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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/1/2016 2:43:36 AM   
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brispslave, I recommend that you check in your shoes nxt time you need a fuck..............................


Um, was that supposed to be an insult? Seriously, what are you, 8?


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..............................don't read things into what I say that only occur in your tiny mind.


And, yes, next time you type something I'll assume you meant something other than what you've actually typed. My bad. I don't come here often. I didn't realise there was a 'special' group who mean the opposite of what they type. Are there many more in your special group that I should look out for? I don't want to slip in another pool of tard drool is all.

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/1/2016 9:18:12 AM   
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But I wonder if she is telling me the truth. If she is, then wouldn't more women do it?



Even if it is a way to make thousands of dollars a week, it's still one of the most draining, demanding, soul sucking jobs there is. Catering/pandering to others is not easy and it's not like it's a guaranteed income considering how many pro-dommes and whores who're willing to play act there are and how few men are willing to part with their money. Doesn't seem worth the stress to me.

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/1/2016 10:06:54 PM   
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I will have to put in my experience with a prodomme
This particular lady could have one session with a client, and would write down everything, and have a " plan" on her sessions with him, based on his laundry list, then catered to her style. She was incredible at pulling out "information" that made her incredibly astute with most of her stable.
Of course all prodommes/fin dommes/in call girls are not created "equal"
Personal attitude comes into it.

BTW, I was being silly, because as Godess2UseYouHard noted, "Guys that have the 'anyone will do' attitude often go for the cheapest, most accomodating... often an escort in a bad pvc teddy."

Being an independent contractor or consultant is a tough job no matter how you look at it. Anybody can claim to be a pro, but that doesn't make her/him one. In any business, reputation and delivering on the goods is everything; word of mouth can make you or break you. Getting back to ProDommes, it really does take a special kind of businesswoman to deal with all sorts of clients, to be attuned to their needs without "selling out" to unreasonable market-driven demands. (Somebody always wants to get something for nothing.) There's a delicate balance between holding your own and turning a profit, because in order to grow your business successfully, the soundest strategy to have is to overdeliver on providing a quality product and/or services, and to take good care of loyal repeat customers.

OP, the woman you hired does not sound like a serious pro. I wouldn't believe much of anything she told you. Of course she's going to make it seem as if she's in high demand, but what do you care and what business is it of yours in the first place? If she was any good or if you had felt that you had gotten your money's worth, you would have wanted to see her again. Instead, you made it clear to us that this was a one-off deal. (Ref your Post#13: I won't book another one.)

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/2/2016 7:45:07 AM   
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About as well as any other whore. I guess it depends on the fiscal attributes of your target demographic and whether you're able to find and keep said suckers.


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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/2/2016 8:29:11 AM   
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BTW, I was being silly, because as Godess2UseYouHard noted, "Guys that have the 'anyone will do' attitude often go for the cheapest, most accomodating... often an escort in a bad pvc teddy."

Being an independent contractor or consultant is a tough job no matter how you look at it. Anybody can claim to be a pro, but that doesn't make her/him one. In any business, reputation and delivering on the goods is everything; word of mouth can make you or break you. Getting back to ProDommes, it really does take a special kind of businesswoman to deal with all sorts of clients, to be attuned to their needs without "selling out" to unreasonable market-driven demands. (Somebody always wants to get something for nothing.) There's a delicate balance between holding your own and turning a profit, because in order to grow your business successfully, the soundest strategy to have is to overdeliver on providing a quality product and/or services, and to take good care of loyal repeat customers.


As a business owner, I cannot disagree on that in any way:) And my bad for not seeing the "silly" re reading it made sense...


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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/2/2016 7:28:27 PM   
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MrRodgers;

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Pro domme is more difficult to make such a living but they usually get more per hour (client) yet it is harder to do successfully without other straight work.

For many it is. True. I have one friend who owns her home, leases a Lexus, put her kid through private schools, and now a University (commuter) Depends on her marketing skills I think.

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/2/2016 7:31:13 PM   
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About as well as any other whore. I guess it depends on the fiscal attributes of your target demographic and whether you're able to find and keep said suckers.


Ahh. . . I love the smell of moral indignation in the morning even more than napalm.

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/2/2016 8:02:27 PM   
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As a business owner, I cannot disagree on that in any way:) And my bad for not seeing the "silly" re reading it made sense...

No, not at all, and although I quoted you specifically in a serious context, I did so in case I had come across as being disrespectful to BDSM providers--inclusive of ProDommes, ProSwitches, and Prosubs.

If anything, I was poking fun at their (male) clients, or any client/customer who gets fooled by cheap knock-offs in an attempt to save money and thereby sacrifices quality for the equivalent of the Dollar Store shopping experience. Like most businesses, you get what you pay for, and OP overpaid for an amateurish call girl who convinced him that she was a bona fide Dominatrix!

What this reminds me of, Lucy, are those subs I have known over the years who are so keen to lay claim to having a Mistress or of having secured the regularly scheduled services of a Domme provider (referring to her as *my* Domme), that upon further inquiry it is more than apparent that their "Mistress" is no Mistress, and their "Domme" is no Domme.

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/3/2016 6:51:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Awareness

About as well as any other whore. I guess it depends on the fiscal attributes of your target demographic and whether you're able to find and keep said suckers.


Ahh. . . I love the smell of moral indignation in the morning even more than napalm.

Yeah, you're misreading that as indignation when it's plainly just contempt.


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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/3/2016 11:22:15 AM   
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MrRodgers;

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Pro domme is more difficult to make such a living but they usually get more per hour (client) yet it is harder to do successfully without other straight work.

For many it is. True. I have one friend who owns her home, leases a Lexus, put her kid through private schools, and now a University (commuter) Depends on her marketing skills I think.



I think it depends on a ton of factors, marketing is one of them, but then there is location and skills, pretty much like in any other business.

There's a relatively high number of guys who are into "fluff domination with extras" so yes, somebody who is not too bothered with learning a skill set can at first possibly earn well, however those guys are usually fickle and always looking for the next thing and maybe the reason why so many relatively young women drift in and out of commercial BDSM because they first earn well and then the guys sort of drift off to the next new one. As a rule of thumb, the guys who expect a certain skill set that's beyond a mild spanking, tend to be the most loyal clients, usually the guys venturing into skilled edge play prefer to build a relationship that is based on trust. A lot of them have clothing fetishes, so a substantial fetish wardrobe is a must just like tools.

And - as un-PC as it is - looks also play quite a role, you can't ever skip the waxing or the pedicure, got to watch your figure, diet, gym, etc. I've seen women losing a lot of clients just because they cut their hair or changed their hair colour. I would guess the more rural your area is, the more liberty you have to do whatever you like, if you're the only game in town, so to speak, but if you're in a big city, there is some competition and you got to keep up with it, advertise, have new toys, new wardrobe, new skills...

Very much also depends on how the woman individually feels about it, my longest dungeon stint was 3 months every day, as the headmistress was away due to family problems, I can tell you after those 3 months being in the dungeon every day, I was starting to feel odd, there wasn't enough balance in my life and the atmosphere in a dungeon is quite peculiar...

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/3/2016 5:03:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

MrRodgers;

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Pro domme is more difficult to make such a living but they usually get more per hour (client) yet it is harder to do successfully without other straight work.

For many it is. True. I have one friend who owns her home, leases a Lexus, put her kid through private schools, and now a University (commuter) Depends on her marketing skills I think.



I think it depends on a ton of factors, marketing is one of them, but then there is location and skills, pretty much like in any other business.

There's a relatively high number of guys who are into "fluff domination with extras" so yes, somebody who is not too bothered with learning a skill set can at first possibly earn well, however those guys are usually fickle and always looking for the next thing and maybe the reason why so many relatively young women drift in and out of commercial BDSM because they first earn well and then the guys sort of drift off to the next new one. As a rule of thumb, the guys who expect a certain skill set that's beyond a mild spanking, tend to be the most loyal clients, usually the guys venturing into skilled edge play prefer to build a relationship that is based on trust. A lot of them have clothing fetishes, so a substantial fetish wardrobe is a must just like tools.

And - as un-PC as it is - looks also play quite a role, you can't ever skip the waxing or the pedicure, got to watch your figure, diet, gym, etc. I've seen women losing a lot of clients just because they cut their hair or changed their hair colour. I would guess the more rural your area is, the more liberty you have to do whatever you like, if you're the only game in town, so to speak, but if you're in a big city, there is some competition and you got to keep up with it, advertise, have new toys, new wardrobe, new skills...

Very much also depends on how the woman individually feels about it, my longest dungeon stint was 3 months every day, as the headmistress was away due to family problems, I can tell you after those 3 months being in the dungeon every day, I was starting to feel odd, there wasn't enough balance in my life and the atmosphere in a dungeon is quite peculiar...



@LadyConstanze
So these "Pro-Dommes" who advertise on Backpage - the ones who go to your house - and charge $400. You do believe some of them are successful and do see 20 clients a week? Or even if they see 2 clients a week... they make more than most people who work 40 hour jobs

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/4/2016 2:34:30 AM   
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Again, I would think it depends on a lot of factors, again, location, location, location... And that's just the start...

Most established Dommes don't do outcalls unless they know you, simply due to the risk, if they are willing to take that risk, I hope they make a lot of money, but it's not really my business how much they make. Somebody I know in LA has Dommes visiting him, and it tends to be $400 an hour with a 2 hour minimum, but they're not from BackPage. They check him as much as he checks them, he doesn't want a stranger coming into his house to spy things out and possibly rob him, they don't want to spend 1 hours drive there and back and then have somebody flake out, or be busted or end up being raped and killed...

I would assume that if they'd have sufficient clients who come to see them in dungeons, they wouldn't do outcalls, simple maths, if they'd be in a dungeon and would be steadily booked, why go through the trouble? For the $800 they get they effectively spend at least 4 hours, so it boils down to $200 an hour, average hour in a dungeon is $300...

Again, if they are willing to take the risks, I hope they're doing well, because let's face it, it's a hell of a risk to just go to a stranger's house as a woman, then you're talking about the US, where almost everywhere you have the issue of legality...

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/4/2016 9:22:16 AM   
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NOT EVERY WOMAN WANTS TO BE A PROSTITUTE..

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/4/2016 10:03:55 AM   
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NOT EVERY WOMAN WANTS TO BE A PROSTITUTE..


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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/4/2016 10:43:56 AM   
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Just happened on this forum.
Why on earth do people want to discuss the income of a small minority of people in the community?
What people make is normally down to how good they are what they profess and I don't imagine kink is any exception.
Their services are available to those that can afford them, like any other personal service.
The rest is just Bullshit.

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/4/2016 5:48:19 PM   
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I had my first Pro-Domme experience from Backpage.
She charges $300 Incall and $400 Outcall. She was running an Easter Special at $100 off for either.
I had her come to my place and she looked pretty much like her pictures.
Dressed average - jeans, tennis shoes and shirt. Nothing fancy.
She said her Incall is at her apartment but doesn't like seeing clients there because it's always a mess.

It was a nice experience. She said she sees about 20 customers a week. Wow, at least $6,000 a week!
She only advertises on Backpage.

But I wonder if she is telling me the truth. If she is, then wouldn't more women do it?


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I edited this post to limit it to Backpage Pro-Dommes. I realize other Pro-Dommes rent a dungeon, dress up, which all can be very expensive.


Who the flying fuck gives a fuck?

Who gives a fuck if your milkman pays 80 cents a gallon for the 3 dollar milk you're buying?

Seriously....who gives a fuck?

Does it tittilate you that she's making major Benjamins telling you to sit in a corner?

Honestly...why is this post in existence?

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/4/2016 5:54:13 PM   
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It was a nice experience. She said she sees about 20 customers a week. Wow, at least $6,000 a week!
She only advertises on Backpage.

But I wonder if she is telling me the truth. If she is, then wouldn't more women do it?


Yes, some do. Like in any job, if you're good at what you do, you get the clients and the money.



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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/4/2016 11:32:56 PM   
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The reason for this post is it is a marketing ploy.
You can bet your socks that someone will collect !!

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/5/2016 1:13:21 PM   
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So these "Pro-Dommes" who advertise on Backpage - the ones who go to your house - and charge $400. You do believe some of them are successful and do see 20 clients a week? Or even if they see 2 clients a week... they make more than most people who work 40 hour jobs

As others have commented along the lines of who gives a flying fuck, why do you care? Are you planning on going into the pimping business?

There are many professions which have a short shelf life. Porn acting is one of them, so is modeling. You get what the market can bear for whatever goodies you have to offer, and then you get out.

@MissKatya, unless you picked up on something I missed, I don't believe OP is the collegiate starbucks dude. He did, however, slip into using a very similar font color and size in his Post#13 that a certain male switch (age 45 instead of 40) in Orange County (vice San Diego) uses, who goes by M***R****.

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RE: Do You Believe Pro-Dommes Make A Good Living? - 4/5/2016 2:08:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: subbybound

So these "Pro-Dommes" who advertise on Backpage - the ones who go to your house - and charge $400. You do believe some of them are successful and do see 20 clients a week? Or even if they see 2 clients a week... they make more than most people who work 40 hour jobs

As others have commented along the lines of who gives a flying fuck, why do you care? Are you planning on going into the pimping business?

There are many professions which have a short shelf life. Porn acting is one of them, so is modeling. You get what the market can bear for whatever goodies you have to offer, and then you get out.

@MissKatya, unless you picked up on something I missed, I don't believe OP is the collegiate starbucks dude. He did, however, slip into using a very similar font color and size in his Post#13 that a certain male switch (age 45 instead of 40) in Orange County (vice San Diego) uses, who goes by M***R****.



Don't think he wants to go pimping, he's possibly hoping to have a "discussion" why he should pay her much less...

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