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Awareness -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/25/2016 9:46:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: Awareness


Moderator 25 has amply demonstrated exactly the problem with left-wing politics.

Actually mod 25 has shown that this site has little tolerance for punkassmotherfuckers who think they can dance better than she.
Perhaps you ought not to dance with women who's shoe size is larger than yours.[8|]



In this instance, Mod25 is following the guidelines and ToS of this site. Ya know... The stuff we all said was cool when we hit that "I agree" button.


Y'know, it is FUCKING annoying to see you people continually quote ToS when you so clearly have not read it.

Unlike you guys, I DID read it. It's a boilerplate legal document designed to cover the site owner's ass. It includes injunctions against harassment, stalking, child pornography and so on. It explicitly disclaims responsibility for the publishing of 3rd party material (basically what we all write in here).

In fact, the ToS clearly states that "We do not act as a censor of such material. " - from memory, actively censoring material - which is what appears to be happening here - would possibly damage their indemnified standing as censoring and otherwise editing material turns you into a publisher, rather than a service provider. But I digress....

Nothing within the terms of service is relevant here. Nothing. Next time, before referring to it, go read it.






Awareness -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/25/2016 9:49:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Given you don't even understand your own bizarre twisted sense of morality, it takes a stupid level of hubris for you to even begin to think you have any insight into me.

Your posts give all of us a great deal of insight into you.
No, insight is a quality few people possess. It requires empathy, understanding and intelligence. Needless to say, you fall merrily short on all counts.




ManOeuvre -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/25/2016 9:50:32 PM)


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You convey a malicious attitude

The real question isn't whether he can call himself a faggot but whether people like you should use terms like faggot and nigger to maliciously describe others


Milo doesn't simply refer to himself as a faggot in passing. He is on a speaking tour titled the "Dangerous Faggot Tour", and has adopted the phrase as one of his many noms de guerre.

On using the word faggot in this case, it would be about as malicious a description as referring to the hip-hop group NWA without recourse to the acronym... that is to say, not at all.




Awareness -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/25/2016 10:01:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
I love it,he is offended by having a TOS violation being censored.
Don't be stupid. Point out the section of the Terms of Service which I'm violating. Since you're flapping your gums about it, it should be easy to do.




PeonForHer -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 2:31:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Words have no power. That's the entire fucking point. We have a precedence for this in Australia. Australians of Greek & Italian descent were referred to as "wogs".


You are talking crap, Awareness. *Of course* words have power. If they didn't have power, why did you put the word 'fucking' in the sentence 'That's the entire fucking point'? Do you have the written equivalent of Tourette's, or something? Or did you, in fact, think that the word 'fucking' helped to hammer home your vehemence in some way? Why exactly did you use that adjective in that sentence?


That's lyrical flow you ignorant twat. And the word "fucking" has no power. It conveys my attitude, but if anyone thinks the word 'fucking' is an exertion of white, male privilege, they're a fucking loon.


Etc, etc.

God, you're a terminal hot runny fart, aren't you? It was almost impossible to read your self-justifying, fuming wriggling.

OK, OK, Awareness. We get it, we get it. You *must* be right because your opinions are *so much angrier* than everyone else's.




thompsonx -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 2:33:49 AM)

ORIGINAL: Awareness
ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Given you don't even understand your own bizarre twisted sense of morality, it takes a stupid level of hubris for you to even begin to think you have any insight into me.

Your posts give all of us a great deal of insight into you.

No, insight is a quality few people possess. It requires empathy, understanding and intelligence. Needless to say, you fall merrily short on all counts.


Opinions vary




Hillwilliam -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 7:22:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

LOL. Are you a complete idiot? You brought up the n word. If someone can call himself that - so can I. Period end of statement.

It is the constantat habit of punkassmotherfuckers to talk shit..[:D]



Pot, meet kettle.




DominantWrestler -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 9:00:34 AM)

Awareness, every word you spew is malicious. Do you think you fool anyone that the whole topic was not chosen to irritate or anger people?

As for violating ToS, 3.5.1 and the forum guidelines




WickedsDesire -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 9:51:37 AM)

I see nothing wrong with Ops thread, he also used quotes. I see no evidence either of awareness attacking someone sexual orientation




bounty44 -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 9:57:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler

Awareness, every word you spew is malicious. Do you think you fool anyone that the whole topic was not chosen to irritate or anger people?

As for violating ToS, 3.5.1 and the forum guidelines



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3.5.1. Sexual Harassment, Copyright Infringement, Negligence, Gross Negligence, Reckless Conduct, Alienation of Affections (to the extent recognized in any jurisdiction), Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress, Intentional Interference with Contract or Advantageous Business Relationship, Defamation, Statutory Rape, Invasion of Privacy, and Misrepresentation or any claim based on Vicarious Liability for Torts committed by individuals met on or through the Website, including but not limited to fraud, assault, battery, stalking, rape, theft, cheating, perjury, manslaughter, or murder.


exactly what in the above attaches itself to the OP?




Lucylastic -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 10:15:55 AM)

7.3. ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY: You agree and understand that Our Website permits You to use Our services in order to post content and to communicate with other Users. We are entitled to investigate and terminate Your membership if You have misused the Website, or behaved in a way which could be regarded as inappropriate, unlawful, or illegal. The following is a partial, but not exhaustive, list of the types of actions that are illegal or prohibited under this Agreement.
7.3.1. Unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, invasive of another's privacy or right to publicity, or harmful to minors in any way, shape, or form;

Please note the bolded.


Guidelines in the forum section only
state

This isn't a place to insult the kinks, preferences, lifestyles, etc. of others. If you don't like what another person enjoys, rest assured that there are plenty of others out there that probably don't like your activities either. Furthermore, baiting, harassment and personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Regarding the acceptability of various discussion topics - in most cases this will have to be determined based upon the essay in question, the content involved, and its particular form of presentation. Topics which are unacceptable regardless of circumstance include, but are not limited to - pedophilia, bestiality, incest involving minors, necrophilia, snuff and criminal activities.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_72/tm.htm
And havent been changed since 2004.
The tolerance for insulting kinks or orientation has always been low.
As it should be on a kink site.

tolerance on personal attacks and harassment and baiting have historically been up and down depending on the people running the place, even up to and including the freedom allowed in the dungeon.
Since november, the level has diminished to a level never seen before.





dcnovice -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 10:21:12 AM)

"Moderator 25 you are a creepy fucking censoring troll" (from the OP) might just qualify as a personal attack.

And I'm still curious to know whether the claim that M25 is "left-wing" has any grounding in reality.




crazyml -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 10:22:55 AM)

Do you think you could repost it without breaching the TOS?.. or are you just too angry and upset about it all now?




Lucylastic -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 10:39:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

"Moderator 25 you are a creepy fucking censoring troll" (from the OP) might just qualify as a personal attack.

And I'm still curious to know whether the claim that M25 is "left-wing" has any grounding in reality.


I think mod 25 might be above censoring him for that as its still standing, but do you remember when you couldnt comment on ANY moderators actions?
Oh that was wierd




WickedsDesire -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 11:06:12 AM)

He was censored he is allowed the right of reply. Something I never get openly on fetlife for attacking the liars fakes and just about everyone who breaks their sites TOC; CT, mods, members, who do so...odd is it not :)

I am always fascinated when someone genuine attacks a lie and gets footed




Lucylastic -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 11:14:25 AM)

well it depends on your definition of genuine.




Awareness -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 11:16:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

7.3. ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY: You agree and understand that Our Website permits You to use Our services in order to post content and to communicate with other Users. We are entitled to investigate and terminate Your membership if You have misused the Website, or behaved in a way which could be regarded as inappropriate, unlawful, or illegal. The following is a partial, but not exhaustive, list of the types of actions that are illegal or prohibited under this Agreement.
7.3.1. Unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, invasive of another's privacy or right to publicity, or harmful to minors in any way, shape, or form;

Please note the bolded.


Guidelines in the forum section only
state

This isn't a place to insult the kinks, preferences, lifestyles, etc. of others. If you don't like what another person enjoys, rest assured that there are plenty of others out there that probably don't like your activities either. Furthermore, baiting, harassment and personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Regarding the acceptability of various discussion topics - in most cases this will have to be determined based upon the essay in question, the content involved, and its particular form of presentation. Topics which are unacceptable regardless of circumstance include, but are not limited to - pedophilia, bestiality, incest involving minors, necrophilia, snuff and criminal activities.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_72/tm.htm
And havent been changed since 2004.
The tolerance for insulting kinks or orientation has always been low.
As it should be on a kink site.

tolerance on personal attacks and harassment and baiting have historically been up and down depending on the people running the place, even up to and including the freedom allowed in the dungeon.
Since november, the level has diminished to a level never seen before.


Nothing in either the previous thread nor this one falls under that.

That moderator 25 is left-wing is fucking obvious. The censorship was because of identity politics. The word "faggot" in all its forms is an affront to... well... any left wing nut who thinks society is made better by silencing dissenting voices.

Despite their many faults, the right wing tends not to favour censorship of individual words.




Awareness -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 11:19:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Awareness

So. How long has English been your second language?

Since before you were born sweeet cheeks.

It shows. Also, that you think the phrase "punk ass motherfucker" somehow insults anyone other than yourself when you use it.




thompsonx -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 11:30:47 AM)


ORIGINAL: Awareness


ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Awareness

So. How long has English been your second language?

Since before you were born sweeet cheeks.

It shows.


Thank you

Also, that you think the phrase "punk ass motherfucker" somehow insults anyone other than yourself when you use it.

If the foo shits bare it.




LadyPact -> RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits (3/26/2016 11:59:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
He was censored he is allowed the right of reply. Something I never get openly on fetlife for attacking the liars fakes and just about everyone who breaks their sites TOC; CT, mods, members, who do so...odd is it not :)

I am always fascinated when someone genuine attacks a lie and gets footed

You really don't get it, do you?

Everything posted to the forums, your profile, or any part of the site is up to the discretion of being allowed to be posted by the site, itself. There is no "right" to do any dang thing if any agent of Bayshore Software, Inc. (meaning Mods, Admins, etc) chooses to remove it. What you're really looking for is this in section 8.5:

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8.5. Pursuant to the Communications Decency Act ("CDA"), 47 U.S.C. ยง 230(c)(1), and court decisions interpreting the scope of the CDA, You acknowledge and understand that We operate, through the Website, as an interactive computer service provider. Thus, We are immune from, and cannot be held responsible for, claims arising from the publication of third-party content (including third-party User content), appearing on the Website. We do not create such content, and We are not responsible for the publication or remarks of third-parties that may arguably rise to the level of being actionable under federal or state laws including, but not limited to, the publication of material that might be considered defamatory, or violative of privacy or publicity rights. Note that federal law allows Us to remove any content found to be offensive, defamatory, obscene or otherwise violative of Our policies, without impacting Our status as a computer service provider. Nothing contained in this paragraph is intended to limit or alter the immunity from claims provided by Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.


Basically, if they decide that a post about Easter Bunnies violates their policies, they are completely under their rights to remove posts about Easter Bunnies. You have no "right" to sway their decision, and in fact, you have no "right" to challenge their decision, because you agreed to their terms when you signed up. The word you're really looking for is "permissible".

Case in point, a few years back, under a different Administration, it was decided that a few words were no longer allowed on any post. Two of those were "fucktard" and "feminazi". Any posts with those words could be deleted at Moderator discretion. They don't have to tell you that or spell it out for you. All they have to do is decide that yes, they consider something offensive. That's it.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Y'know, it is FUCKING annoying to see you people continually quote ToS when you so clearly have not read it.

Unlike you guys, I DID read it. It's a boilerplate legal document designed to cover the site owner's ass. It includes injunctions against harassment, stalking, child pornography and so on. It explicitly disclaims responsibility for the publishing of 3rd party material (basically what we all write in here).

In fact, the ToS clearly states that "We do not act as a censor of such material. " - from memory, actively censoring material - which is what appears to be happening here - would possibly damage their indemnified standing as censoring and otherwise editing material turns you into a publisher, rather than a service provider. But I digress....

Nothing within the terms of service is relevant here. Nothing. Next time, before referring to it, go read it.

I know you're kidding. By this time, you should be aware of the fact that I'm more familiar with ToS, forum guidelines, and so on than most.









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