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DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 3:04:36 AM

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believe everything you read or watch in the news media.
it amuses me to see posts from the crap youtube etc.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 4:24:06 AM

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 5:14:52 AM

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I believe there is truth in what I read, but is it biased? Always, yeah. Events aren't made up, any amount of effort can coroborate stories, but the details might not be exactly the same and that's what people need to be skeptical about when reading the news.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 6:52:35 AM

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First of all, Youtube.com is hardly news media as in mainstream news. Youtube is made up almost exclusively, of videos put on by individual posters.

However, when it comes to the corporate owned, highly concentrated, so-called mainstream media for the big networks and cable sources, no...I don't watch or believe any of what they tell me with respect to what govt. knows, everything it does and at all levels.

[It] is also that form of media that is told specifically what they are to tell us and as important, what they are not supposed to cover and about which they are to inform us if they were give to us everything the could. Some of the mainstream media has its news scripted by upper management.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 7:26:18 AM

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I usually only quote:
Wiki
BBC
youtube only for music clips or film clips

And I sporadically say from time to time (I) use these as guides. A benchmark if you like - but I never once say true, truisms, fulcrum that all other stories must pit, cite, battle emselves against.

Yes, most people believe on article they read and even then a headline - shame on you bbc...but i have no idea who else to quote on these places.

good if you cited 1-3 examples :)

Even I cannot absolutely answer what is "true"

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 8:39:45 AM

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No. YouTube is for entertainment purposes. All other media, I approach with varying degrees of skepticism - the degree depends largely on the source. If an article sparks my interest, I do some research. I'll read opposing arguments, comments, review snopes and PolitiFact if available. I tend not to rely on information provided by one source. I've always been somewhat skeptical- I was the little shit in the classroom that had no problem correcting teachers.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 8:50:52 AM

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A good article is a good article and an idiot an idiot it is difficult to argue against that

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 8:51:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: BondageersT

believe everything you read or watch in the news media.
it amuses me to see posts from the crap youtube etc.

Hell no!!!
I grew up learning not to trust "the man".
Why the hell should I believe everything "the man" {who controls most large media} tells me?
I always wonder about ALL the things, they don't want us to know!!!
I am not even talking about you-tube, I'm talking about all the major media.
{major newspapers, local and cable news, etc.}
Great post!!!!

< Message edited by Marini -- 3/31/2016 8:53:37 AM >

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 8:56:57 AM

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lucy your #cherry went a long time ago.xx

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 8:58:11 AM

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]ORIGINAL: BondageersT

believe everything you read or watch in the news media.
it amuses me to see posts from the crap youtube etc.

Didn't the amerikan public get behind "weapons of mass deception"?
Didn't the amerikan public get behind the "gulf of tonkin attack"?
I am pretty sure the amerikan people are pretty guillable.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 9:20:33 AM

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Finding out what's real, is a hard journey, but the mind gets sharper each time you put the true effort in. My trick is never to confuse dignity for truth. Dignity is just another hidden form of authority, which being authority is almost always wrong. Dignity and respectability are not in the slightest, markers for truth.

What I do, is doubt everything - believe nothing - nothing on its face. Even from favorite sources. But i must read and watch everything possible that comes by. THEN i piece it all together like a puzzle. And reserve certainty til all my pieces fit satisfactorily. No piece unexplained.

Every reality, from the simplest to the most complex, scientific or historical, is really a detective mystery. The analogy is like Charlie Chan or Peter Falk's Columbo. They begin knowing everyone is lying, even the innocent and the good people. Because they are. Then by accident, tiny bits of truth slip out everywhere. But if you aren't skeptical of ALL your sources, you won't catch those accidental truth pieces. You can't get there without fully assembling the mental puzzle.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 9:27:37 AM

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Finding out what's real, is a hard journey, but the mind gets sharper each time you put the true effort in. My trick is never to confuse dignity for truth. Dignity is just another hidden form of authority, which being authority is almost always wrong. Dignity and respectability are not in the slightest, markers for truth.

What I do, is doubt everything - believe nothing - nothing on its face. Even from favorite sources. But i must read and watch everything possible that comes by. THEN i piece it all together like a puzzle. And reserve certainty til all my pieces fit satisfactorily. No piece unexplained.

Every reality, from the simplest to the most complex, scientific or historical, is really a detective mystery. The analogy is like Charlie Chan or Peter Falk's Columbo. They begin knowing everyone is lying, even the innocent and the good people. Because they are. Then by accident, tiny bits of truth slip out everywhere. But if you aren't skeptical of ALL your sources, you won't catch those accidental truth pieces. You can't get there without fully assembling the mental puzzle.

I fucking A love this, doubt everything, THEN search for the truth!!!
Brilliant post!!!

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 12:04:27 PM

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lucy your #cherry went a long time ago.xx

It pops back every week.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 12:11:31 PM

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It pops back every week.

I'd be auctioning that sucker off for diaper money on a regular basis.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 12:19:02 PM

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LOL

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 12:26:38 PM

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I tend to feel that on the whole the major media can be relied on to present the basic facts pretty reliably, but they are not always so good at the background material. The biggest problem with the mainstream is that they all spin things according to their agendas, and that they are all, especially on TV, to a large degree in the entertainment business. They also have, especially in the US, become more sensationalist and tabloid-like, with flashy graphics and custom logos for each story. Further, the rise of the professional pundits is detrimental to the process of real journalism.

Unfortunately the same can be said of the so-called alternative media sources. They too are primarily agenda driven and sensationalist, and one can rely on their "facts" even less.

As far as accepting what they report at face value, well no, of course not. What I usually do is check the reporting of several different sources regarding whatever story and I find that helps to give one a more balanced (and presumably more truthful) overview of events.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 2:01:28 PM

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What I've tended to notice more and more is the bias in the setting of a focus in this or that part of the media. For instance, in the UK and for many, many years we've seen front page news items about cheating benefits claimants (especially those at the bottom of society). Over the same time scale, though, we've seen far fewer headlines about tax-fiddlers (especially those at the top of society).

One result, I think, is that there are strong feelings here about benefits cheats, though people get far less exercised about tax-fiddlers. It's not that people find the latter less immoral than the former - they just don't have such strong feelings about it. They're focused on the benefits claimants, just as has been the media. If a conversation starts up on the subject of 'cheats', now, people will assume that 'cheats' is shorthand for 'benefits cheats'. They'll fume about such cheats. At some point in the convo you can then say, 'But what about tax fiddlers?' - and people will nod and say, 'Yes, we should get them too' ... but without much interest. The focus will quickly return to benefits cheats. I've witnessed this phenomenon time and again on forums, in pubs, and so on, and for decades, now.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 2:05:45 PM

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I have to say no. There isn't any news source out there that isn't slanted or biased. Yellow journalism isn't the exception. It's the norm.

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 5:10:16 PM

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lucy your #cherry went a long time ago.xx

It pops back every week.

You mean I could have known you, before you were virgin ?

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RE: DO YOU REALLY ??? - 3/31/2016 5:19:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm
Finding out what's real, is a hard journey, but the mind gets sharper each time you put the true effort in. My trick is never to confuse dignity for truth. Dignity is just another hidden form of authority, which being authority is almost always wrong. Dignity and respectability are not in the slightest, markers for truth.
What I do, is doubt everything - believe nothing - nothing on its face. Even from favorite sources. But i must read and watch everything possible that comes by. THEN i piece it all together like a puzzle. And reserve certainty til all my pieces fit satisfactorily. No piece unexplained.
Every reality, from the simplest to the most complex, scientific or historical, is really a detective mystery. The analogy is like Charlie Chan or Peter Falk's Columbo. They begin knowing everyone is lying, even the innocent and the good people. Because they are. Then by accident, tiny bits of truth slip out everywhere. But if you aren't skeptical of ALL your sources, you won't catch those accidental truth pieces. You can't get there without fully assembling the mental puzzle.

I fucking A love this, doubt everything, THEN search for the truth!!!
Brilliant post!!!