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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 6:46:51 AM

IndigoDadesi

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Noah:

I have to clarify here. SOMETIMES he does forget to brush his teeth. I dont really understand how, but he does...however, in his defense he does open the pickle jar for me like a pro.

Do you really think I need a counterpart?!

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 6:53:21 AM

IndigoDadesi

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Aileen68:

Yes I suppose he could be offended. OR he could be happy that Im spending this much time trying to overcome and work around my "ongoing reaction". IMHO taking offense to something in a relationship is just another way of being defensive and really is just not constructive to bettering the relationship, or the people in it.

I do like the first bit of your post though. I realize an ass is an ass is an ass. Ive been told it tastes like skin. Skins ok, nothing wrong with skin. But just because I want to give him a blowjob doesnt mean I want to take a shot in the mouth, if you take my meaning. Its not the skin Im worried about.

< Message edited by IndigoDadesi -- 7/21/2006 7:06:10 AM >

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 7:02:21 AM

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Sunshine: I know what you mean. I like my boy best an hour or so after hes had a shower because he smells so damn sexy. First thing in the morning is fantastic. Soon as he gets home though: welding rod and stale sweat. Just not my cup of tea, so to speak.

SusanofO: Its not THAT serious of a thread. Its ok to laugh, I swear.

darkinshadows: Thanks for the tips. I had no idea about the toothpaste thing. Ive had enough trouble as it is convincing the "good bacteria" to stay put.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 7:07:17 AM

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Assuming you aren't a no-limits slave, or something like that ... why don't you just establish it as one of your hard limits.

Tell him it ruins your sex drive. That works on all men ... even the one's that will talk shit and say it doesn't.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 7:20:54 AM

IndigoDadesi

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caitlyn: I think you may be misreading my first post. Im the Domme and he's the slave and rimming is my idea so saying its a hard limit for me is kind of counter productive.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 7:47:09 AM

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Indigo: Thanks. Okay then. I will laugh at what Nasty Daddy said, too, because he reminded me when he said it of my own real, biological father, whose favorite line on camping trips, whenever we complained - about anything (one time my sister complained there was nowhere to plug in her electric hot rollers) - said things to us like:

"Well, girls! You are actually living in near heaven because you are in the 20th century. You have air conditioning at home, and grocery stores, and we have a car. Count your blessings" Then he would go on to tell us that mankind was actually created to be able to live just about anywhere, and how we could all live in a cave with just fire and animal skins, if we had to do it. etc., etc. (If I recall correctly, my sister tossed one of her hot rollers at him "accidentally" during one of these "conversations" on the camping trip, during which a garter snake crawled into her sleeping bag as well).

Personally, I like clean people, too, but don't mind sweat and someone who hasn't showered all day, either. The teeth brushing thing might really get to me, though.

This thread was just a riot (I do understand your point, Indigo. I do).

- Susan.

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 7/21/2006 8:05:42 AM >

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 8:07:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: Sunshine119

But, when he hasn't showered in a few hours, I can smell HIM. His pheremones drive me nuts! When I am nuzzling his sack, His smell is what causes me to fall into a deep submissive state. We have talked about this a few times. It is all about the smell.

Yep, its all about the pheremones... omg I think Id better call him soon... Ha Ha

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 8:16:13 AM

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SusanofO: Thats a funny story. My boy and I just went camping together for the first time. We were debating before hand endlessly about what actually constitutes as camping. He's the hike into the wilderness and crap behind a bush kind of guy. I prefer to atleast have an outhouse and some source of cleanish water near by. We were acutally supposed to go for a week so I wanted to stay somewhere with a shower. We finally were able to comprimise on a campsite with an out house and pump for water which was by a river where I could dip in a bathe (cold as it was). It turned out to be fantastic. The only thing was that neither of us could get a campfire going the whole time we were gone. We ended up at our neighbours campsite every evening to drink and roast marshmallows.

And thanks, I didnt think I was WAY out in left field for insisting on a little hygiene. Actually the teeth thing is my biggest problem too. Nothing worse than bad breath when you want to kiss the one you love.

< Message edited by IndigoDadesi -- 7/21/2006 8:19:08 AM >

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 9:11:40 AM

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I understand what Noah said, but also had not thought of what caitlyn said:
Especially if you are the Domme here, you could actually just demand/request this (being freshly showered befire bed, or bdsm activity) be part of your relationship together.

Personally, (but I am submissive) if I were going to broach this topic with someone, I'd really soft pedal it (but I am sure he'd get the point, you probably wouldn't be with him if he was dense, right?) Make sure he knows you are not purposely trying to hurt his feelings, and how much you appreciate him, and that this is your issue, etc. My guess is that he would most likely do what you want; he must care about you as well. Good luck, Indigo.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 10:04:33 AM

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Now I am really wondering how other people feel about this issue, too. Not specific to Indigo, but in general.

- Susan

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 10:26:14 AM

IndigoDadesi

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Yea, hence the topic. Ive never read another one like it one here.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 10:32:11 AM

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Well I am wondering because I am a "neat freak" (mostly in terms of myself, and housekeeping, but still) - I've never had to say anything to anyone along the llines of the issue you are relating, Indigo - but in my one and only relationship, I didn't live with the person I was seeing, and when we did see eachother, it was an "event" that we both planned for - that is why I am wondering about it, and how other people handle this kind of thing if they are in a 24/7 relationship with eachother (my dead husband doesn't really count here, because he was as big a neat freak as me, and also we very, very rarely had sex).

- Susan

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 10:53:29 AM

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There are a lot of people who relish in the scent of their partner. There are also a lot of people who dont want to taste or smell anything close to sweat when they engage physically.

A particular submissive I know rotates between her home and her Dom's for periods of three to four days. She is not allowed to use any soap or anything that is scented for three days prior to being in the presence of her Dom and when they are together, she asks permission to shower or use anything scented. He showers (or doesnt shower) as he chooses. I would venture to say that she is not at liberty to refuse to service him as he desires regardless of his relative hygienic state.

Of course I also know a couple (vanilla) who NEVER have sex unless they shower or bathe first. They make it part of their foreplay. It works for both of them, so they dont consider it "an issue". It's just what they do.

A lot of poeple who want to explore the anus (with whatever various and sundry other body parts are doing the exploring) take enemas first, including it in their foreplay or, in the case of kinksters, the enema itself can be an order given by the dominant partner earlier in the day or given in the presence of the dominant as part of the "scene".

I personally can not imagine keeping a set of latex gloves at the bedside. But, then again, Ive always had a certain fascination with medical kink...so who knows it might be a downright gas to hear the SNAP of the glove before feeling whatever intrusion awaits me.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 11:02:42 AM

Bearlee

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quote:

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so who knows it might be a downright gas ...

I'm one of those people who enjoy the scent of man...nuzzling his armpits, his ballsack, licking, rimming, touching, sniffing his various parts. (yeah, I'm a sick puppy LOL)

Still, I think I'd just die if things turned out to be downright gas!

har har har...good play on words, kiddo!!! <giggles wildly>

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 11:08:31 AM

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Well, I like ass play not on me but on my sub or slave.
One thing you can do beforehand is take two enemas, shower up real good then rub the area copiously with straight alchohol to sterilize it. Alchohol will kill any germs, they used it to sterilize medical instruments. That goes for most mouthwashes as well as most of them have a lot of alchohol in them.
I suppose you could in addition use saran wrap as well if it suited you but it would reduce sensitivity by about 50%. I like the reaction from a sub or slave when I run my tongue around her starfish as she's bound helplessly legs spread wide.
I like to keep myself clean as well as most people. Shower everyday, keep the teeth brushed and flossed, deodorant and I like to wear aftershave too, "Old Spice" or more often "Drakkar".
And it is true about women and pheronomes.
I think every part of the body can and should be licked.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 11:19:03 AM

Bearlee

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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Well, I like ass play not on me but on my sub or slave.
One thing you can do beforehand is take two enemas, shower up real good then rub the area copiously with straight alchohol to sterilize it. Alchohol will kill any germs...

I think every part of the body can and should be licked.

While I obviously agree with your last statement, I'd be careful about taking two full-blown enemas. One really only needs to be concerned with the last couple of inches here...so the little ball-enema thingies are perfect. A cup or less, twice...is just fine; other wise one risks cramps…make sure just to use tepid water, too; none of those Fleets things (unless ya empty them first and use plain water).

Regarding the alcohol rub…I dunno. First of all, it does NOT kill all germs, which is why they use an autoclave on medical instruments. I’d think it could burn, too… and I know the stuff tastes like hell! Why not just take a nice bath?

bearlee

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 11:25:55 AM

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I agree.
70 percent alcohol (rubbing alcohol) doesnt kill shit.
(Get it?)
90 percent alcohol isnt going to do anything if rubbed on your bum except kill whatever's right on the surface and happens to be vulnerable and soap and water will do that (as will your saliva).
We arent talking about out-and-out scat here, so any undesirable taste on the surface will be gone after the first good licking anyway. Let's not forget, as Aileen said, this is an ass and it's going to smell and taste like an ass. If you dont want to smell or taste something that smells and tastes like an ass, well, then don't lick an ass.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 11:31:32 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bearlee
I'm one of those people who enjoy the scent of man...nuzzling his armpits, his ballsack, licking, rimming, touching, sniffing his various parts. (yeah, I'm a sick puppy LOL)

Me toooooooo! My most favorite snuggling up spot is my Daddy's underarm. :-)

Glad I made you giggle :-).

(edited cause Daddy gets a big D :-) )

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 11:33:10 AM

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Personally, I like to be clean - but only shower every other day (unless I've been doing something really hot and sweaty, like yardwork). Otherwise, my hair gets too dried out (even with conditoner).

I am also a big fan of perfume and cologne (but use it very, very lightly - I hate it when people drown themselves in it, practically). On myself, I love Obsession, and Green Tea, and Opium, and Elizabeth Taylor's White Diamonds, and also White Shoulders, and would be open to trying and using new scents also.

I have no general preferences as far as what a man uses, because it's been too long since I've been around any (intimately anyway) that used any cologne to have a distinct opinion on this. My dead husband hated using it, and my one Dominant didn't use it around me, either. I like scents in general, like when I'm cooking, too...guess I am an olfactory hedonist (which is different than being concerned with general cleanliness, I guess, so maybe I am getting off topic).

- Susan

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 11:41:45 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Persaonally, I like to be clean - but only shower every other day (unless I've been doing something really hot and sweaty, like yardwork). Otherwise, my hair gets too dried out (even with conditoner).

I have the same problem with my hair.
When you do shower, try leaving the conditioner in, even if it isnt a "leave in conditioner". And dont wash it every time you shower. Just condition it.
Or Phyto makes a great product called Defrissant. Comes in a tube and adds a lot of moisture to hair. It makes my curls go from frizz to ringlets, cant live without it.

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