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Lucylastic -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/30/2016 4:47:45 AM)

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Greta75 -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/30/2016 4:58:12 AM)

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you "doubt" ... but you are part of Team Trump, aren't you? - You told us so, several times.
so you should know, shouldn't you?

Many US and EU companies pay call centres in India to do their phone businesses, so maybe Team Trump does something similar - and why not ...


Do they pay you for your work here? Are your posts etc part of Team Trump policy, or your own opinions?


If they wanna pay a Singaporean to be on Team Trump, we cost alot more money than Indians.

I welcome the job! I genuinely like Trump! Employ me!!!!

I think you don't understand what "Team Trump" is. Like I am Team Mariah too! Does that means Mariah Carey pays me?




Greta75 -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/30/2016 5:01:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Edwurde

Your micro city-state exists -only- because the UK and the US couldn't decide whom to hand that little biscuit off to, and you were lucky enough to have Japan or China out of the discussion at the time, thanks to us. So just shut up, thank you.

Wow, this is the first time I heard US getting any credit for our city.
Anyway, say whatever you want about us. Our people live better quality of life than most first world nations.

So all good! Our government did a damn great job. And Trump actually represents how we run the closest.

Asia does not political correct politics. I bet if our founder ran for US President, he'd end up pissing off everybody saying politically incorrect things too constantly too. Over here, we like it.




Staleek -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/30/2016 5:02:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

There is no silent majority, loudmouthed nutsuckers without brains enough to poor piss out of a boot.

Trump will not be elected toiletlicker, he has absolutely no shot at the presidency.


I'm not picking on you or anything, but when I read the second line of this post it reminded me of this.

http://www.theonion.com/article/will-be-end-trumps-campaign-says-increasingly-nerv-52002

We all thought Trump had no hope. Unfortunately it looks like there are enough idiots who have avoided Darwin awards long enough to reach voting age that he might actually have a chance.

That said, he might be the best of the Republican nominees. At least Trump is Trump and not Koch or Adelson, as all the other candidates are.




blnymph -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/30/2016 5:31:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

you "doubt" ... but you are part of Team Trump, aren't you? - You told us so, several times.
so you should know, shouldn't you?

Many US and EU companies pay call centres in India to do their phone businesses, so maybe Team Trump does something similar - and why not ...


Do they pay you for your work here? Are your posts etc part of Team Trump policy, or your own opinions?


If they wanna pay a Singaporean to be on Team Trump, we cost alot more money than Indians.

I welcome the job! I genuinely like Trump! Employ me!!!!

I think you don't understand what "Team Trump" is. Like I am Team Mariah too! Does that means Mariah Carey pays me?


maybe Mariah Carey does not pay you but her booking agents?

you can tell what it means and what your job is

I think it might be really interesting, and maybe for once based on fact (well maybe again rather not ...)

maybe I do not understand indeed - just guessing how it could work: do you get a Team Trump release with topics to post? do you send back reports what you posted and where? does Team Trump know (and approve) you are posting on a kink message board? I think your answers could be really interesting






Edwurde -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/30/2016 11:47:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Edwurde

Your micro city-state exists -only- because the UK and the US couldn't decide whom to hand that little biscuit off to, and you were lucky enough to have Japan or China out of the discussion at the time, thanks to us. So just shut up, thank you.

Wow, this is the first time I heard US getting any credit for our city.
Anyway, say whatever you want about us. Our people live better quality of life than most first world nations.

So all good! Our government did a damn great job. And Trump actually represents how we run the closest.

Asia does not political correct politics. I bet if our founder ran for US President, he'd end up pissing off everybody saying politically incorrect things too constantly too. Over here, we like it.


Your country's modern day founder was Sir Thomas Stamford Raffles of the East India Company, like some other places in Asia (by the EIC). I didn't say the US had anything directly to do with modern Singapore, I merely alluded to the fact that the US and UK were the primary parties divvying up the foreign spoils (territories, colonies, etc.) after both world wars.

But while on the subject, what country was responsible for the Japanese having to abandon your country in '45? Was the president of the US at that time anything like Donald Trump? Your country as exists today wouldn't be here if Trump were president back then. He'd be too busy making deals with the Japs over casinos that go broke in five years. Your good education system wouldn't be here at all, except for the very few who could afford it. Trump wouldn't allow the law against chewing gum in public; he would own the company and have gaudy adverts all over the place promoting it, especially in the subways. You would never have had a national healthcare system. Trump would own a chain of retirement homes there, staffed by untrained non-Muslim foreigners working for $10 a day, and still not run the thing properly enough to pay the electric bill or fix the plumbing or make the loan payments.

"And Trump actually represents how we run the closest." No, Bernie Sanders would come a lot closer, actually.

You have no idea what an inept idiot Trump is when it comes to his laughable attempts to do anything of practical value. The fact that you promote him strictly on 'merit' of spouting one idiocy after another (which is any thinking person's description of what you fondly refer to as being 'not politically correct') explains volumes as to why your country needed to be bailed out several times by outsiders (wouldn't exist in the first place but for them, actually), if your countrymen think anything like you. Bernie Sanders, if he had dictatorial powers, would have this country much closer to how things are in Singapore and about thirty other OECD countries regarding healthcare and education. You know nothing about how things actually work (or not), all you care about is being entertained.

This isn't a freaking game show or "reality show," deary. It's real life, and a tiny country like yours might survive four years of constant turmoil (done that several times already, actually), but in any case the damage would be limited to the island. Having that bad cartoon character as prez of the largest economy and most powerful army in the world would spread the damage far and wide. Whatever damage the US has done to itself and spread to other lands already in the last thirty years or so would be amplified at least 10 times if that idiot with 'congenital bad toupee disease' ever got hold of the wheel.




Greta75 -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/30/2016 10:05:42 PM)

I mention in another post that all lib mainstream media has done so far is incite hatred towards Trump. Media messages can be very subliminal. I can see it's clearly working.

Bernie being closest to Singapore government is a total joke. While I like Bernie and think his a cute old man and nice guy.

But we had oppositions proposing similarities to what Bernie proposed and they lost by 70%.

Majority of our people have voted AGAINST free shit like free education, free healthcare.

We like our low taxes and not willing to pay the price of increased tax for it.




Greta75 -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/30/2016 10:23:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: blnymph
maybe I do not understand indeed - just guessing how it could work: do you get a Team Trump release with topics to post? do you send back reports what you posted and where? does Team Trump know (and approve) you are posting on a kink message board? I think your answers could be really interesting

I don't know, get me this job and I'll tell you.

I'd say it would be stupid to pay me to promote in a kink site with low traffic, that's for sure. But free money! Why not!




Termyn8or -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 12:06:35 AM)

Greta, I know what you see now at this site. But many years ago it was really high traffic. I mean threads moved faster than an IRC chat room. I know, I was there. SINGLE THREADS.

I think some of the top posters died off or got thrown off by moderators. They pissed me off and I stayed away for a while, just lurked now and then.

Now, with the dungeon rules it is acceptable. Their traffic dropped so much they had to do something. Before, they moderated me for saying "I partied with that dude" (in a Tommy Chong voice). Meantime someone else's avatar was the cat with the caption "No, I didn't see your LSD, but did you see the dragons in the kitchen ?". So I took a couple years off. And now, I see traffic still hasn't recovered. Getting better, but nothing like it used to be. Might never be, no idea.

T^T




Greta75 -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 12:52:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Greta, I know what you see now at this site. But many years ago it was really high traffic. I mean threads moved faster than an IRC chat room. I know, I was there. SINGLE THREADS.

I think some of the top posters died off or got thrown off by moderators. They pissed me off and I stayed away for a while, just lurked now and then.

Now, with the dungeon rules it is acceptable. Their traffic dropped so much they had to do something. Before, they moderated me for saying "I partied with that dude" (in a Tommy Chong voice). Meantime someone else's avatar was the cat with the caption "No, I didn't see your LSD, but did you see the dragons in the kitchen ?". So I took a couple years off. And now, I see traffic still hasn't recovered. Getting better, but nothing like it used to be. Might never be, no idea.

T^T


The problem with this site is, it's like high school politics. In the past, too many moderators were also friends with regulars, and they form alliances and gang up and lots of biastism going on. Things weren't run professionally because it's reliant on volunteers.

If too lowly moderated, with the ad hominem style of debating and responding that is running strive in this forum with quite a number of strong regulars, people not used to it will go away.

If too highly moderated, then leave little room for freedom of expression.

Tough balance.









Lucylastic -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 1:05:47 AM)

fair and balanced:)
here we go...

Donald Trump, Abortion Foe, Eyes ‘Punishment’ for Women, Then Recants

Donald J. Trump said on Wednesday that women who seek abortions should be subject to “some form of punishment” if the procedure is banned in the United States, further elevating Republican concerns that his explosive remarks about women could doom the party in the fall.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/31/us/politics/donald-trump-abortion.html?_r=0
he recants, ..the man has no filter...and expects people to believe his "clarification"




Greta75 -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 1:06:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

fair and balanced:)
here we go...

Donald Trump, Abortion Foe, Eyes ‘Punishment’ for Women, Then Recants

Donald J. Trump said on Wednesday that women who seek abortions should be subject to “some form of punishment” if the procedure is banned in the United States, further elevating Republican concerns that his explosive remarks about women could doom the party in the fall.


Actually, Trump is pro-abortion.

But he changed to be anti-abortion when decide to run as a republican after being pro-abortion all his life.

But I understand this little lie.

I do not believe for one minute his against abortion or is against women having abortions.

And I am pro-abortion. So that's why I'm with Donald Trump.

And again, I need to highlight, this was an MSNBC interview! Worst people for a right leaning person to get interviewed with. Full of traps!

Kudos to Trump for bravery! I got to say, he definitely faltered on what to answer about the abortion issue because his genuine position is pro-abortion but he needs to keep up his anti-abortion front as his wooing that crowd at the moment.




Lucylastic -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 1:10:31 AM)

he said, there has to be a punishment for abortion. for the woman
video, before he let his brain back in.


http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/03/30/donald-trump-abortion-punishment-acosta-dnt-tsr.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/




Lucylastic -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 1:13:23 AM)

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0WW1O9

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump said on Wednesday that women who end pregnancies should face punishment if the United States bans abortion, triggering a torrent of criticism from both sides of the abortion debate, including from his White House rivals.

After MSNBC broadcast a clip of an interview with Trump, the billionaire businessman rowed back his remarks, first saying that the abortion issue should be handled by states and later that doctors who performed abortions should be the ones held responsible.

"The doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman," Trump said in his last statement. "The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb."

Trump's earlier statements drew heavy fire from abortion rights supporters and opponents alike.

Abortion has long been a divisive issue in American politics, even though the procedure was legalized in a Supreme Court ruling more than 40 years ago. Opposition to abortion has become a central plank in the platform of most conservative politicians.

Trump has won support from Republican voters for selling himself as a Washington outsider. But the New York real estate tycoon, who once supported abortion access, has come under pressure from conservatives to prove he is truly one of them. At the same time, he has drawn criticism for comments that offended women and minority groups.

"Of course, women shouldn't be punished," rival Republican candidate John Kasich said on Wednesday, saying he opposed abortion except in specific cases such as rape.

U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, the third candidate for the Republican nomination for the Nov. 8 election, said Trump had not thought through the issue. "What's far too often neglected is that being pro-life is not simply about the unborn child, it's also about the mother," he said in a statement.

DISCORD AMONG THE REPUBLICANS

Abortion rights supporters were equally incensed.

"What Donald Trump said was outrageous and dangerous. I'm constantly taken aback at the kinds of things that he advocates for," Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton told MSNBC. "Once again, he has showed us who he is."

Dawn Laguens of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, the political arm of the women's health group, called Trump "flat-out dangerous" in a statement.

Abortion was legalized in the United States in 1973, when the Supreme Court declared that a woman's constitutional right to privacy protected her decision to end a pregnancy.




Greta75 -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 1:13:32 AM)

Yea, he choked on it because his playing an anti-abortion role which was not his true standing.

Imagine how old is he now? His position on abortion changed ONLY after he ran for president. That's a damn long time being pro-abortion.

Fox news have given him alot of shit in the past about this part of things, about why he supported abortion ALL HIS LIFE, and now switch to pro-life.

Left media capitalizing on his role play fuck up. I call it role play, as his role playing an anti-abortionist.

His true position, the one he held ALL HIS LIFE, is pro-abortion.

It's like, I never once believed Obama is a Christian but I believe he had to play up the Christianity part to win votes. Could he have won declaring himself as a Muslim? Let's face facts! NO! It's impossible.

Can Donald Trump win Republican votes if he stayed true to his anti-abortion roots? No!

Is Trump a true Republican? No! Ted is more Republican than Trump.





Lucylastic -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 1:19:33 AM)

LMAO honestly you are so his base.
If he is pro choice, why not stick to his principles.
I do, I am pro-choice every day, I find it impossible to say otherwise, now he has much more experience of lying than I do, as he has walked back more than 20 of his original statements. just since june.
Not the media
HIM
If that makes him trustworthy in your eyes, im sorry for you, but it explains so much about your posts.





Greta75 -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 1:21:05 AM)

I explain why it's impossible to stay true to being pro-abortion and win Republican base support.

It's impossible.

Anyway for some right wingers, this is the reason they hate Trump. They KNOW his a fake pro-life.

Being pro-life is like the quintessential republican necessity position.





Greta75 -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 1:30:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
If that makes him trustworthy in your eyes, im sorry for you, but it explains so much about your posts.

It's impossible for any President to win an election without fudging a few things.
Every President has done it.

Now the key thing is, what does he fudge?

For many right-wingers, this is a damn big deal, his fake pro-life position. I had a big debate with one of my cons friend from texas who is a rubio supporter on this. He doesn't understand how could I support Trump, because he totally believes Trump is falsifying his pro-life stance, and to him, that is a huge integrity issue. To me, as I said, same as Obama falsifying that his not a Muslim. Necessary to get votes.

For me, I'm glad his not pro-life, him being a fake pro-life makes him attractive to me. But his faking to win votes.

Good strategy and a harmless one.




Lucylastic -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 1:57:17 AM)

harmless?
LMFAO
you clearly havent been paying attention to the rw attempts to prevent women having a choice?
it is harmless to you, its harmless to me, as we are not american women.
It is NOT harmless to the futures of women in the US who are or will be of "breeding age"




Greta75 -> RE: In the name of Fair and Balance (3/31/2016 2:01:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

harmless?
LMFAO
you clearly havent been paying attention to the rw attempts to prevent women having a choice?
it is harmless to you, its harmless to me, as we are not american women.
It is NOT harmless to the futures of women in the US who are or will be of "breeding age"


Harmless because when he becomes President, he can conveniently turn pro-abortion again. He praised planned parenthood in a fox news debate! Defended Planned Parenthood. The man can't even insult planned parenthood. His super pro-abortion! And he supports planned parenthood. He would be the last President to support defunding of planned parenthood.

This slip up was so obvious as he got a bit lost in "What would a pro-life say in this circumstances?"

Women are in no danger from this man.




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