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TheCabal -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 9:55:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: If you live in a house, doing housework in that house is not a 'job.' You might call it doing chores. Or you might call it domestic slavery as part of your kink, but it's not your job. Yes it a job. In a situation like the one you describe those domestic duties are what one does in order to acquire the wherewithal to survive (food, shelter, etc.). Whatever. I'm not surprised you'd say this. You think liking to get money is kinky too.

LadyPact -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 10:22:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal Thanks LadyPact. It was a wonderful 12 years, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. But in the end, it was a release for her. It's a hideous thing, TC. I really am very sorry. Back to topic. Quite often, I am prone to wish that we had certain posters back on these boards. One in particular that changed my mind about this whole thing. I'm not exactly a spring chicken, either, so I've had to <cough> adjust <cough> to certain concepts that have come around in the last decade or so. Usually dragging my feet in stubbornness. People always say, "I've never met a fin sub in real life." (More often than not, they have. They just don't know it.) When the opportunity presents itself, just listening to the person who really is getting their BDSM charge out of fin kink, it sounds like everything else. It's really the very same thing when talking to rope bunnies, spanking enthusiasts, or any other thing. That same quality, that thing that is hard to define? You can see it. Changed my whole mind about the entire subject.

OsideGirl -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 10:26:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal Thanks LadyPact. It was a wonderful 12 years, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. But in the end, it was a release for her. It's a hideous thing, TC. I really am very sorry. Back to topic. Quite often, I am prone to wish that we had certain posters back on these boards. One in particular that changed my mind about this whole thing. I'm not exactly a spring chicken, either, so I've had to <cough> adjust <cough> to certain concepts that have come around in the last decade or so. Usually dragging my feet in stubbornness. People always say, "I've never met a fin sub in real life." (More often than not, they have. They just don't know it.) When the opportunity presents itself, just listening to the person who really is getting their BDSM charge out of fin kink, it sounds like everything else. It's really the very same thing when talking to rope bunnies, spanking enthusiasts, or any other thing. That same quality, that thing that is hard to define? You can see it. Changed my whole mind about the entire subject. Roch? He certainly changed my mind about it.

Danemora -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 11:03:29 AM)
~FRing it~ The way I see it is its not up to me to decide what is a genuine part of BDSM or isnt. My say begins and ends with what I do to express my BDSM life...and thats it

LadyPact -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 11:16:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Roch? He certainly changed my mind about it. I almost wish I could say that's who it was. Unfortunately, I've never had the pleasure in person. Very good guess, though. He had such an eloquence about him. More often than not, I'd rather point folks to his threads about certain kinks because they were such good work. He really was a great poster.

TheCabal -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 12:00:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal Thanks LadyPact. It was a wonderful 12 years, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. But in the end, it was a release for her. It's a hideous thing, TC. I really am very sorry. Back to topic. Quite often, I am prone to wish that we had certain posters back on these boards. One in particular that changed my mind about this whole thing. I'm not exactly a spring chicken, either, so I've had to <cough> adjust <cough> to certain concepts that have come around in the last decade or so. Usually dragging my feet in stubbornness. People always say, "I've never met a fin sub in real life." (More often than not, they have. They just don't know it.) When the opportunity presents itself, just listening to the person who really is getting their BDSM charge out of fin kink, it sounds like everything else. It's really the very same thing when talking to rope bunnies, spanking enthusiasts, or any other thing. That same quality, that thing that is hard to define? You can see it. Changed my whole mind about the entire subject. It's interesting that you should say that... because I actually get the kink angle from the fin-sub's perspective. I'll put it this way: to me, kink is something unusual that excites a person. I don't think liking to get money and gifts is unusual. If that's kinky, then almost everyone is kinky. And if everyone is kinky, no one is. But liking to give money away... now that IS unusual. And I still really don't care what other people do to arouse themselves. At the end of the day, though, I keep coming back to my main point: as it's typically practiced, it's simply not domination. The submissive isn't really submissive; and the dominant isn't really in the dominant role. There was a very significant Dom-Daddy/little girl element to my relationship with my former slave. As part of that, I took her out shopping and out to dinner, movies... the normal date-night stuff most couples do. The deeper we went, the less she left the house. The last few years, she was to the point where she wasn't really healthy enough to go out except as absolutely necessary to see her doctors. So I did all the shopping for both of us. Looking at the two of us from the outside, it probably seemed as though I was like her errand boy. But the reality of it... and the reality for a 24/7 TPE relationship... is even though I was the one running all the errands, that also put me in control of what was purchased and what was spent. To be in the dominant role, one must have a significant level of control over the situation they're in. If I go into someone's Amazon wish list, decide how much I'm going to spend, and select an item for her... I'm buying her a gift. I'm not submitting to her. Essentially all the decisions are mine. LOL... I've actually done that for someone I know here. I went so far as to find her a pair of shoes that I thought she'd really like, told her about them, and she added them to her list. At that point even the choice of what she was going to get was mine.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 12:47:16 PM)
For what it's worth, I do know a few people who enjoy the financial domination from the aspect of "money is power and to give up that power equals submission", since those are relationships I guess the added bit of having to get permission for purchases adds some spice to their dynamic. Not my coup of tea, but I can see why it would float somebody's boat. I've only done it for guys who were head over shoulders in debt and seriously wasted their money, for them it was financial domination and they didn't mind, for me it was just stopping somebody with a massive income being in debt before the middle of the month. Once the finances were in order again, we set up a spending plan, it felt more like being the responsible adult to me, but if it was kinky for them and helped them to stick to a budget, where's the harm if they actually enjoy it?

LadyPact -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 3:40:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal It's interesting that you should say that... because I actually get the kink angle from the fin-sub's perspective. For the entirety of the topic, I think it's only fair to take household (meaning under the same roof) financial domination off of the table. The electronic thing is usually the different animal that gets these topics going. In my limited capacity at open-mindedness about the online thing, the answer is usually some. Since we know that some people in real life get the charge from power/control/kink/whatever regarding the subject of money, we have to assume that at least some people on the net get the same vibe. To be fair, I'm sure there are also some people who just think it's a way to make a quick buck. Some are taking advantage of the hideous m/f ratio on a site like this, see the market, and take advantage of it. Various other reasons that make up the whole. quote: I'll put it this way: to me, kink is something unusual that excites a person. I don't think liking to get money and gifts is unusual. If that's kinky, then almost everyone is kinky. And if everyone is kinky, no one is. Kink, I would have to say yes in most circumstances. Certain areas such as authority and/or control are situational. Really, in most cases, telling a person to do X in a non kink sense, isn't going to trip my trigger. Do the dishes is different than do <insert kinky thing here> that turns me on. quote: But liking to give money away... now that IS unusual. I kind of say the same thing about different types of service that other people LOVE but if I were to say just how great it was for somebody to allow me to do their windows? Let's just say I didn't exactly keep a straight face typing that out. [;)] quote: And I still really don't care what other people do to arouse themselves. For the most part, I don't, either. I'm always amazed that some people do. Consenting adults? Everybody's happy? Nobody is getting their limits broken or going to the ER out of idiocy? Yeah, we're probably good. quote: At the end of the day, though, I keep coming back to my main point: as it's typically practiced, it's simply not domination. The submissive isn't really submissive; and the dominant isn't really in the dominant role. People tend to say the same thing about in-person sessions that are revolving around kink. For at least some of that, it might very well be more accurate to call some people pro tops. It's a judgement call. People who would be familiar with what a pro top was would figure out how to find one. People who aren't tend to know the word dominatrix. quote: There was a very significant Dom-Daddy/little girl element to my relationship with my former slave. As part of that, I took her out shopping and out to dinner, movies... the normal date-night stuff most couples do. The deeper we went, the less she left the house. The last few years, she was to the point where she wasn't really healthy enough to go out except as absolutely necessary to see her doctors. So I did all the shopping for both of us. Looking at the two of us from the outside, it probably seemed as though I was like her errand boy. But the reality of it... and the reality for a 24/7 TPE relationship... is even though I was the one running all the errands, that also put me in control of what was purchased and what was spent. As time went on, I'm sure a part of that was due to her declining health. When all of a person's energy gets sucked into the illness, care-takers tend to gradually take over certain responsibilities. I don't look at that as a D thing or an s thing. That's one person caring about the person with the illness thing. I get you about the purchases, though. There's no dynamic in our household (we're a D/D couple) but errands are my area because I want the control. My other half, without a list, wouldn't know what to do in the grocery store anyway. quote: To be in the dominant role, one must have a significant level of control over the situation they're in. If I go into someone's Amazon wish list, decide how much I'm going to spend, and select an item for her... I'm buying her a gift. I'm not submitting to her. Essentially all the decisions are mine. LOL... I've actually done that for someone I know here. I went so far as to find her a pair of shoes that I thought she'd really like, told her about them, and she added them to her list. At that point even the choice of what she was going to get was mine. To exaggerate this a bit into a joke, I think there is myself and about half a dozen other women on the site that don't have an Amazon wishlist. (I think 'Amazon wishlist' squeaks just under the bar of the complaint'o'meter beneath terms like fin kink, fin domme, et all.) I think it's one of the reasons I'd make a really crappy fin Domme. Since it's not a kink of mine as in the electronic angle, I don't get that kink-charge out of it, so I view it differently for myself. Something like the shoes for the friend, that's you being nice. When certain instances occur where it's got that 'buy my affections' (time, attention, etc) vibe to it, there have been times I've told the person to take gift X right back to the store. I think, more often than not, the fin kink threads get a little old. There have been a couple of good ones (one was mentioned earlier) where the topic is really a topic, rather than a complaint. Is it Domination? That is something of a matter of interpretation along with definition. Another good one was is fin kink a fetish. I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple more.

TheCabal -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 4:00:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal It's interesting that you should say that... because I actually get the kink angle from the fin-sub's perspective. For the entirety of the topic, I think it's only fair to take household (meaning under the same roof) financial domination off of the table. The electronic thing is usually the different animal that gets these topics going. In my limited capacity at open-mindedness about the online thing, the answer is usually some. Since we know that some people in real life get the charge from power/control/kink/whatever regarding the subject of money, we have to assume that at least some people on the net get the same vibe. To be fair, I'm sure there are also some people who just think it's a way to make a quick buck. Some are taking advantage of the hideous m/f ratio on a site like this, see the market, and take advantage of it. Various other reasons that make up the whole. quote: I'll put it this way: to me, kink is something unusual that excites a person. I don't think liking to get money and gifts is unusual. If that's kinky, then almost everyone is kinky. And if everyone is kinky, no one is. Kink, I would have to say yes in most circumstances. Certain areas such as authority and/or control are situational. Really, in most cases, telling a person to do X in a non kink sense, isn't going to trip my trigger. Do the dishes is different than do <insert kinky thing here> that turns me on. quote: But liking to give money away... now that IS unusual. I kind of say the same thing about different types of service that other people LOVE but if I were to say just how great it was for somebody to allow me to do their windows? Let's just say I didn't exactly keep a straight face typing that out. [;)] quote: And I still really don't care what other people do to arouse themselves. For the most part, I don't, either. I'm always amazed that some people do. Consenting adults? Everybody's happy? Nobody is getting their limits broken or going to the ER out of idiocy? Yeah, we're probably good. quote: At the end of the day, though, I keep coming back to my main point: as it's typically practiced, it's simply not domination. The submissive isn't really submissive; and the dominant isn't really in the dominant role. People tend to say the same thing about in-person sessions that are revolving around kink. For at least some of that, it might very well be more accurate to call some people pro tops. It's a judgement call. People who would be familiar with what a pro top was would figure out how to find one. People who aren't tend to know the word dominatrix. quote: There was a very significant Dom-Daddy/little girl element to my relationship with my former slave. As part of that, I took her out shopping and out to dinner, movies... the normal date-night stuff most couples do. The deeper we went, the less she left the house. The last few years, she was to the point where she wasn't really healthy enough to go out except as absolutely necessary to see her doctors. So I did all the shopping for both of us. Looking at the two of us from the outside, it probably seemed as though I was like her errand boy. But the reality of it... and the reality for a 24/7 TPE relationship... is even though I was the one running all the errands, that also put me in control of what was purchased and what was spent. As time went on, I'm sure a part of that was due to her declining health. When all of a person's energy gets sucked into the illness, care-takers tend to gradually take over certain responsibilities. I don't look at that as a D thing or an s thing. That's one person caring about the person with the illness thing. I get you about the purchases, though. There's no dynamic in our household (we're a D/D couple) but errands are my area because I want the control. My other half, without a list, wouldn't know what to do in the grocery store anyway. quote: To be in the dominant role, one must have a significant level of control over the situation they're in. If I go into someone's Amazon wish list, decide how much I'm going to spend, and select an item for her... I'm buying her a gift. I'm not submitting to her. Essentially all the decisions are mine. LOL... I've actually done that for someone I know here. I went so far as to find her a pair of shoes that I thought she'd really like, told her about them, and she added them to her list. At that point even the choice of what she was going to get was mine. To exaggerate this a bit into a joke, I think there is myself and about half a dozen other women on the site that don't have an Amazon wishlist. (I think 'Amazon wishlist' squeaks just under the bar of the complaint'o'meter beneath terms like fin kink, fin domme, et all.) I think it's one of the reasons I'd make a really crappy fin Domme. Since it's not a kink of mine as in the electronic angle, I don't get that kink-charge out of it, so I view it differently for myself. Something like the shoes for the friend, that's you being nice. When certain instances occur where it's got that 'buy my affections' (time, attention, etc) vibe to it, there have been times I've told the person to take gift X right back to the store. I think, more often than not, the fin kink threads get a little old. There have been a couple of good ones (one was mentioned earlier) where the topic is really a topic, rather than a complaint. Is it Domination? That is something of a matter of interpretation along with definition. Another good one was is fin kink a fetish. I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple more. Maybe it's just me and I've gotten old. It used to be that it was expected for the man to occasionally purchase small gifts for the woman he was with. That's why I'm having trouble calling this kinky. It's not kinky to me for the same reason having missionary sex, in your own bed, with your wife, in the dark, isn't kinky - even if everyone has a fantastic orgasm. Just because something floats your boat doesn't make it kink. Fin-domme, as it's generally practiced, is really more of a sugar-baby/daddy relationship. Discussing it in those terms at least gets the dominant/submissive paradigm going in the right direction. FWIW, I don't consider that kinky either. It can get kinky if there are elements like wide age gap, and incest play. But just purchasing nice things for your partner? Nah.

TheCabal -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 4:05:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze For what it's worth, I do know a few people who enjoy the financial domination from the aspect of "money is power and to give up that power equals submission", since those are relationships I guess the added bit of having to get permission for purchases adds some spice to their dynamic. Not my coup of tea, but I can see why it would float somebody's boat. I've only done it for guys who were head over shoulders in debt and seriously wasted their money, for them it was financial domination and they didn't mind, for me it was just stopping somebody with a massive income being in debt before the middle of the month. Once the finances were in order again, we set up a spending plan, it felt more like being the responsible adult to me, but if it was kinky for them and helped them to stick to a budget, where's the harm if they actually enjoy it? As noted above, there are lots of sexual things that people enjoy that aren't really kinky. As for what you're describing here, it's sort of hard to tell whether what you're talking about can actually be called domination. I mean, there's a difference between having some level of control over something and dominating it. Maybe a sports analogy would work: if the Yankees are playing the Red Sox and are up by 2 in the 9th inning, you could say they have control of the game. If they're up by 20, then they're dominating the Red Sox.

thishereboi -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 5:16:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal Are you unable to tell the difference between a 24/7 TPE lifestyle and spending some time in the local dungeon? Yes, as a matter of fact I am. And they are both parts of the same lifestyle along with the prodommes and findommes. quote: Of course slavery is illegal. But one of those scenarios approximates it as closely as possible. The other has the dominant and submissive roles backwards. In your mind maybe, but obviously not in everyone's or there wouldn't be findommes and subs. Your kink is no more real than theirs no matter how many times you claim it is. But if it makes you feel better to think so, by all means have at it. Just don't expect everyone else to agree.

littleladybug -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 5:32:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal As noted above, there are lots of sexual things that people enjoy that aren't really kinky. As for what you're describing here, it's sort of hard to tell whether what you're talking about can actually be called domination. I mean, there's a difference between having some level of control over something and dominating it. Maybe a sports analogy would work: if the Yankees are playing the Red Sox and are up by 2 in the 9th inning, you could say they have control of the game. If they're up by 20, then they're dominating the Red Sox. So, what's the bare minimum for a relationship to be called "D/s" or "M/s"? Where is the line for control required for each of these relationships?

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 5:42:02 PM)
quote: You've been arguing with me this whole time about my belief that Fin-Dommes get Domination and Submission backwards. Yes. quote: Clearly you disagree with the way I see this. Yes. However, that doesn't mean you are doing it wrong. Your logic is flawed.

OsideGirl -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 5:48:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi Your kink is no more real than theirs no matter how many times you claim it is. Exactly.

stef -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 6:01:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi Your kink is no more real than theirs no matter how many times you claim it is. Exactly. How can you say that? His slave was a REAL slave... [image]http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-rolleyes008.gif[/image]

GoddessArtemis42 -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/5/2016 6:37:21 PM)
I am new here and admittedly did not read every post in the thread. But what I can tell you about financial dominance is that it is not about the receiving of gifts or money that is a perk of course. It is the dominance of someone who has control of every other aspect of his/her life. Same thing as having a sugar momma or a sugar daddy with no sex involved. I don't have to let a sixty year old man rub up against me for three thousand a month, if he gets off on me giving him and allowance and paying his bills and then using the rest of the money for me. Then so be it He is being dominated by someone else, there by definition he is a submissive.

GBaxter -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/6/2016 4:45:48 AM)
This was the latest response I got from the same guy : - They're not just online fin dom workshops, these are actual workshops in the US, where you can meet other people - this is a direct counter to your claim non-exist. I'm by no means stupid. I choose who I serve very well, to make sure I get out of it just as much as the partner does. In turn, they get what they want and enjoying their own fetish of it and fulfilling mine as well. So for me, when I was in half way though my 1st year, I gave into full and total bank control to my owner, locking me out. She alway left enough for me to use, as an allowance, but took whatever I didn't need. It was all upon pre-agreed terms of both parties. This is an extreme form of power-exchange and not mere role-play as it has real-world implications. This goes for any tribute made, a slave sacrificing his money, to please his owner, at his expense. With regards to : - being the 'pay pig' paying a Fin Domme for a service, where she's your employee, or contractor and the true nature of the power exchange is completely backwards, in most situations, nothing is given in return. Don't confuse paying for a Skype session, vs actual findom. That seems to be the mistake. - having when it be part of a live-in arrangement, I wasn't a live-in, (very close to it), but yes it was in-person and stayed over a few times. This can be rare - however, just as doing a cash-point meet is the same. Sacrificing to make another happy. You're at the mercy of them demanding whenever they want money/gifts. To some, this doesn't need to be in-person, it can be online only. If I keep demanding your money, and deny you spending anything else I don't see fit, I'm controlling your finances. -not endorsing that form of financial slavery outside of a truly committed relationship, but that's what it'd have to look like, or financial domination to be truly BDSM related, that's the crux of it - how YOU see it, I can say from personal experience and speak on behalf of many others in the thousands that do online-only, etc. - BDSM: Bondage/Discipline, Dominance/submission, in Discipline: Findom fits in discipline, as a financial 'tax' or punishment can incur. Dominance: Findom fits in dominance as the dominant is getting their power-exchange, pleasure, desire from it... taking control of how one spends their money. Submission: The submissive actively contributes financially to the dominants desires, which are his 'sacrifice' which has real-world impact. He gets a rush of weakness to his dominant. So, how can it all just be online fuckery, if a lot of it isn't online?! How many times do you need schooling on this topic? Admittedly, I've been doing it since I was around 16 as a submissive and I'm now 21, both in real-life/actual D/s relationship and online-only (early on). So I'm pretty well experienced.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/6/2016 9:34:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze For what it's worth, I do know a few people who enjoy the financial domination from the aspect of "money is power and to give up that power equals submission", since those are relationships I guess the added bit of having to get permission for purchases adds some spice to their dynamic. Not my coup of tea, but I can see why it would float somebody's boat. I've only done it for guys who were head over shoulders in debt and seriously wasted their money, for them it was financial domination and they didn't mind, for me it was just stopping somebody with a massive income being in debt before the middle of the month. Once the finances were in order again, we set up a spending plan, it felt more like being the responsible adult to me, but if it was kinky for them and helped them to stick to a budget, where's the harm if they actually enjoy it? As noted above, there are lots of sexual things that people enjoy that aren't really kinky. As for what you're describing here, it's sort of hard to tell whether what you're talking about can actually be called domination. I mean, there's a difference between having some level of control over something and dominating it. Maybe a sports analogy would work: if the Yankees are playing the Red Sox and are up by 2 in the 9th inning, you could say they have control of the game. If they're up by 20, then they're dominating the Red Sox. If you want to take that road, then it's pretty hard to tell what is kinky and what is not, for some people a bit of bondage might be kinky and BDSM, for most people it's pretty vanilla. The thing is, if you consider it kinky or unkinky, BDSM or not doesn't matter, you could label my relationship as weird or as boring, wouldn't matter one bit to me, because you're not involved in it. If something works for the people involved in that relationship, then that is what matters, and in all fairness, it's nobody elses business unless they decide to make it anybody elses business. For my part, I was never interested what others do in the bedroom, or if they are swinging from the chandeliers or what they call it, if it works for them, more power to them, I hope they are enjoying it.

Cinnamongirl67 -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/6/2016 8:47:16 PM)
Financial domination is not a kink. It is simply a manipulating con artist, telling a person what they want to hear to exploit money from them. They listen to their fantasies, problems, and take notes. They prey on people. They prey on their weaknesses, their loneliness, or their bank account. Their kink is called criminal. Word it or distort it anyway you want. I can make a turd sound like a banana sundae if I want but the fact is it's still a turd. Anyone that excuses that kind of behavior, as a kink, is just a criminal making an excuse, for being or defending criminal behavior. How about this? Get a respectable job and quit being a leech? Honestly, the excuses people make for taking advantage of people are laughable. Always wanting something for nothing. Blah, next Hannibal, was just a kink. Can anyone spell S-t-u-p-I-d.

UllrsIshtar -> RE: Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/6/2016 9:43:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal There are a ton of profiles that say "I'm not even going to acknowledge your presence unless you pay me." (or some variation on that theme) it's pretty clear what this is about for most "fin-dommes." Ok, assuming for a second that your argument that financial domination isn't a part of BDSM is correct (let's just assume for a second everybody...). How exactly does that make it an issue that there are financial domination profiles on this site? This isn't a BDSM site after all. Nothing in CollarSpace's Terms of Services defines this site as a BDSM specific site. NOTHING. This is an adult (sexually geared) site geared towards members who are interested in finding and contacting other members who are also interested in adult (sexually geared) exchange. Financial domination IS of an adult nature. After all, the purpose is for the 'paypig' to get his rocks off (and hopefully the Domme as well, if she's actually genuine... but even if she's not that's still not an issue, because it's still an adult-natured exchange). As such, financial domination is a legitimate part of THIS site. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you go find a 'true' BDSM site instead...

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