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mnottertail -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 12:16:48 PM)

They are guilty of it now, the trump camp including the campaign manager has incited violence on several occasions.





ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 12:18:02 PM)

And yet another who doesn't understand what was said. Like I said before, please pay attention to the context.




Lucylastic -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 12:20:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KenDckey


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: KenDckey


ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
Yet no one was arrested for restraining Trump supporters, and possibly residents, from going about their lawful business.
That's because nobody was restrained. Delay is not restraint.


depends on your reading of the definition

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/restraint

a way of limiting, controlling, or stopping something

Wow...just like the senate and the nomination for the supreme court.[8|]



exactly. The POTUS nominates then under the advise and consent provision of the constitution, they can limit the manner in whatever way they choose, control it and evven stop it.

WHy are the GOP now saying that they wont vote unless the nominee has been approved by the NRA?
THe NRA has decision in a confirmation ? in what law?




mnottertail -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 12:22:14 PM)

In the law of the nutsuckers, catamite to lobbyists and the military-industrial complex.




Phydeaux -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 2:45:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: KenDckey


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: KenDckey


ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
Yet no one was arrested for restraining Trump supporters, and possibly residents, from going about their lawful business.
That's because nobody was restrained. Delay is not restraint.


depends on your reading of the definition

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/restraint

a way of limiting, controlling, or stopping something

Wow...just like the senate and the nomination for the supreme court.[8|]



exactly. The POTUS nominates then under the advise and consent provision of the constitution, they can limit the manner in whatever way they choose, control it and evven stop it.

WHy are the GOP now saying that they wont vote unless the nominee has been approved by the NRA?
THe NRA has decision in a confirmation ? in what law?


Are you really that obtuse? Because the GOP doesn't want to change the balance on the court for gun owning rights.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 3:29:12 PM)

FR. If you are blocking the road, you are breaking the law. Your politics are immaterial.




BamaD -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 3:40:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

They are guilty of it now, the trump camp including the campaign manager has incited violence on several occasions.



What happened to innocent until convicted in a court of law?




mnottertail -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 4:11:12 PM)

That shit is nutsucker shit when they are in violation. It doesnt count for Benghazi benghazi benghazi, emails, and any host of other issues. Say gun control, which aint happening. Voter fraud, welfare lazies.

It is clear that people are exercising a first amendment right, and nutsuckers are violently beating them, I can watch a video just like anyone else.

But it is not clear that 'blocking' a road is a violation, pedestrians have the right-of-way.






ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 4:21:10 PM)

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If you are blocking the road, you are breaking the law. Your politics are immaterial.

Quite possibly, but not the law the OP suggested.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 4:22:16 PM)

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pedestrians have the right-of-way

Only in designated areas.




PeonForHer -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 4:26:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Hello Peon

No more than any other democracy in the free world...certainly you are not going to say your country of origin is not polarized when it comes to politics.

I think the only real difference in America today, and much of the modern world as well, as opposed to 50 years ago is simply the advent of instant access and exchange of information, right or wrong. This allows opinion to spread almost instantaneously where in the past it may have taken weeks even months. This increases the apparent turmoil and the impression of a consensus that is not necessarily true. News media seem to pick the loudest voices and the most sensational stories giving credence and false impressions of community thought.

Butch


Maybe the instantly-communicated view is actually the 'truer' view, though. Actually, strike that: I've no idea what 'truer' really means in this context.

As for the news media - they once had a much bigger role in forming opinion - and could dampen it, too, when required. Perhaps this side of the Pond the latter was truer than it was that side: our media were forever wagging their fingers at 'badly-behaved citizens'. The BBC was always the finest exemplar. But people are taking less and less notice of them ....

I read recently that, according to some research, nowadays the suggestion is people are more likely to form their views from what their pals say on social networks like Facebook than they are from the news media. People have pointed to the Arab Spring as one of the major results.

The social control that once existed, and was taken for granted, is certainly decaying. It's no longer a genial game of cricket between two long-established teams of respected chaps in either red or blue caps, any more.




PeonForHer -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 4:39:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

But it is not clear that 'blocking' a road is a violation, pedestrians have the right-of-way.



Whatever. I can't see the police arresting lots of people for a minor infraction and risking a massive riot; then, later, fielding First Amendment charges levelled against them. Put it this way, if I were a police commissioner, I'd think 'Fuck that. Who needs it?' and instruct my underlings accordingly. The Thin Blue Line can only do so much.






mnottertail -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 4:43:56 PM)

There is a vast difference in the textures and flavors in your brain between:

And tonight in the news; Sheriff Quigley, while out looking for deer shiners; found four mar ha ju ana smokers. They were immediately arrested.
The official news from the Whitehouse, through a witehouse newsmans spokesmans aid:
Richard Nixon said in a speech to congress today, in front of Spiro, and I quote, "They are jailed"
delivered by a Chet Huntley or a Walter Cronkite or a Edward R Murrow......and:

Jesus Christ!!!! Obama is going to take your guns away, and he is embarrassing us in front of the world by making nutsuckers look stupid when they brought Ebola into this country thru Texas and told that useless fucking cunt of a BiBi Netanyahu to Fuck OFF.





KenDckey -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 4:44:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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If you are blocking the road, you are breaking the law. Your politics are immaterial.

Quite possibly, but not the law the OP suggested.

I gave you the statute which one would you prefer?




kdsub -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 4:48:30 PM)

In and with personal experience in close proximity to Ferguson Mo... no... instant communication is NEVER right.

Butch




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 4:59:28 PM)

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I gave you the statute which one would you prefer?

No, you gave the wrong statute




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 5:01:10 PM)

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Whatever. I can't see the police arresting lots of people for a minor infraction and risking a massive riot; then, later, fielding First Amendment charges levelled against them. Put it this way, if I were a police commissioner, I'd think 'Fuck that. Who needs it?' and instruct my underlings accordingly. The Thin Blue Line can only do so much.

Which is apparently exactly what the cops did.




PeonForHer -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 5:10:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

In and with personal experience in close proximity to Ferguson Mo... no... instant communication is NEVER right.

Butch


You may well be correct. But, unfortunately, the news media pissed away its reputation for being trustworthy as to what is 'true and right' years ago. So, now, what's really beginning to count, most of all, is 'popular propaganda', versus 'media propaganda'. There's no reason to believe that instant communication is any less real and true than that purveyed by the news media. People can just pick their preferred flavour of horseshit, that's all.




BamaD -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 5:22:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: KenDckey


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: KenDckey


ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
Yet no one was arrested for restraining Trump supporters, and possibly residents, from going about their lawful business.
That's because nobody was restrained. Delay is not restraint.


depends on your reading of the definition

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/restraint

a way of limiting, controlling, or stopping something

Wow...just like the senate and the nomination for the supreme court.[8|]



exactly. The POTUS nominates then under the advise and consent provision of the constitution, they can limit the manner in whatever way they choose, control it and evven stop it.

WHy are the GOP now saying that they wont vote unless the nominee has been approved by the NRA?
THe NRA has decision in a confirmation ? in what law?

Would you, in thier position vote for someone PP said was dagerous?
Same thing.




BamaD -> RE: Rally Question (3/21/2016 5:38:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

That shit is nutsucker shit when they are in violation. It doesnt count for Benghazi benghazi benghazi, emails, and any host of other issues. Say gun control, which aint happening. Voter fraud, welfare lazies.

It is clear that people are exercising a first amendment right, and nutsuckers are violently beating them, I can watch a video just like anyone else.

But it is not clear that 'blocking' a road is a violation, pedestrians have the right-of-way.




So innocent until convicted only counts for people you like, which of course means that it counts for nothing when it comes from you.




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