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how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 3:36:27 AM   
BondageersT


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everyone pays for sex, one way or the other, in some form, some want love, some want cash.
SO WHAT.
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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 3:40:09 AM   
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I think the problem is, most women do not have to pay for sex with love or cash.

So men are feeling the inequality.

But unfortunately, that's the way it goes. Demand and Supply.


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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 8:23:27 AM   
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quote:

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I think the problem is, most women do not have to pay for sex with love or cash.

So men are feeling the inequality.

But unfortunately, that's the way it goes. Demand and Supply.




Even more so in France today. It's still legal to sell sex there, but now it's illegal to buy it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35982929

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 9:07:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I think the problem is, most women do not have to pay for sex with love or cash.

Men give love to get sex...women give sex to get love.
You on the other hand have told us how little you give and how little you get in return.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 9:15:11 AM   
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Even more so in France today. It's still legal to sell sex there, but now it's illegal to buy it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35982929


This is one effective way to squash the sex trade. Basically instead of prosecuting the sellers, prosecute the buyers. Will make buyers less likely to buy.
It's actually a brilliant plan.
With no buyers, sellers will go out of business.
Need to stop the demand to end the supply.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 9:17:31 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I think the problem is, most women do not have to pay for sex with love or cash.

Men give love to get sex...women give sex to get love.
You on the other hand have told us how little you give and how little you get in return.


Exactly, I don't need to give love or money to have sex. And since I love receiving sex, so I don't see sex as me giving at all.
Sex has nothing to do with love, so I don't need to use sex to get love. If you need to use sex to get love, it's obviously not love but just sex. And I do love just sex for sex.
My payment I need for sex is unlimited multiple orgasms for hours and hours. Pretty steep payment. If you call that getting nothing in return, for me, it's a happy deal!

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 9:18:52 AM   
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OR, we could stop criminalizing consensual adult sex acts altogether.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 9:23:59 AM   
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OR, we could stop criminalizing consensual adult sex acts altogether.


I am not saying I am against prostitution. But I am saying if they want to squash prostitution, this is the better way to do it. Rather than prosecute the prostitutes, they just need to keep prosecuting the buyers. Go after the buyers.

I'm totally for legalizing prostitutes. I live in a country where prostitutes are regulated and legal and the police protect them. I believe prostitution can be conducted in a safe manner for all parties involve if it's heavily regulated by police.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 9:27:07 AM   
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Im thinkin no matter how you make laws, or how you think about it.....

People is gonna be fuckin.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 11:38:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: hot4bondage
Even more so in France today. It's still legal to sell sex there, but now it's illegal to buy it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35982929


This is one effective way to squash the sex trade. Basically instead of prosecuting the sellers, prosecute the buyers. Will make buyers less likely to buy.
It's actually a brilliant plan.
With no buyers, sellers will go out of business.
Need to stop the demand to end the supply.



Bullshit.

Prostitution still occurred when it was illegal for women to do it - you propose making it illegal for men to do it will stop it?

The only thing that has happened is that the power pendulum has changed - instead of prosecuting women that engage in the sex trade, you're now punishing men.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 12:32:23 PM   
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I think I'm gonna, have to fall on the liberal side of this argument. Is there a more "victimless" crime? I say NO. In fact, no victim, no crime. I have needs, she provides a service. It's capitalism at work.

We all prostitute ourselves every day. We go to work. We provide a service to our employers. We get paid. There is no difference with sex workers. This is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard of.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 12:40:53 PM   
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I dont see anything at all liberal about that argument. I think it rather conservative.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 2:52:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC

I think I'm gonna, have to fall on the liberal side of this argument. Is there a more "victimless" crime? I say NO. In fact, no victim, no crime.

So we can put you down for being in favor of removing all laws re:
gambling,homosexuality,suicide,drugs and prostitution?

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 4:01:08 PM   
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two words Monica Lewinski

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 4:24:12 PM   
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Gambling -- Legislators on the left and right in states that don't have casino gambling get bullied by states that do so they can keep the revenue coming to their state. In Texas we have horse racing, dog racing, bingo, lottery but we can't have casinos because there's no gambling allowed in Texas? Bitch, please.....

Homosexuality -- i don't have a problem with what two people do in the privacy of their homes. But when activists force businesses to go out of business because they don't want to photograph their wedding or bakeries losing their business because they won't bake them a cake, when someone just down the street will provide those services, there's your victims. Apples and oranges.

Suicide -- The pain and heartache of loved ones left behind makes victims of those who are left behind. But hey, if you are alone, knock yourself out.

Drugs -- Stealing from strangers to support your habit makes this one of the worse victim creators around. Plus the fact that when your ass winds up in the hospital with no money to pay the bills, my tax dollars go towards paying your bills. Drug addicts should be locked up.

Prostitution -- I'm single. I'm horny. I find a prostitute. I give her money. I fuck her. I leave. NO VICTIM NO CRIME.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 5:00:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC

I think I'm gonna, have to fall on the liberal side of this argument. Is there a more "victimless" crime? I say NO. In fact, no victim, no crime.

So we can put you down for being in favor of removing all laws re:
gambling,homosexuality,suicide,drugs and prostitution?



You can put me on that list. They got no fucking business telling you anything of the sort. Any drug, and consensual act, any transfer of money. Fuck them. Show me in the Constitution where they can tell you what to take in to your body. (hmm, that has a little different slant on it when talking about a prostitute)

Laws are written to make lawmakers or their friends money. They never cared one iota about the People.

And if you do not believe that, look at gambling laws, the fact they busted some old geezers in Florida for playing pinocle for a penny a point, but they have a state lottery.

Don't wonder why I am half crazy against the government, wonder why I am ONLY half crazy against the government. They are a bunch of thieves that have the tools to steal. They don't fucking do anything.

Ever move into a new development ? I some of them you have to pay a share to get the sewer and gas lines in and all that. What the fuck did they do for you ? NOTHING. But then you add that value and they tax you, or they take YOUR PROPERTY away.

I say they should be put to the rack, burned at the stake and beheaded. That oughtta stop them. Fucking sona bitches.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 5:07:46 PM   
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quote:

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two words Monica Lewinski


I almost want to say that was consensual, as she was not forced. However she was working for the Mossad. But then she was doing it in the line of duty. I wonder what she put on her resume' to get that job.

And really, I don't really fault her for that. the problem is that slick Willie should have been working. we pay the motherfucker a few hundred grand a year, he should get his blowjobs in his off time. If my bosses caught me getting a blowjob at work they would, hmmm, no they wouldn't fire me but I bet they would dock me for it.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 5:11:19 PM   
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I don't remember any reports that Monika was Mossad.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 5:41:04 PM   
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Gambling -- Legislators on the left and right in states that don't have casino gambling get bullied by states that do so they can keep the revenue coming to their state. In Texas we have horse racing, dog racing, bingo, lottery but we can't have casinos because there's no gambling allowed in Texas? Bitch, please.....

Homosexuality -- i don't have a problem with what two people do in the privacy of their homes. But when activists force businesses to go out of business because they don't want to photograph their wedding or bakeries losing their business because they won't bake them a cake, when someone just down the street will provide those services, there's your victims. Apples and oranges.

Suicide -- The pain and heartache of loved ones left behind makes victims of those who are left behind. But hey, if you are alone, knock yourself out.

Drugs -- Stealing from strangers to support your habit makes this one of the worse victim creators around. Plus the fact that when your ass winds up in the hospital with no money to pay the bills, my tax dollars go towards paying your bills. Drug addicts should be locked up.

Prostitution -- I'm single. I'm horny. I find a prostitute. I give her money. I fuck her. I leave. NO VICTIM NO CRIME.


Gambling : Yes, it is apparent that states like Nevada would support anti-gambling efforts in surrounding states. You may have read my comment about Florida. And they have a lottery in Ohio for many years but the busted the mayor of Linndale for having slot machines in the bar. (boy that was a cool scam, run a bar and you make more money from DUI tickets than property taxes ! The Coyne family had alot of these suburbs under their realm and made a fortune. The people who ran Linndale IIRC their name was Maston or something like that, but they all knew each other, and my lawyer knew all of them)

Homosexuality : Not so long ago some hick town or whatever down south decided to enforce sodomy laws, which are all unconstitutional. They actually setup sting operations. All the cases were eventually thrown out but the people went to jail, had to post bail and now cannot honestly say they have never been arrested. Thjis is fucking WRONG.

Suicide : Let them do it. Kevorkian should have never been fucked with. And I will tell you this, I intend to commit suicide. It is my right. Not real soon, but when I get infirm, lose all my shit, homeless ad all that, I think I have every right to check out. As far as being alone so as to not hurt others, well my family has already dealt with so much death it does not matter. As of the age of 35 I knew more dead people than alive. Some got killed, some just abused their luck too much, like my favorite cousin. Had the fast cars because we are a car family, but that damn BMW motorcycle, well he zigged when he should have zagged and wrapped his neck around a truck driveshafl. Closed casket.l But really, he made a mistake. It is good he did't take anyone with him. (I am sure he did not intend to die) He was on his motorcycle on a road that had gravel burms. He was passing traffic on the gravel. All the sudden a truck shows up in a driveway, about to try to get out and he dumped the bike, which is what you're supposed to do. Except for that damn driveshaft. He is to blame, I do not excuse it or try to pin it on anyone else. I do not wat the roads rebuilt to accommodate people who do that shit. I have been shot in the face, that is attempted murder. But I do not shy away from guns. Well, same reasoning in a way. If there is a problem, respond, do not react. The world will be alot better off. (not you personally, in general)

Drugs : If they were not illegal there would be very little crime associated with them. they give people food card and these fat bitches go and buy bags of chips and HOHOs and whatever to feed their kids and then plop like $40 down for lottery tickets. And some sell part of their allotment for like 50 %. Anyway, give druggies drug cards. they got heroin so cheap now that they got a friendly government in Afghanistan it ain't funny. You buy an ounce of heroin (or ant opiate) today and 90 % of that money goes for fuel for a US military ship to bring it here. the Taliban banned poppy growing for drug production. It is in their Islamic bylaws. Perhaps extremist, but little known. But is the reason the Taliban had to go.

Prostitution : Now there's a good one. the right way I guess is to connect yourself and your finances to some bitch for the rest of your life. This is not even Judaic because they could say "I divorce you I divorce you I divorce you" and they keep the house. Not here.

I see that prostitution has a new flavor, much milder. You fuck her, she likes you enough to do it again. You bring the beer, wine, weed, whatever she likes. It becomes a habit. Then one day she says "They are about to turn off my cellphone". Seems like that's how it is done now, You get free samples. Just like the supermarket.

People are like animals and 90 % of them are for sale, it is just a matter of price.

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RE: how about this everyone pays... - 4/7/2016 5:52:08 PM   
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I don't remember any reports that Monika was Mossad.


Well of course you didn't get the memo.

But who the hell else sent her ?

You know that scandal that was going on under everyone's nose for YEARS was "discovered" when Bill Clinton said something Israel didn't like. I think he was trying to persuade them to sign the NPT or something like that. In fact is wasn't long before JFK was assassinated that he wrote a letter to David BenGurion threatening to cut off all aid unless they abandoned their nuclear program. They always have people in the whitehose. And in congress. (you look old enough to remember that "congress" also means the senate)

How did we get here ? Damn.

Anyway, alot of law is shaped by forces most people do not understand. think of the government as a schoolyard bully out to take your lunch money and you will begin to understand. Just realize that this bully has bombs, ships and planes, and more guns and ammo than have ever been produced, supposedly.

As long as there is something to take, they will take. Eventually we have nothing and will not give anymore and then their whole system collapses. I hope to live to see that, that's all.

Other than that I can take it or leave it.

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