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Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/9/2016 1:19:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Burr-Feinstein bill would effectively ban strong encryption.

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ORIGINAL: http://www.dailydot.com/politics/encryption-backdoors-legislation-richard-burr-diane-feinstein/
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“This leaked draft of the upcoming Feinstein-Burr bill instructs every tech vendor in America to use either backdoored encryption or no encryption at all, even though practically every security expert in the country would tell you that means laying down our arms in the constant fight to secure or data against thieves, hackers, and spies,” Bankston said in an emailed statement to the Daily Dot.

Bankston also said that the legislation would also result in “massive Internet censorship” because it would require “online platforms like Apple’s App Store and the Google Play Store [to] police their platforms to stop the distribution of secure apps.”

“Indeed,” Bankston added, “I can say without exaggeration that this draft bill is the most ludicrous, dangerous, technically illiterate tech policy proposal of the 21st century so far.”
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ORIGINAL: https://motherboard.vice.com/read/leaked-burr-feinstein-encryption-bill-is-a-threat-to-american-privacy
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If this bill were to pass, it would outlaw secure communications, which are heavily—and increasingly—dependent on end-to-end encryption. By definition, end-to-end encryption cannot be decrypted except by the credentials of the senders and receivers. This is how information that truly needs to be secure is protected, because it minimizes the ways highly sensitive information can be decrypted.
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ORIGINAL: http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=6046
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The absurdity of this bill is beyond words. Due to the technical ineptitude of its authors, combined with a hunger for unconstitutional governmental powers, the end result is a very dangerous document that will weaken the security of America’s technology infrastructure. This will affect everything from the iPhone you hold in your pocket to how data is transmitted over the Internet, allowing the government to effectively break all electronic commerce and Internet security. This is bad legislation in every way, and it very subtly allows for unconstitutional government control of private industry. This bill should be seen for the unconstitutional power grab that it is, and never make it to a vote. The Burr-Feinstein bill, in short, punishes American companies for being “too secure”, and forces them to redesign their products to be vulnerable and inferior in security to their foreign competitors – putting everyone at risk.
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ORIGINAL: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-encryption-legislation-idUSKCN0X52CG
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“For the first time in America, companies that want to protect their customers with stronger security will not have that choice,” Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat and vocal privacy advocate told reporters Friday. “They will be required by federal law per this statute to decide how to weaken their products to make Americans less safe.”
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ORIGINAL: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/04/burr-feinstein-proposal-simply-anti-security
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The draft shows how out of touch Senate Intelligence Committee leaders Sens. Burr and Feinstein are with the needs of the American people. Millions of Americans suffer the loss, theft, or compromise of intimate communications, trade secrets, and identities each year. We desperately need more security, not less. Yet this bill would strongly discourage companies from providing it. The draft should never be introduced in a bill and should never advance in the Senate.

It's also unclear why this bill was drafted for the Senate Intelligence Committee. The committee does not have jurisdiction over this issue, and similar bills—like the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA)—were overseen by the Judiciary and Commerce Committees.
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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/9/2016 9:15:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I made it as far as the definition of an Indian tribe. I am not surprised govt. wants to go this far and I am not surprised that this draft is a non-partisan affair, at least...so far. I see a dem and and repub have already spoken harshly of it. So it seems that some in Congress are already all over it.

Let's hope it dies a quick death. But this may be just the first foray in the battle for the coming 4th Reich and its courts...co-opting all electronic privacy. You no longer have any de facto privacy in your 'persons, places or things.' So.....?

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 4:56:59 AM   
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The Burr-Feinstein bill would effectively ban strong encryption.

I am not too familiar with senator burr but feinstein is a moron with her head so far up her ass she needs a periscope to see where she is going.

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 5:42:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not surprised Feinstein is involved. That fucking bitch has no idea what the Constitution means. I can't believe people keep electing her but I heard alot of the time she is running unopposed.

She has no right to be in US government whatsoever, and if she gets ANY votes at all that proves how fucking stupid people are. Or vote fraud, one or the other.

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 5:44:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: ifmaz

The Burr-Feinstein bill would effectively ban strong encryption.

I am not too familiar with senator burr but feinstein is a moron with her head so far up her ass she needs a periscope to see where she is going.



Again, we agree. Alert the media.

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 5:55:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I found these particularly tweets funny, but they also provide a rather poignant illumination on those we've elected to govern the US.

http://www.wired.com/2016/04/senates-draft-encryption-bill-privacy-nightmare/


We (those of us in the US anyway) have a 61 year old man with a college degree in communications who spent 17 years as a lawn equipment sales manager chairing the Senate Intelligence Committee, and an 82 year old woman with a degree in history who has been in politics for an awful long time as the former chair of the same committee and is the ranking Democrat on that Committee. In both instances, we have two people leading the Committee in an area where they have little to no expertise or training (depending on what Burr's communications degree entailed).

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/about
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    Mission: The Committee was created by the Senate in 1976 to “oversee and make continuing studies of the intelligence activities and programs of the United States Government,” to “submit to the Senate appropriate proposals for legislation and report to the Senate concerning such intelligence activities and programs,” and to “provide vigilant legislative oversight over the intelligence activities of the United States to assure that such activities are in conformity with the Constitution and laws of the United States.”


This should be an affront to every American. Damn.

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 6:43:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		You think that's it Des ?

Every President elected in this century belongs in jail. I shit you not.

Think they got there by being nice ?

Well wait a minute, maybe Obama didn't do anything yet, and the there's Teddy Roosevelt. So maybe there are a couple who do not belong in jail. But not many.

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 6:53:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

I found these particularly tweets funny, but they also provide a rather poignant illumination on those we've elected to govern the US.

http://www.wired.com/2016/04/senates-draft-encryption-bill-privacy-nightmare/


We (those of us in the US anyway) have a 61 year old man with a college degree in communications who spent 17 years as a lawn equipment sales manager chairing the Senate Intelligence Committee, and an 82 year old woman with a degree in history who has been in politics for an awful long time as the former chair of the same committee and is the ranking Democrat on that Committee. In both instances, we have two people leading the Committee in an area where they have little to no expertise or training (depending on what Burr's communications degree entailed).

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/about
    quote:

    Mission: The Committee was created by the Senate in 1976 to “oversee and make continuing studies of the intelligence activities and programs of the United States Government,” to “submit to the Senate appropriate proposals for legislation and report to the Senate concerning such intelligence activities and programs,” and to “provide vigilant legislative oversight over the intelligence activities of the United States to assure that such activities are in conformity with the Constitution and laws of the United States.”


This should be an affront to every American. Damn.


It should be pointed out that the aforesaid woman has a very rich husband who profits heavily from her insider knowledge. For instance he just pulled down a huge contract on the insane State of California bullet train project that is a pure boondoggle. She's been so safe in the People's Republic of California for so long she doesn't even try to hide it anymore.

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 6:57:31 AM   
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I don't like the scare tactic employed by the title of the thread.

Are there three scarier words in the English language than: "Congress", "pushes", and "ban", when used in the same sentence?



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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 7:25:13 AM   
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Not surprised Feinstein is involved. That fucking bitch has no idea what the Constitution means. I can't believe people keep electing her but I heard alot of the time she is running unopposed.


More than half the people should not be in Congress! Frankly I think we the people should set down some REAL standards for those wishing to represent our districts and states in Congress. The first would be requiring a BS/BA degree from an accredited college or university with a 3.0 GPA (so that some conservatives could actually run....). Require they only use funds from their day job and no other funds from any other source. Yeah, that would be a good start towards a better Congress. Maybe add in a rule that every three months the people are allowed a vote on how well Congress is doing as a whole. For every 5% below 100%, we execute 'x' people. That way, they are well motivated to get shit done that the bottom 99% want.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
She has no right to be in US government whatsoever, and if she gets ANY votes at all that proves how fucking stupid people are. Or vote fraud, one or the other.


Unfortunately she has a right to be in the US Government. She got elected. Yes, I know, she is terrible at government; but then, so is 100% of the Republican/Tea Party in our government.....

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 8:26:29 AM   
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who cares you have no freedom even caged monkeys know that

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 8:32:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Not surprised Feinstein is involved. That fucking bitch has no idea what the Constitution means. I can't believe people keep electing her but I heard alot of the time she is running unopposed.


More than half the people should not be in Congress! Frankly I think we the people should set down some REAL standards for those wishing to represent our districts and states in Congress. The first would be requiring a BS/BA degree from an accredited college or university with a 3.0 GPA (so that some conservatives could actually run....). Require they only use funds from their day job and no other funds from any other source. Yeah, that would be a good start towards a better Congress. Maybe add in a rule that every three months the people are allowed a vote on how well Congress is doing as a whole. For every 5% below 100%, we execute 'x' people. That way, they are well motivated to get shit done that the bottom 99% want.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
She has no right to be in US government whatsoever, and if she gets ANY votes at all that proves how fucking stupid people are. Or vote fraud, one or the other.


Unfortunately she has a right to be in the US Government. She got elected. Yes, I know, she is terrible at government; but then, so is 100% of the Republican/Tea Party in our government.....



Well, until you had to stick in your political bias you were doing okay. I was thinking of commenting that your idea may require a change to the Constitution, since it does set qualification to being in Congress. But, then your idea would also exclude all those blue collar Union people who vote your side. They might get a little testy with your idea.

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 4:04:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
It should be pointed out that the aforesaid woman has a very rich husband who profits heavily from her insider knowledge. For instance he just pulled down a huge contract on the insane State of California bullet train project that is a pure boondoggle. She's been so safe in the People's Republic of California for so long she doesn't even try to hide it anymore.


As true as it may be, it has no bearing on Feinstein's lack of any sort of qualification for the Senate Intelligence Committee, other than she's a Senator. And, so as to not be a simple partisan, I doubt Burr has any more qualification than Feinstein, though, that hinges completely on his specific communications degree (which still won't give him much qualifications anyway).


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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 4:06:34 PM   
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I don't like the scare tactic employed by the title of the thread.
Are there three scarier words in the English language than: "Congress", "pushes", and "ban", when used in the same sentence?
Michael


"Government," "here," and "help?"


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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 4:46:48 PM   
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You think that's it Des ?

Every President elected in this century belongs in jail. I shit you not.

Think they got there by being nice ?

Well wait a minute, maybe Obama didn't do anything yet, and the there's Teddy Roosevelt. So maybe there are a couple who do not belong in jail. But not many.

Dig that punkassmothrfucker up and put his corps in the same jail cell with lee bacca and tanaka.

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 4:57:22 PM   
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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 5:01:45 PM   
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Wow, now that's a really fucking stupid idea (the bill). Hell I bet the Chinsese are all for it

I can think of those closer to home who would be in favor of it. Hack the bank and have them issue you a sack full of benjamins....I could get by with 22 pounds of them...I am not greedy and I would surely die before I could spend it all.

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 8:34:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Not surprised Feinstein is involved. That fucking bitch has no idea what the Constitution means. I can't believe people keep electing her but I heard alot of the time she is running unopposed.


More than half the people should not be in Congress! Frankly I think we the people should set down some REAL standards for those wishing to represent our districts and states in Congress. The first would be requiring a BS/BA degree from an accredited college or university with a 3.0 GPA (so that some conservatives could actually run....). Require they only use funds from their day job and no other funds from any other source. Yeah, that would be a good start towards a better Congress. Maybe add in a rule that every three months the people are allowed a vote on how well Congress is doing as a whole. For every 5% below 100%, we execute 'x' people. That way, they are well motivated to get shit done that the bottom 99% want.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
She has no right to be in US government whatsoever, and if she gets ANY votes at all that proves how fucking stupid people are. Or vote fraud, one or the other.


Unfortunately she has a right to be in the US Government. She got elected. Yes, I know, she is terrible at government; but then, so is 100% of the Republican/Tea Party in our government.....


With the fucked up education system here I think the GPA is not the correct measure. After all, Obama passed and he has no fucking idea what the Constitution means. But then, did he go to Harvard ? That is where they caught a bunch of people cheating, and then we heard no more about it. Remember that ?

I think the voters, or maybe the parties, or the new parties should question them. You can buy a GPA and with this legitimate rape shit I doubt they could have passed grade school honestly. Just passed on. They did that all the time. Motherfuckers so stoooopid they ask what amp fuse to replace a 5 amp. And when the five amp blows again they figure to put in a ten. I hope they burn their face off.

the wrong people are in control. This is crystal clear. How to fix that however, is not. They are in control of the military and the guns, and they are so fucking stoooopid they do not realize that they cannot exist without us. The people who produce. They have o real skills, and aren't up to learning them now. In a way they are stuck, they will never be able to become useful members of society. And that is true of at least 80 % of the politicians in this country. Community organizer, what kind of fucking bullshit is that ? And that guy is the chief of them !

Republicans, no better. GW Bush could not find oil in Texas, ran a shitload of businesses into the ground but always got financed. his failures were rewarded, so guess what he learned to do. Clinton cooked the books to make it like he has a surplus, but really just deferred some things.

And now, we got a couple of hundred trillion in unfunded expenses coming up. Even the Rothschilds don't have enough money to fix that, even if they cared to.

This country is going to default on the national debt. All imports, which is most of what we have, are going to skyrocket in price. The bright side is that this will make it ore attractive to start a business here. So, in 20 yers we can raise a generation with a decent education and a work ethic.

In the meantime, the lower classes are probably going to have to resort to cannibalism. (predicted by the late Dr. Pierce)

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 8:40:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Not surprised Feinstein is involved. That fucking bitch has no idea what the Constitution means. I can't believe people keep electing her but I heard alot of the time she is running unopposed.


More than half the people should not be in Congress! Frankly I think we the people should set down some REAL standards for those wishing to represent our districts and states in Congress. The first would be requiring a BS/BA degree from an accredited college or university with a 3.0 GPA (so that some conservatives could actually run....). Require they only use funds from their day job and no other funds from any other source. Yeah, that would be a good start towards a better Congress. Maybe add in a rule that every three months the people are allowed a vote on how well Congress is doing as a whole. For every 5% below 100%, we execute 'x' people. That way, they are well motivated to get shit done that the bottom 99% want.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
She has no right to be in US government whatsoever, and if she gets ANY votes at all that proves how fucking stupid people are. Or vote fraud, one or the other.


Unfortunately she has a right to be in the US Government. She got elected. Yes, I know, she is terrible at government; but then, so is 100% of the Republican/Tea Party in our government.....


Show me Obama's resume' and GPA.

Can't do it.

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RE: Congress pushes to ban strong encryption - 4/10/2016 8:54:44 PM   
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Show me Obama's resume' and GPA.

Why do you want to see his gpa?
As far as his resume is concerned that can be found on google. Everything the punk ever did and a lot of shit he never thought of doing. You can find the hut in kenya but ignore the birth certificate in hawaii.
When you listen to folks with an agenda you will most certainly learn their agenda. If it agrees with your own bingo you have proved you are as phoquing stupid as they are. I think they call that confirmational bias.

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