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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/21/2016 11:02:12 AM   
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and you are able to judge a persons worth at jobs? Citation, your curriculum vitae for starters.



Sure, just as soon as you and Lucy do so. In the interim...well don't hold your breath.

how the fuck did I get dragged into a CV proving chest thump

*clean up aisle five*

You did it by saying my response to Zonie wasn't factual, being bitchy and the skipping out without citations where I was not factual. Why does that surprise you? From what I see its your usual tact.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/21/2016 11:04:51 AM   
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I have to ask since McDonalds isn't unionized and has no contract purse. So which contract is minimum wage laws a response to?

Our Social Contract.


Not to any social contract I agreed to.

Contracted by the Founders in the Liberty grant of the Declaration of Independence.

Unregulated markets and corporations will destroy individual liberties of wage earners, mom/pop shops, and family farms. It is happening now. Look around.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/21/2016 11:05:49 AM   
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well the rest of your post was so laughable...mixing socialism and communism seems to be another sticking point for you STILL, apart from the fact you spout clear bullshit.
I wasnt being a bitch, I was merely pointing out your innumeracy, if you want me to be a bitch, I could go thru your post line by line, but you arent worth the keystrokes.
You were wrong, admit it.
Or dont.
the derision comes free
*bends over so you CAN kiss my lilly white arse.*


Go through line by line.

Honey I dont take orders, I barely take suggestions.
you aint worth the muscles( laughin)

Sure I understand. You use don't and can't interchangeably. You basically relegate yourself to brooding cheerleader with no ability to discuss or converse beyond, "what he said." Got it.

I'm sorry you seem unable to discern the difference between
A)Me really not giving a flying fig about your needs and petty wants, Oh and WONT take orders from you can be added to your can't and don't list as well
&
B) My ability to call you out ,because you were attacking Zonie using idiotic and factually ignorant statements. WHAT you claimed was factually wrong.




I guess it hurt your feelings when I mentioned you mean nothing to me some time ago. Sorry, it's still the case. You'll have to expose what was factually wrong with what I said to Zonie. It's how debates work, or you're just spewing drivel.

yet you keep posting to me.... Actually the thought of me "meaning" something to you, lol just made me throw up a little, honestly Id rather try an pick up a turd by the clean end.

PS this is what you said that was factually wrong to Zonie
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Seriously, your family came after the Revolution. Oh that explains it. One of the brawn brought over to work the shovel. They never really could think. They always did resent "The Man" and thought, "If only I were in charge things would be perfect."




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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/21/2016 11:16:07 AM   
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I have to ask since McDonalds isn't unionized and has no contract purse. So which contract is minimum wage laws a response to?

Our Social Contract.


Not to any social contract I agreed to.

Contracted by the Founders in the Liberty grant of the Declaration of Independence.

Unregulated markets and corporations will destroy individual liberties of wage earners, mom/pop shops, and family farms. It is happening now. Look around.


Cite please. Please show where the constitution says anything about minimum wage.
I'll spot you the declaration while you're at it.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/21/2016 11:19:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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well the rest of your post was so laughable...mixing socialism and communism seems to be another sticking point for you STILL, apart from the fact you spout clear bullshit.
I wasnt being a bitch, I was merely pointing out your innumeracy, if you want me to be a bitch, I could go thru your post line by line, but you arent worth the keystrokes.
You were wrong, admit it.
Or dont.
the derision comes free
*bends over so you CAN kiss my lilly white arse.*


Go through line by line.

Honey I dont take orders, I barely take suggestions.
you aint worth the muscles( laughin)

Sure I understand. You use don't and can't interchangeably. You basically relegate yourself to brooding cheerleader with no ability to discuss or converse beyond, "what he said." Got it.

I'm sorry you seem unable to discern the difference between
A)Me really not giving a flying fig about your needs and petty wants, Oh and WONT take orders from you can be added to your can't and don't list as well
&
B) My ability to call you out ,because you were attacking Zonie using idiotic and factually ignorant statements. WHAT you claimed was factually wrong.




I guess it hurt your feelings when I mentioned you mean nothing to me some time ago. Sorry, it's still the case. You'll have to expose what was factually wrong with what I said to Zonie. It's how debates work, or you're just spewing drivel.

yet you keep posting to me.... Actually the thought of me "meaning" something to you, lol just made me throw up a little, honestly Id rather try an pick up a turd by the clean end.

PS this is what you said that was factually wrong to Zonie
quote:

Seriously, your family came after the Revolution. Oh that explains it. One of the brawn brought over to work the shovel. They never really could think. They always did resent "The Man" and thought, "If only I were in charge things would be perfect."




Well, you were correct about that, I was in error and cop'd to it immediately. Yet you made comments about my comments to Zonie on his unrealistic communist take of the world. You've yet to cite anything for that. This whole discussion has been about your lack of cite there. Glad to see we're on the same page now and you'll cite the things I was in error about regarding Zonies main points.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/21/2016 11:32:20 AM   
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Well, you were correct about that, I was in error and cop'd to it immediately. Yet you made comments about my comments to Zonie on his unrealistic communist take of the world. You've yet to cite anything for that. This whole discussion has been about your lack of cite there. Glad to see we're on the same page now and you'll cite the things I was in error about regarding Zonies main points.


no I responded to that too..remember, post 320 that you couldnt google. Then all the other posts. Im not doing your bidding,
oh and commenting
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Oh kisses to you sweet thing. We found your value. Find one little error in an entire discussion and be a bitch about it in some reference to that making you smart and other people dumb. Sorta like a leftist intellectual trophy to drape on the arm in public.

isnt "copping" to anything.

You can go around in circles if you wish.
maybe if you do it right you can disappear into your own fundamental orifice.
Im done having fun with you now... keep giving me more tho its so amusing
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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/21/2016 11:37:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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I have to ask since McDonalds isn't unionized and has no contract purse. So which contract is minimum wage laws a response to?

Our Social Contract.


Not to any social contract I agreed to.

Contracted by the Founders in the Liberty grant of the Declaration of Independence.

Unregulated markets and corporations will destroy individual liberties of wage earners, mom/pop shops, and family farms. It is happening now. Look around.


Cite please. Please show where the constitution says anything about minimum wage.
I'll spot you the declaration while you're at it.

Implicit in the General Welfare Clause of the Constitution. Implicit in the regulation of interstate commerce. Explicit in the dignity of human persons and cyborgs; Not corporations.


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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/21/2016 11:43:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

I have to ask since McDonalds isn't unionized and has no contract purse. So which contract is minimum wage laws a response to?

Our Social Contract.


Not to any social contract I agreed to.

Contracted by the Founders in the Liberty grant of the Declaration of Independence.

Unregulated markets and corporations will destroy individual liberties of wage earners, mom/pop shops, and family farms. It is happening now. Look around.


Cite please. Please show where the constitution says anything about minimum wage.
I'll spot you the declaration while you're at it.

Implicit in the General Welfare Clause of the Constitution. Implicit in the regulation of interstate commerce. Explicit in the dignity of human persons and cyborgs; Not corporations.



I will say that communists eschew the part of the Constitution that limits governments and is always looking for "implicit" things it doesn't mention but may allow. It's the idea of the Constitution being a living breathing document. So in my opinion, it's not really a social contract because you see it so, as Thompson really likes to point out, opinions vary. So perhaps you'll cite where this has been a subject of national discourse and decided, or adopted, to actually be in existence rather than implicit?

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/21/2016 11:47:34 AM   
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Well, you were correct about that, I was in error and cop'd to it immediately. Yet you made comments about my comments to Zonie on his unrealistic communist take of the world. You've yet to cite anything for that. This whole discussion has been about your lack of cite there. Glad to see we're on the same page now and you'll cite the things I was in error about regarding Zonies main points.


no I responded to that too..remember, post 320 that you couldnt google. Then all the other posts. Im not doing your bidding,
oh and commenting
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Oh kisses to you sweet thing. We found your value. Find one little error in an entire discussion and be a bitch about it in some reference to that making you smart and other people dumb. Sorta like a leftist intellectual trophy to drape on the arm in public.

isnt "copping" to anything.

You can go around in circles if you wish.
maybe if you do it right you can disappear into your own fundamental orifice.
Im done having fun with you now... keep giving me more tho its so amusing
ta-ta

Again, I gave you credit for catching an error and asked for a cite on relevant discussion. I'm being pretty consistent in that request. We'll see if you quit circling. I know it really really hurts you not to have the last word...or pretty little foot stomp. So I'll let you now. Provide a cite for relevant discussion or evade. You pick and I'll let that record stand.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/21/2016 11:59:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

I have to ask since McDonalds isn't unionized and has no contract purse. So which contract is minimum wage laws a response to?

Our Social Contract.


Not to any social contract I agreed to.

Contracted by the Founders in the Liberty grant of the Declaration of Independence.

Unregulated markets and corporations will destroy individual liberties of wage earners, mom/pop shops, and family farms. It is happening now. Look around.


Cite please. Please show where the constitution says anything about minimum wage.
I'll spot you the declaration while you're at it.

Implicit in the General Welfare Clause of the Constitution. Implicit in the regulation of interstate commerce. Explicit in the dignity of human persons and cyborgs; Not corporations.




LOLOLOLOL

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/22/2016 5:13:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

I have to ask since McDonalds isn't unionized and has no contract purse. So which contract is minimum wage laws a response to?

Our Social Contract.


Not to any social contract I agreed to.

Contracted by the Founders in the Liberty grant of the Declaration of Independence.

Unregulated markets and corporations will destroy individual liberties of wage earners, mom/pop shops, and family farms. It is happening now. Look around.


Cite please. Please show where the constitution says anything about minimum wage.
I'll spot you the declaration while you're at it.

Implicit in the General Welfare Clause of the Constitution. Implicit in the regulation of interstate commerce. Explicit in the dignity of human persons and cyborgs; Not corporations.




LOLOLOLOL

Not an unexpected reply to the concept of human dignity from a corporate flunky who has drunk the Kool Aid of unfettered free markets and is blind to the damage done to our liberties by the corporate state.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/22/2016 6:28:11 AM   
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I will say that communists eschew the part of the Constitution that limits governments and is always looking for "implicit" things it doesn't mention but may allow. It's the idea of the Constitution being a living breathing document. So in my opinion, it's not really a social contract because you see it so, as Thompson really likes to point out, opinions vary. So perhaps you'll cite where this has been a subject of national discourse and decided, or adopted, to actually be in existence rather than implicit?


I will say that nutsuckers eschew the part of the constitution that speaks on the limits of government and yet do not understand what it means.

all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people.

We, the People. Or state governments. Viola. Gay marriage, We, the People. Corporations are people too, my friend. And money is free speech.



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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/22/2016 7:34:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

I have to ask since McDonalds isn't unionized and has no contract purse. So which contract is minimum wage laws a response to?

Our Social Contract.


Not to any social contract I agreed to.

Contracted by the Founders in the Liberty grant of the Declaration of Independence.

Unregulated markets and corporations will destroy individual liberties of wage earners, mom/pop shops, and family farms. It is happening now. Look around.


Cite please. Please show where the constitution says anything about minimum wage.
I'll spot you the declaration while you're at it.

Implicit in the General Welfare Clause of the Constitution. Implicit in the regulation of interstate commerce. Explicit in the dignity of human persons and cyborgs; Not corporations.




LOLOLOLOL

Not an unexpected reply to the concept of human dignity from a corporate flunky who has drunk the Kool Aid of unfettered free markets and is blind to the damage done to our liberties by the corporate state.


Not an unexpected personal attack from someone that lacks the intellectual honesty to admit his position has no factual underpinnings. How ironic that he who spouts on human dignity possesses none, and seeks to denigrate other's.


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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/22/2016 7:37:35 AM   
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I will say that communists eschew the part of the Constitution that limits governments and is always looking for "implicit" things it doesn't mention but may allow. It's the idea of the Constitution being a living breathing document. So in my opinion, it's not really a social contract because you see it so, as Thompson really likes to point out, opinions vary. So perhaps you'll cite where this has been a subject of national discourse and decided, or adopted, to actually be in existence rather than implicit?


I will say that nutsuckers eschew the part of the constitution that speaks on the limits of government and yet do not understand what it means.

all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people.

We, the People. Or state governments. Viola. Gay marriage, We, the People. Corporations are people too, my friend. And money is free speech.




Counter factual.

We on the right celebrate the power of the people, when it is achieved according to the rules we all agree to. You want to outlaw money in politics - pass an amendment.


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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/22/2016 8:03:49 AM   
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I will say that communists eschew the part of the Constitution that limits governments and is always looking for "implicit" things it doesn't mention but may allow. It's the idea of the Constitution being a living breathing document. So in my opinion, it's not really a social contract because you see it so, as Thompson really likes to point out, opinions vary. So perhaps you'll cite where this has been a subject of national discourse and decided, or adopted, to actually be in existence rather than implicit?


I will say that nutsuckers eschew the part of the constitution that speaks on the limits of government and yet do not understand what it means.

all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people.

We, the People. Or state governments. Viola. Gay marriage, We, the People. Corporations are people too, my friend. And money is free speech.



That's a very reasonable and powerful arguement. It's a cogent argument for limiting the size and power of the government. It's not a reasonable argument for limiting the speech of the people.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/22/2016 8:06:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

I have to ask since McDonalds isn't unionized and has no contract purse. So which contract is minimum wage laws a response to?

Our Social Contract.


Not to any social contract I agreed to.

Contracted by the Founders in the Liberty grant of the Declaration of Independence.

Unregulated markets and corporations will destroy individual liberties of wage earners, mom/pop shops, and family farms. It is happening now. Look around.


Cite please. Please show where the constitution says anything about minimum wage.
I'll spot you the declaration while you're at it.

Implicit in the General Welfare Clause of the Constitution. Implicit in the regulation of interstate commerce. Explicit in the dignity of human persons and cyborgs; Not corporations.




LOLOLOLOL

Not an unexpected reply to the concept of human dignity from a corporate flunky who has drunk the Kool Aid of unfettered free markets and is blind to the damage done to our liberties by the corporate state.

Oh this statement is full of the compassion of liberation theology. It could have been better if you added "nener nener" at the end.

< Message edited by Nnanji -- 4/22/2016 8:07:08 AM >

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/22/2016 1:12:39 PM   
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Nnanji . . . .

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Oh this statement is full of the compassion of liberation theology. It could have been better if you added "nener nener" at the end.


nener nener?? wtf? Must be vocabulary you learned in business school. Maybe in EXPLOITATION 101 ? Or some other class in the Greed Curriculum?

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/25/2016 10:22:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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I will say that communists eschew the part of the Constitution that limits governments and is always looking for "implicit" things it doesn't mention but may allow. It's the idea of the Constitution being a living breathing document. So in my opinion, it's not really a social contract because you see it so, as Thompson really likes to point out, opinions vary. So perhaps you'll cite where this has been a subject of national discourse and decided, or adopted, to actually be in existence rather than implicit?


I will say that nutsuckers eschew the part of the constitution that speaks on the limits of government and yet do not understand what it means.

all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people.

We, the People. Or state governments. Viola. Gay marriage, We, the People. Corporations are people too, my friend. And money is free speech.




Counter factual.

We on the right celebrate the power of the people, when it is achieved according to the rules we all agree to. You want to outlaw money in politics - pass an amendment.




It is not counter factual, and you are posting something to do with nothing in response. I agree that money probably needs an amendment, but we are talking something all together different.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/25/2016 10:27:10 AM   
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I will say that communists eschew the part of the Constitution that limits governments and is always looking for "implicit" things it doesn't mention but may allow. It's the idea of the Constitution being a living breathing document. So in my opinion, it's not really a social contract because you see it so, as Thompson really likes to point out, opinions vary. So perhaps you'll cite where this has been a subject of national discourse and decided, or adopted, to actually be in existence rather than implicit?


I will say that nutsuckers eschew the part of the constitution that speaks on the limits of government and yet do not understand what it means.

all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people.

We, the People. Or state governments. Viola. Gay marriage, We, the People. Corporations are people too, my friend. And money is free speech.



That's a very reasonable and powerful arguement. It's a cogent argument for limiting the size and power of the government. It's not a reasonable argument for limiting the speech of the people.



We have limited the size and power of the government. We no longer buy lands from people they dont belong to and put them in our US.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/historical-tables/total-government-employment-since-1962/

We have been shrinking government. Also note: for the innumerates it shrinks two ways over time, because our population has grown, our government per capita is also lessened.



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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/25/2016 11:29:09 AM   
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Not an unexpected personal attack from someone that lacks the intellectual honesty to admit his position has no factual underpinnings. How ironic that he who spouts on human dignity possesses none, and seeks to denigrate other's.

Don't know how you can say my position has no underpinnings after you gave me the Liberty grant in the Declaration and failed to answer my proffer of the General Welfare clause and regulation of interstate commerce in the Constitution, and you failed to address my proposition that we have a social contract.

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