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ImperialPath -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 8:42:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath Since when were you allowed to decide how we spend some of our time? Only if I give "consent", eh? You noticed she is not on my profile and it is recently created? It must be damn frustrating for two of you to search my meager profile and not see who she is, that is what all that means and nothing more. Why don't you trust someone you say you are so close to? When did it become "your" community? I think it is mine. "Us'all" are. I don't share her in case you were to ask. Yes, it is me who described the other side as a BDSM dating site. It was designed to be. "The plot thickens", I like that. Original, right? Nah. Not frustrating. Sometime, a person's profile gives more information to understand where the other person is coming from. Since you are talking about having success with your methods, I was looking for that success. I didn't say I didn't trust my husband, so you're just reaching there. I'm just better at handling my own email. (I also happen to be the better one of us when it comes to social engagements and the like. When people want to meet us, they contact me, because they'll get a better result. I'm the one who tends to pay more attention.) I guess you missed the fact that I said "our" communities. That's also you trying to manipulate what was said. If your methods work for you, that's great. Even if you have this small, but overwhelming amount of women saying that your tactics wouldn't work in their cases. That means, the folks who are still trying to meet people may not do well by using the same measures. Always listen to your target audience. It's true of advertising, marketing, and so many other areas of life. Anyone can recognize a dance and you are dancing. For example, how could it be "our" community if, as you claim, I know nothing about it? "My" tactics? They are male Dom tactics if you accept this thread is a two way conversation. You think when a Dom is ignored by a woman he simply tucks tail and slinks away? In your dreams.

Danemora -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 9:13:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora ~FRing it~ Frankly I think it's high time that folks who think like you learn and accept the meaning of the words "no" and "not interested," OP. No fair dong a free reply and then address a specific person. I suspect I don't need to anymore since I was successful. I wonder if that occurred to you. I'd suggest getting to work on building the bridge to Get The Fuck Over It then, homie Calling your right hand "your girl" doesn't count as being succesful. Just saying

LadyPact -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 9:29:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath Anyone can recognize a dance and you are dancing. For example, how could it be "our" community if, as you claim, I know nothing about it? "My" tactics? They are male Dom tactics if you accept this thread is a two way conversation. You think when a Dom is ignored by a woman he simply tucks tail and slinks away? In your dreams. OK, bro. If your method is not to leave people alone when they've told you to, that's kind of on you. The magical "Dom" label doesn't escape that. I'm not going to say that domineering people are better than asshats. I haven't seen you say anything about being a member of the community, or even willing to tell folks your former screen name, so no way for a person to check.

ReMakeYou -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 10:54:46 AM)
quote: "My" tactics? They are male Dom tactics if you accept this thread is a two way conversation. You think when a Dom is ignored by a woman he simply tucks tail and slinks away? In your dreams. Depends. If a message is flat out ignored, the best case scenario is that there's something going on in her life. Even if it's something mundane as being swamped in messages. You're free to try again later, but understand that if you shoot off another one again too soon that the situation behind her nonresponse is unlikely to have changed. If she says "thanks, but no thanks". being responsible and aware are more important dom qualities than throwing your weight around. A "thanks anyways, good luck to you too" isn't going to get you into too much hot water. Pestering beyond that is a safety warning to anybody who isn't entirely new to the whole scene. It's not even that different from the bar analogue. If you're ignored on an approach, best scenario is that it's too noisy for her to hear you. Try again when the situation has improved. If you're blown off, extricate yourself gracefully lest you come off like an ass to everyone else in the venue. The basic rules don't change just because we're a bunch of pervs.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 11:10:13 AM)
quote: They are male Dom tactics if you accept this thread is a two way conversation. No, they are male asshole tactics quote: You think when a Dom is ignored by a woman he simply tucks tail and slinks away? He does, unless he is an asshole

BitaTruble -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 11:17:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath "My" tactics? They are male Dom tactics if you accept this thread is a two way conversation. Male subs use the exact same tactic. It doesn't work for them the majority of the time either. quote: You think when a Dom is ignored by a woman he simply tucks tail and slinks away? In your dreams. The way you characterize is very telling of your mindset. I've seen enough. Obviously, I've been doing it all wrong. I always thought it was better to give a polite negation but I get it now .. that won't work so, I give up. I will be ignoring all emails from now on unless they are from forum regs. I have been convinced that 'ignore and delete' is the best course of action. Someone online convinced me to change a long standing habit. Will wonders ever cease? ::steps out of 'answering emails is just polite' group and steps into 'ignore them all since it doesn't matter anyway' group:: Thank you, gentlemen for the lesson. The tuition was actually pretty cheap and will no doubt save me oodles of time. [sm=ballgag.gif] Gags all around!

ImperialPath -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 11:22:34 AM)
quote: A "thanks anyways, good luck to you too" isn't going to get you into too much hot water. A second pass is a second pass. This version of the second pass shows her what a great guy you are and gives her an opportunity to signal that you might want to stay where you are, look for visual clues to this. On a cmail second pass using your "tactic" you are forced just to wait for a possible reply to the second pass.

ImperialPath -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 11:27:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora ~FRing it~ Frankly I think it's high time that folks who think like you learn and accept the meaning of the words "no" and "not interested," OP. No fair dong a free reply and then address a specific person. I suspect I don't need to anymore since I was successful. I wonder if that occurred to you. I'd suggest getting to work on building the bridge to Get The Fuck Over It then, homie Calling your right hand "your girl" doesn't count as being succesful. Just saying You are so clever!

ImperialPath -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 11:34:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath Anyone can recognize a dance and you are dancing. For example, how could it be "our" community if, as you claim, I know nothing about it? "My" tactics? They are male Dom tactics if you accept this thread is a two way conversation. You think when a Dom is ignored by a woman he simply tucks tail and slinks away? In your dreams. OK, bro. If your method is not to leave people alone when they've told you to, that's kind of on you. The magical "Dom" label doesn't escape that. I'm not going to say that domineering people are better than asshats. I haven't seen you say anything about being a member of the community, or even willing to tell folks your former screen name, so no way for a person to check. You're still dancing and making shit up. "Leave people alone"? "Harass?" "Legal?". You use strange words to describe what men do and are universally expected to do in social situations. I suggest you stay out of bars or have the local police on stand by for your call. You've not seen me say my screen name? Oh well.

ImperialPath -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 11:35:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath quote: A "thanks anyways, good luck to you too" isn't going to get you into too much hot water. A second pass is a second pass. This version of the second pass shows her what a great guy you are and gives her an opportunity to signal that you might want to stay where you are, look for visual clues to this. On a cmail second pass using your "tactic" you are forced just to wait for a possible reply to the second pass.

Danemora -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 11:51:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath "My" tactics? They are male Dom tactics if you accept this thread is a two way conversation. You think when a Dom is ignored by a woman he simply tucks tail and slinks away? In your dreams. There you have it, new submissive ladies! Number 1 on the list of dominant types you need to run the fuck away from like you were being shot at. The man who will not respect your wishes if you say no, no thank you, not interested, get the fuck away from me, or any other derivative. If he won't respect your wishes, what else won't he respect about you? It's his male Dom tactic after all. Don't pass go. Don't collect $200. I'd tell you to say no, but you can clearly see it doesn't always work when one chooses to not listen to what you say

Danemora -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 11:54:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora ~FRing it~ Frankly I think it's high time that folks who think like you learn and accept the meaning of the words "no" and "not interested," OP. No fair dong a free reply and then address a specific person. I suspect I don't need to anymore since I was successful. I wonder if that occurred to you. I'd suggest getting to work on building the bridge to Get The Fuck Over It then, homie Calling your right hand "your girl" doesn't count as being succesful. Just saying You are so clever! I'm here all week. Tip your waitress well as you make your way to the door. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here

ImperialPath -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 12:24:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath "My" tactics? They are male Dom tactics if you accept this thread is a two way conversation. You think when a Dom is ignored by a woman he simply tucks tail and slinks away? In your dreams. There you have it, new submissive ladies! Number 1 on the list of dominant types you need to run the fuck away from like you were being shot at. The man who will not respect your wishes if you say no, no thank you, not interested, get the fuck away from me, or any other derivative. If he won't respect your wishes, what else won't he respect about you? You guessed it. Nada. Zero. Zilch. I suppose you are right. But I probably should point out that the responses seem to assume this scenario: 1. I see a woman at the bar. 2. I walk up and squeeze in between the fellow she is talking to and herself. 3. I smile vaguely and suggest she wants to be my pin cushion and then have sex with me. 4. She says go away. 5. I ignore her and suggest she does not know what she want. When in actuality the OP subject and "tactic" is this. 1. I see a woman at the bar and catch her eye. 2. She smiles and reaches up to put her hair in place even though it is perfect. I got it. 3. I walk confidently across the room and sit down beside her and introduce myself. 4. She politely nods but realizes I am not married and she likes married guys. 5. She looks away and stares at nothing. I got it. 6. I make a second pass just in case, I say "Your hair caught my eye from across the room, I don't understand how you get it to shine so beautifully under these dim lights. I like that song, would you like to dance? 7. She turns back briefly, cocks her head and looks past me while saying she does not dance and then she turns away again. 8. I finish my drink and notice someone else glancing at me and she has a lovely smile and I could use one right now! 9. I talk to the other woman. or...cmail version 1. I see a woman's profile and her eyes and smile touch me. 2. I read her profile and journal and she seems to be somebody I can relate to. 3. I write her confidently and introduce myself, I tell her what attracted me to her profile, I write about her journals and comment on them positively and how I relate to what she said. I also talk about her hair and her eyes. I talk just a little about myself and was certain to include my best picture. 4. She politely writes back and says I am not married and she likes married guys. 5. I got it. 6. I make a second pass just in case, I say "Your hair caught my eye, I don't understand how you get it to shine so beautifully under those dim lights. I also describe my desires, my history as a Dom and how I think we actually might click if we only give it a little chance, I ask her if she would "like to dance" starting out with a call from me and maybe lunch in town on Saturday noon? 7. She does not write back. 8. I finish my coffee and notice someone else glancing at me from my CS screen and she has a lovely smile and I could use one right now! 9. I write to here and she knows how to dance. As you might guess, I am amused by the first example being portrayed as my "tactic" but need to leave you with these two thoughts: This is not about me and I am talking about a dance.

Danemora -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 12:39:28 PM)
You called it a tactic. I directly quoted you. You said your male Dom tactic is to not tuck your tail between your legs and slink away. You can put lipstick on a pig all day long. But it's still going to be a pig wearing lipstick when you are done. Harassment is still harassment, no matter how you try to pretty it up.

BitaTruble -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 1:20:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath 6. I make a second pass just in case, I say "Your hair caught my eye, I don't understand how you get it to shine so beautifully under those dim lights. I also describe my desires, my history as a Dom and how I think we actually might click if we only give it a little chance, I ask her if she would "like to dance" starting out with a call from me and maybe lunch in town on Saturday noon? The idea of a total stranger writing me and telling me of his desires after I have said no sends me straight to 'ick' as in.. I felt the need to vomit in my mouth just a little bit but I swallowed .. and since I've decided to 'delete unread' as my new SOP for bulk, I'm going to be even more pro-active and go ahead and do preemptive blocks for non-bulk so as to avoid having that dating style used on me. I haven't been single for two decades and I've barely started to put my toe back to water so this has all been eye opening for me but I certainly can answer the question as to 'why' I will treat my email the way I do now.. it's because of this thread. OP - if the purpose of your thread was to get creative, single women who actually responded to emails to stop responding to emails.. you have been successful at least once. To: all you single, available males out there I'm not going off the market.. it's just.. I'll tell you what.. I'll have my people contact your people. Yeah, yeah.. we'll do lunch.. for sure. :D edited to add: Crap.. I'll have to change my sig line. Apparently people 'are' fungible. Well, I have plenty of time to think about it since I don't have any bulk mail today. [8D]

ImperialPath -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 1:21:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora You called it a tactic. I directly quoted you. You said your male Dom tactic is to not tuck your tail between your legs and slink away. You can put lipstick on a pig all day long. But it's still going to be a pig wearing lipstick when you are done. Harassment is still harassment, no matter how you try to pretty it up. Okay. You are certain the two nine step examples are a form of harassment. "I got it". quote: When in actuality the OP subject and "tactic" is this. 1. I see a woman at the bar and catch her eye. 2. She smiles and reaches up to put her hair in place even though it is perfect. I got it. 3. I walk confidently across the room and sit down beside her and introduce myself. 4. She politely nods but realizes I am not married and she likes married guys. 5. She looks away and stares at nothing. I got it. 6. I make a second pass just in case, I say "Your hair caught my eye from across the room, I don't understand how you get it to shine so beautifully under these dim lights. I like that song, would you like to dance? 7. She turns back briefly, cocks her head and looks past me while saying she does not dance and then she turns away again. 8. I finish my drink and notice someone else glancing at me and she has a lovely smile and I could use one right now! 9. I talk to the other woman. or...cmail version 1. I see a woman's profile and her eyes and smile touch me. 2. I read her profile and journal and she seems to be somebody I can relate to. 3. I write her confidently and introduce myself, I tell her what attracted me to her profile, I write about her journals and comment on them positively and how I relate to what she said. I also talk about her hair and her eyes. I talk just a little about myself and was certain to include my best picture. 4. She politely writes back and says I am not married and she likes married guys. 5. I got it. 6. I make a second pass just in case, I say "Your hair caught my eye, I don't understand how you get it to shine so beautifully under those dim lights. I also describe my desires, my history as a Dom and how I think we actually might click if we only give it a little chance, I ask her if she would "like to dance" starting out with a call from me and maybe lunch in town on Saturday noon? 7. She does not write back. 8. I finish my coffee and notice someone else glancing at me from my CS screen and she has a lovely smile and I could use one right now! 9. I write to here and she knows how to dance.

Danemora -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 2:48:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath 1. I see a woman's profile and her eyes and smile touch me. 2. I read her profile and journal and she seems to be somebody I can relate to. 3. I write her confidently and introduce myself, I tell her what attracted me to her profile, I write about her journals and comment on them positively and how I relate to what she said. I also talk about her hair and her eyes. I talk just a little about myself and was certain to include my best picture. 4. She politely writes back and says I am not married and she likes married guys. 5. I got it. 6. I make a second pass just in case, I say "Your hair caught my eye, I don't understand how you get it to shine so beautifully under those dim lights. I also describe my desires, my history as a Dom and how I think we actually might click if we only give it a little chance, I ask her if she would "like to dance" starting out with a call from me and maybe lunch in town on Saturday noon? Your scenario is the textbook definition of the very thing I'm talking about. You tried. She said you didn't meet your criteria and turned you down. So you write back talking about your desires, your history as a dom, and asking her to exchange numbers and go out to lunch with the very person she just got done saying no to. Look up "harassment" in your favorite dictionary. Go ahead. Ill wait. The whole pretending you are incredibly dense thing just isn't working.

Danemora -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 4:06:50 PM)
Edit after the time elapsed to add that should have read "she said you don't meet her criteria and turned you down.

ImperialPath -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 6:08:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora quote: ORIGINAL: ImperialPath 1. I see a woman's profile and her eyes and smile touch me. 2. I read her profile and journal and she seems to be somebody I can relate to. 3. I write her confidently and introduce myself, I tell her what attracted me to her profile, I write about her journals and comment on them positively and how I relate to what she said. I also talk about her hair and her eyes. I talk just a little about myself and was certain to include my best picture. 4. She politely writes back and says I am not married and she likes married guys. 5. I got it. 6. I make a second pass just in case, I say "Your hair caught my eye, I don't understand how you get it to shine so beautifully under those dim lights. I also describe my desires, my history as a Dom and how I think we actually might click if we only give it a little chance, I ask her if she would "like to dance" starting out with a call from me and maybe lunch in town on Saturday noon? Your scenario is the textbook definition of the very thing I'm talking about. You tried. She said you didn't meet your criteria and turned you down. So you write back talking about your desires, your history as a dom, and asking her to exchange numbers and go out to lunch with the very person she just got done saying no to. Look up "harassment" in your favorite dictionary. Go ahead. Ill wait. The whole pretending you are incredibly dense thing just isn't working. Hi there! Sorry for the delay. I had to work so I can afford to go to bars and harass women. The overhead related to my perverse hobby is not small. So, you feel the examples I gave are good representations of "harassment" and for some reason you feel I should stop what I am doing and look up the word in order to substantiate the position you have stated already several times, in a repetitive fashion. I'm sorry to say I feel your behavior is intended to harass me with this repetitive attempt to continue with your points even though I obviously have already acknowledged them and understand why you have them. I really do.

Danemora -> RE: Link for submissive women to follow if they would like to respond to this question. (3/29/2016 6:18:48 PM)
One tends to have to repeat herself more than once when the man she is speaking to has his head wedged so firmly up his own ass.

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