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Do you trust the police?


I trust a policeperson more.
  32% (11)
I trust a policeperson less.
  35% (12)
I trust a policeperson the same.
  32% (11)


Total Votes : 34
(last vote on : 3/30/2016 2:55:26 PM)
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Hillwilliam -> Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 7:21:13 PM)

There are a lot of high profile cases of abuse and there are a HELL of a lot of guys and gals who don't make the news which means they are doing their job as expected.

So, if you meet a policeperson, do you trust them more, less or the same as someone else that you just met. I chose "the same" as there are scumbags, awesome human beings and just regular folks in the middle both in and out of uniform.



thompsonx -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 7:27:56 PM)

How does one trust a bill collector(revenue enhancement agent) with a gun?
Didn't we just read about this in furgistan?



MrRodgers -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 7:54:12 PM)

I did when I was a youth but no so much anymore. They can and will do warrant-less searches, too often are rednecks with a gun and a badge which is all too often...their only manhood. They commit crimes knowing full well, they will be absolved.

Didn't believe it years ago but now are as much or more responsible for the perjury that goes on in court. Far too militarized.



Marini -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 8:06:33 PM)

I trust cops about the same as I always have.
My opinion regarding cops has remained the same since I was a teen.

Remember I am one of those who grew up hearing, "Never trust the man."
That goes deep with me-- "The man" includes cops, the government, elected officials, most people in positions of authority.
You can gather that by most of my posts.
[;)]

When I NEED a cop, I pray I get a decent kind one with a heart.
There are some good cops out there.
There is nothing better than a good cop, and nothing worse than a bad cop.
This is a loaded question {like most}, some ethnic groups trust cops more than others, and for good reason!
Peace



Real0ne -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 8:31:02 PM)

hey if you ever have a joint you want to share and no one to share it with, definitely help your local police department and share it with a cop. They will protect and serve you! [sm=smoking.gif]



bigjb62 -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 8:36:17 PM)

I voted that I trust a police person less for several reasons with the main reason being anytime you give a group a lot of power over other people you end up with to many of them abusing that power. I unfortunately experienced that type of problem the last two times I had to deal with the police and prior the that I would have answered I trust a police person the same.



Marini -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 8:42:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bigjb62

I voted that I trust a police person less for several reasons with the main reason being anytime you give a group a lot of power over other people you end up with to many of them abusing that power. I unfortunately experienced that type of problem the last two times I had to deal with the police and prior the that I would have answered I trust a police person the same.


I feel you, I grew up hearing and believing it was best not to trust someone JUST because he was
a cop.
I think you will find most Black people don't just "trust cops".
Sorry for your bad experiences.



kdsub -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 8:57:35 PM)

If I were the type of person to break the law... or have a chip on my shoulder over authority... I would trust a policeman less. I am of an opinion that a type of job can influence behavior regardless of the moral character of the individual. I believe in law enforcement the number one crime and behavior flaw is excessive force. This flaw is often a result of dealing with the criminal element over time. Many police have a hard time separating criminal behavior from non criminal interaction with the general public. Otherwise they over-react and treat everyone like a criminal. At times this results in excessive force or lack of trust from the people they are sworn to protect.

Butch



Real0ne -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 9:00:29 PM)

One of the jurors admitted they were terrified to vote not guilty because: "If they can do it to him they can do it to me".


Subject of Netflix hit series hired Kathleen Zellner at the beginning of January

Netflix’s “Making a Murderer” has captivated audiences across America, telling the story of Steven Avery’s murder trial for which he was ultimately convicted. Since hiring Kathleen Zellner, who specializes in wrongful convictions, more and more updates have surfaced about Avery, the case, and Teresa Halbach’s death itself.

While supporters rallied outside of the Manitowoc County Courthouse after Avery wrote a letter from prison last weekend, others are still claiming that Avery is guilty. For example, the Wisconsin Department of Justice is seeking for Avery to be barred from release because he is a “flight risk,” and prosecutor Ken Kratz is looking to write a tell-all book about his involvement in the case.

“Making a Murderer” explores the case of Avery, a Wisconsin man who was imprisoned for sexual assault for 18 years before being exonerated on DNA evidence and released — only to be charged and convicted for the murder of a young woman (Halbach) three years later. [after 2 cops gave depositons and it was clear to averys attorneys they were going to win the 36 million dollar law suit against manitowok that the cops would have had to pay out of pocket because of their wrong doing the insurance company would not cover the damages!!!!] Kratz successfully prosecuted Avery for the rape and murder of the photographer, the crime for which Avery is now serving a life sentence. [Emphasis added]


Also Read: 'Making a Murderer': Bomb Threat Targets Manitowoc Sheriff's Department

There was a bomb threat at the Manitowoc County Sheriff’s Department
A bomb threat was called into the Manitowoc Sheriff’s Department, the same establishment that was at the center of “Making a Murderer,” on Wednesday, Feb. 3.

Authorities say that the caller claimed “there were bombs in the building” and that he was “getting justice” for Steven Avery, the man at the forefront of the series, who was convicted of the murder of Teresa Halbach after being exonerated for a rape he didn’t commit.

Manitowoc law enforcement and the Wisconsin Department of Criminal Investigation are currently working together to backtrack the call to determine the origin and identity of the caller.

http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/2015/12/22/whos-who-steven-avery-case/77763356/

http://www.thewrap.com/8-making-a-murderer-updates-since-steven-avery-got-a-new-lawyer/


ah.... to protect and serve!



Greta75 -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 9:03:43 PM)

I trust the police in my country. It's very different. It's like, if they were rude and not polite towards you when they approach you or when you approach them, you can complain about it ha! And it will be taken seriously with discipline action taken towards them. There is a strict code of conduct they need to have, including polite demeanor towards people when they deal with people. I think it's the direction from on top. A police is there to serve people, and help them with problems and crimes, and not to behave like they got some power tripping ego.
Being a gun free country, the police are the only ones that carry guns. But we never had an incident about a police misusing guns so far.





Real0ne -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/27/2016 9:14:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

At times this results in excessive force or lack of trust from the people they are sworn to protect.

Butch



Yeh the american DREAM!


Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

By LINDA GREENHOUSEJUNE 28, 2005

WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.

The decision, with an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia and dissents from Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, overturned a ruling by a federal appeals court in Colorado. The appeals court had permitted a lawsuit to proceed against a Colorado town, Castle Rock, for the failure of the police to respond to a woman's pleas for help after her estranged husband violated a protective order by kidnapping their three young daughters, whom he eventually killed.

For hours on the night of June 22, 1999, Jessica Gonzales tried to get the Castle Rock police to find and arrest her estranged husband, Simon Gonzales, who was under a court order to stay 100 yards away from the house. He had taken the children, ages 7, 9 and 10, as they played outside, and he later called his wife to tell her that he had the girls at an amusement park in Denver.

Ms. Gonzales conveyed the information to the police, but they failed to act before Mr. Gonzales arrived at the police station hours later, firing a gun, with the bodies of the girls in the back of his truck. The police killed him at the scene.


A 1989 decision, DeShaney v. Winnebago County, held that the failure by county social service workers to protect a young boy from a beating by his father did not breach any substantive constitutional duty. By framing her case as one of process rather than substance, Ms. Gonzales and her lawyers hoped to find a way around that precedent.


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect-someone.html?_r=0




this is nothing new the state only has the obligation to protect the state.

Its state propaganda!

You read it on the side of their cars and believe it despite its purely bullshit!

All they do (with exception to an occasoinal rambo) is wait till the lead stops flying take notres and pictures.

their sworn obligation is to protect the state. Read your state statutes and stop taking wooden nickels!






thompsonx -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/28/2016 7:23:16 AM)


ORIGINAL: kdsub

If I were the type of person to break the law... or have a chip on my shoulder over authority... I would trust a policeman less.

Why is it in your mind only those who are criminal or have a chip on their shoulder are the only ones who would distrust the cops?


I am of an opinion that a type of job can influence behavior regardless of the moral character of the individual.

This seems to say that cops are justified in being thugs because of the nature of the job?


I believe in law enforcement the number one crime and behavior flaw is excessive force. This flaw is often a result of dealing with the criminal element over time.

Could it possibly be that the nature of those who join the cops are thugs seeking a legal avenue for their criminal behaviour?


Many police have a hard time separating criminal behavior from non criminal interaction with the general public.

That would be prima-facia evidence that they should get a job they can do.


Otherwise they over-react and treat everyone like a criminal. At times this results in excessive force or lack of trust from the people they are sworn to protect.

You did not seem to have any trouble justifying the cops in furistan. You refuse to acknowledge reading any part of the doj reports on furgistan except the part that said they were not going to prosecute wilson.[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/28/2016 7:26:17 AM)

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I trust the police in my country. It's very different. It's like, if they were rude and not polite towards you when they approach you or when you approach them, you can complain about it ha! And it will be taken seriously with discipline action taken towards them. There is a strict code of conduct they need to have, including polite demeanor towards people when they deal with people. I think it's the direction from on top. A police is there to serve people, and help them with problems and crimes, and not to behave like they got some power tripping ego.
Being a gun free country, the police are the only ones that carry guns. But we never had an incident about a police misusing guns so far.



You claim to be a millionair living in the third world shithole known as singapore...why on earth would the cops in that third world shithole harass a millionaire?



Kaliko -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/28/2016 8:50:54 AM)

FR. Yes, I trust the police.



Greta75 -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/28/2016 9:01:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You claim to be a millionair living in the third world shithole known as singapore...why on earth would the cops in that third world shithole harass a millionaire?

You need to bring evidence for this false accusation that I ever claim I was a millionaire.
And how would the cops know your net worth? You know in Singapore, we all like dressing in t-shirt, berms and flip flops. Everywhere! Poor or rich, you look the same.



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/28/2016 9:49:42 AM)

If I were in America, Africa, Russia, anywhere in the ME or Asia, the answer would be a strong and definite No!

But seeing as I am in the UK, I would trust a policeperson in the UK, EU, Astralia, NZ and probably also in Canada.

So I can't give an honest simple answer - it would depend where I was.



thompsonx -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/28/2016 10:01:46 AM)


ORIGINAL: Greta75


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You claim to be a millionair living in the third world shithole known as singapore...why on earth would the cops in that third world shithole harass a millionaire?

You need to bring evidence for this false accusation that I ever claim I was a millionaire.

The third world shithole known as singapore has about a million millionaires.
The third world shithole known as singapore has about a million cars whose possession is restricted to the richest portion of the population.
You claim to own a car in the third world shithole known as singapore.
Do the math...oh wait you have told us you can't do arithmatic...perhaps you could get a grown up to do the math for you.


And how would the cops know your net worth? You know in Singapore, we all like dressing in t-shirt, berms and flip flops. Everywhere! Poor or rich, you look the same.

Wealth in singapore are the five cs...car,credit card,condominuim,cash and country club. Cops are not blind and the five cs are pretty easy to spot.[8|]



Greta75 -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/28/2016 10:08:41 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
The third world shithole known as singapore has about a million millionaires.
The third world shithole known as singapore has about a million cars whose possession is restricted to the richest portion of the population.
You claim to own a car in the third world shithole known as singapore.
Do the math...oh wait you have told us you can't do arithmatic...perhaps you could get a grown up to do the math for you.

Still doesn't prove that I am a millionaire. You don't need to be a millionaire to own a car around here.
quote:

Wealth in singapore are the five cs...car,credit card,condominuim,cash and country club. Cops are not blind and the five cs are pretty easy to spot.[8|]

So how would a cop know which person on the street has the five Cs? There is no way the cop can profile by net worth by just physical appearance of the person. Singapore rich dress even more normal to blend in. They aren't flashy around here. Don't wear suits or anything. Everyone love to just wear, shorts, t-shirt and flip flop.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/28/2016 10:39:05 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Greta75


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You claim to be a millionair living in the third world shithole known as singapore...why on earth would the cops in that third world shithole harass a millionaire?

You need to bring evidence for this false accusation that I ever claim I was a millionaire.

The third world shithole known as singapore has about a million millionaires.
The third world shithole known as singapore has about a million cars whose possession is restricted to the richest portion of the population.
You claim to own a car in the third world shithole known as singapore.
Do the math...oh wait you have told us you can't do arithmatic...perhaps you could get a grown up to do the math for you.


And how would the cops know your net worth? You know in Singapore, we all like dressing in t-shirt, berms and flip flops. Everywhere! Poor or rich, you look the same.

Wealth in singapore are the five cs...car,credit card,condominuim,cash and country club. Cops are not blind and the five cs are pretty easy to spot.[8|]


Well that's a load of bullshit



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Do you trust the police? (3/28/2016 10:40:11 AM)

And yes, I trust the cops.



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