in the campaign then no it had not changed. Hell we can't even be sure what position she was talking about.

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