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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/26/2016 12:05:07 PM   
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It is the constantat habit of punkassmotherfuckers to talk shit..



Pot, meet kettle.

Perhaps you might list for me the times I have been factually wrong.


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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/26/2016 12:26:33 PM   
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LadyPact Oh dear, do you believe there is something I do not get. They always have a get out of jail clause in the terms and conditions (TOC no matter the site) and the right not to be sued, no matter how many lives their playgrounds lead to ruination. Balance I like. Hitlers not so much. What would you have me do about it?

I will reiterate there is nothing wrong with awareness tthread

Lucylastic I always mean the dictionary definition of it, the word genuine

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/26/2016 12:32:07 PM   
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Just curious... did you make an attempt to talk with the moderator and explain your reasoning? If so what were youy told?

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/26/2016 12:37:47 PM   
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LadyPact Oh dear, do you believe there is something I do not get. They always have a get out of jail clause in the terms and conditions (TOC no matter the site) and the right not to be sued, no matter how many lives their playgrounds lead to ruination. Balance I like. Hitlers not so much. What would you have me do about it?

I will reiterate there is nothing wrong with awareness tthread

I wouldn't have you do anything about it, except understand that said 'get out of jail free card' is exactly why any post can be pulled, whether you agree that it should have been or not. Your opinion on it really doesn't factor into the decision made by the Mod at all.

I also wish that folks would get a grip on the fact that it doesn't automatically imply that the Mod that removed it was leftest. Even the LMIC (Lead Mod In Charge) has to follow any policies adopted by the owner of the site and follow them with the bests interests of the site in mind. It doesn't even mean that said Mod has to AGREE with said policies. It's just that the job requires they enforce them.





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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/26/2016 12:45:53 PM   
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Just to chip in. I have moderated on boards before where I have had to apply sanctions according to policies that I didn't necessarily agree with. It's not about being left or right, it's actually about being a grown up.

As a poster I have also had posts removed under policies that I didn't agree with. And sometimes I threw a right old hissy fit and behaved like a stupid little turd. But as a rule, I find that I got much better long term results by being a grown up about it.




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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/26/2016 12:47:53 PM   
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LadyPact I get all that sighs why mention me. I believe in balance. But you are defending those above and beyond their own rule, or i was just following orders, and that we should like it. I myself beleive this is not a good thing what do you beleive?

Ops thread stands - I guess there is hope....but i storngly suspect its a re thread :(

Good sensible moderation aside. If a moderator breaks any sites TOC do you believe they should have the capacity to moderate and fall back in the get out of jail and fuk you all clause...yet i have seen many on all sites utlise scorched earth policy.



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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/26/2016 1:26:08 PM   
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We made a mistake in removing this thread “Milo Yiannopolous "A Dangerous Faggot". This action was taken due to our incorrect assumption that this posting contained derogatory content directed towards the gay community. In looking carefully at this posting it's apparent that this was not the case.

We do our best to provide an open platform for dialogue and debate on a wide spectrum of issues while at the same time trying to minimize gratuitous attacks on particular individuals or groups. In this case we got it wrong and, to be clear, the decision to remove this content was made by the site itself and not by our moderators.

If in the future, we make similar mistakes kindly point them out to us as was done here. This thread has been restored and moving forwards, we'll try to pause a bit longer before removing content in situations of this character and will try harder to make sure that we make the right call.

Please feel free to voice criticisms you might have of our website at any time. That being said we ask users of our forums to kindly refrain from ad hominem comments directed towards moderators or other users.


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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/26/2016 1:38:22 PM   
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LadyPact I get all that sighs why mention me.

Ummmm... Because I was responding to a comment you made. This is, effectively, a discussion regarding moderation. I addressed the original. Any 'cross talk' on the thread should be perfectly acceptable at this point.

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I believe in balance. But you are defending those above and beyond their own rule, or i was just following orders, and that we should like it. I myself beleive this is not a good thing what do you beleive?

I answer this question all of the time. If I owned this business, I would be doing what was in the best interest of this business. A part of that is enforcing ToS and the forum guidelines. It does not equate to letting everything that the members post to stand.

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Ops thread stands - I guess there is hope....but i storngly suspect its a re thread :(

The original thread that was posted was removed. This thread is being allowed to continue. If I were Mod25 at this point, I'd keep the original thread removed just on principle.

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Good sensible moderation aside. If a moderator breaks any sites TOC do you believe they should have the capacity to moderate and fall back in the get out of jail and fuk you all clause...yet i have seen many on all sites utlise scorched earth policy.

I didn't say anything of the sort. All of the long term posters know that there were two former LMIC that screwed up royal around here. It wasn't over piddly little things like removing threads or pulling posts. I'm talking about some really major stuff and most of the long term members are familiar with the situations. I do happen to think that any of the Admins should be held to a higher standard regarding ToS, especially any of those section that have the potential to have law enforcement intervention over things that happen on the site.

Hopefully, that will answer your questions.





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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/26/2016 3:15:17 PM   
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Fuck those right wing felching fuckwits.

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/26/2016 4:12:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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It is the constantat habit of punkassmotherfuckers to talk shit..



Pot, meet kettle.

Perhaps you might list for me the times I have been factually wrong.



I just said that you are nothing more than a punkass motherfucker who talks shit calling someone else a punkass motherfucker who talks shit (and has no imagination because in all these years, you cannot come up with something else besides punkassed motherfucker).
I said nothing about factually right or wrong. That would require a decent sized forum in and of itself.

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/27/2016 4:08:29 AM   
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It is the constantat habit of punkassmotherfuckers to talk shit..

Pot, meet kettle.

Perhaps you might list for me the times I have been factually wrong.


I just said that you are nothing more than a punkass motherfucker

opinions vary.


who talks shit

I do not talk shit. I provide facts backed up with valid citation. Big difference between that and talking shit.


calling someone else a punkass motherfucker who talks shit (and has no imagination because in all these years, you cannot come up with something else besides punkassed motherfucker).

It is difficult to reinvent the wheel. Until a more appropriate moniker is devised I will stick with punkassmotherfucker. I will mention that "jesus you are phoquing stupid" has been gaining some traction. Now before you get your tail feathers all ruffled I would be remis if I did not point out that while me and thee may often disagree about many things I do not believe you to be stupid...often wrong but not stupid.

I said nothing about factually right or wrong. That would require a decent sized forum in and of itself.

Roflmfao

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/27/2016 8:52:53 AM   
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quote:

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We made a mistake in removing this thread “Milo Yiannopolous "A Dangerous Faggot". This action was taken due to our incorrect assumption that this posting contained derogatory content directed towards the gay community. In looking carefully at this posting it's apparent that this was not the case.

We do our best to provide an open platform for dialogue and debate on a wide spectrum of issues while at the same time trying to minimize gratuitous attacks on particular individuals or groups. In this case we got it wrong and, to be clear, the decision to remove this content was made by the site itself and not by our moderators.

If in the future, we make similar mistakes kindly point them out to us as was done here. This thread has been restored and moving forwards, we'll try to pause a bit longer before removing content in situations of this character and will try harder to make sure that we make the right call.

Please feel free to voice criticisms you might have of our website at any time. That being said we ask users of our forums to kindly refrain from ad hominem comments directed towards moderators or other users.

Oh for fuck's sake. How can I maintain my righteous indignation when you're being all fair and reasonable about things?

My apologies to moderator 25 or whomever might have felt attacked by this thread. In the past, the moderation has been outrageously biased and being censored because my opinions ruffle a few feathers has become depressingly common. I may have overreacted.

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/27/2016 9:04:21 AM   
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I think we should call what white hetero males do when they try and justify their use of the words f*** to gays, n*** to blacks, and c*** to women "idiotsplaining," since only an idiot could be so blind in their callous disregard for the hurt such ugly words can cause to others not of their ilk.

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/27/2016 9:07:04 AM   
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All bullshit aside. It's obvious that the OP's point is valid. This moderator was left-wing, and their bias was knee-jerkingly obvious.

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/27/2016 9:13:24 AM   
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I think we should call what white hetero males do when they try and justify their use of the words f*** to gays, n*** to blacks, and c*** to women "idiotsplaining," since only an idiot could be so blind in their callous disregard for the hurt such ugly words can cause to others not of their ilk.
An individual's reactions to words are an inherent part of social interactions with them.

I don't refer to any gay man as a faggot unless his interactions with me demonstrate that the word itself is irrelevant to him. Even then, it's not something I'd whip out in casual conversation unless it was for comedic effect and I knew with certainty that he wouldn't be offended.

I live in a real white part of the country and rarely run into African Americans - even so, I can't imagine a context under which I'd ever use the word "nigger" unless they were going all hip-hop on me and were all "wassup my nigga" upon bumping into me some day. And that's pretty unlikely.

But as for "cunt" and women? Fuck that shit. Women here - and elsewhere - call men 'pricks' all the fucking time. If I call anyone a cunt, it's because they deserve it - male or female - so I'm not going to hold myself back for the delicate sensibilities of a woman just because she's a woman.

After all, that would be patriarchal and sexist.

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/27/2016 9:15:20 AM   
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Why would that be leftwing? The knee-jerkers as well as the Johnson jerkers always turn out to be rightwingers. I dont follow the logic of you great bleedin' poofters.

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/27/2016 9:18:11 AM   
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Um because right-wing folk either believe in free-speech(in which case they don't care what you say) or they're bigotted fucks(in which case they'll be the ones calling you a faggot). How can you not know this and still be allowed access to a computer?

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/27/2016 3:22:07 PM   
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Um because right-wing folk either believe in free-speech(in which case they don't care what you say)

So trumph is a lefty because he has hecklers tossed?





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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/27/2016 4:12:14 PM   
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Um because right-wing folk either believe in free-speech(in which case they don't care what you say) or they're bigotted fucks(in which case they'll be the ones calling you a faggot). How can you not know this and still be allowed access to a computer?

What are you, you fuckin retard, some Izzard of philosophy, put that fucking thing away before you scare some little girl with it you batty boy..is that left or right?

Dont go thru life drunk, stupid, and retarded son. Its no way forward.

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RE: Ye Gods, you left-wing censorship-obsessed fuckwits - 3/27/2016 5:00:47 PM   
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What are you, you fuckin retard, some Izzard of philosophy, put that fucking thing away before you scare some little girl with it you batty boy..is that left or right?

Dont go thru life drunk, stupid, and retarded son. Its no way forward.





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That being said we ask users of our forums to kindly refrain from ad hominem comments directed towards moderators or other users.


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