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One is a Wall Street stooge, the other racist and misogynist; either will get more American troops killed in the Middle East. There is no lesser of two evils here. What to do other than to withhold my vote?

First, it's not Clinton yet.

Second -- Jill Stein, Green Party candidate. Help build them up for the future (secure place on ballot, etc.)

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it is astonishing to see wage workers blindly choosing sides between the wealthy who seek profit and the protection of property against the rabble.

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it is astonishing to see wage workers blindly choosing sides between the wealthy who seek profit and the protection of property against the rabble.

If they're stupid enough to think that Trump is on their side, then they probably deserve a lot worse, to be honest.

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for you, others not so much

You were the one who said he could hire the best people
I never made any claim about obama.
do you see the difference or the strawman?

I'm using an example of the current President how having no experience doesn't matter. The country is still standing. But I believe Trump is more experience in managing expertisee of others than Obama, who I think didn't do proper groundwork of his Obamacare plan.
And Trump like Obama is allowed to make a few errors as no human is perfect. As long as the errors don't exceed the successes.

I an going to remind u that the "groundwork" of Obamacare came from the GOP. that's why Obama thought that the GOP might go with the plan instead of stonewalling it because they didn't get to be the ones to implement it.

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None of them are on my side, sunshine.
And no, I don't particularly want to see anybody killed for voting for Trump. They've already fucked themselves over, so why bother?

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Crowing now; eating crow in november.

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Forget whats good for the country.

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You criticized trump voters for voting against their self-interest; you admit Hillary isn't in your interest.

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it is astonishing to see wage workers blindly choosing sides between the wealthy who seek profit and the protection of property against the rabble.

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it is astonishing to see wage workers blindly choosing sides between the wealthy who seek profit and the protection of property against the rabble.

If they're stupid enough to think that Trump is on their side, then they probably deserve a lot worse, to be honest.

No doubt you think they need to be killed and someone take their stuff - like another liberal on here pointed out.

If you're stupid enough to think Hillary is on your side....

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to the main topic:

early on I belonged to the anyone but Hillary camp, now im not so sure who would be worse for the country, her, or trump, so im not sure in what light to take the following news:

"Ripple Effect: Trump Pushes 11 States Toward The Democrats"

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Donald Trump will start his 2016 battle against Hillary Clinton by trailing her by double-digits in the polls and a projected Electoral College wipeout thus far. Now that he’s the presumptive nominee, the Cook Political Report had moved 11 states towards the Democrats (the Hill):

“This has been an exceedingly unpredictable year,” the analyst said. “Although we remain convinced that Hillary Clinton is very vulnerable and would probably lose to most other Republicans, Donald Trump's historic unpopularity with wide swaths of the electorate — women, millennials, independents and Latinos — make him the initial November underdog.”
Colorado, Florida, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin were all shifted from toss-up states to leaning Democratic. The “solid Republican” states Missouri and Indiana were downgraded to “likely Republican.” New Mexico is now solidly Democratic, and North Carolina is a toss-up after leaning Republican.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/05/07/ripple-effect-trumps-pushes-11-states-to-the-democrats-n2159255

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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/05/07/ripple-effect-trumps-pushes-11-states-to-the-democrats-n2159255

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He can make impossible things happen.

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He will unite the congress and senate as promised.

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He can make impossible things happen.

If he makes them happen, then they were not impossible. :)

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He will unite the congress and senate as promised.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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He can make impossible things happen.

If he makes them happen, then they were not impossible. :)

Only because he of good words, the best words, hadn't tried to do them yet.

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He will unite the congress and senate as promised.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

It's true. They will all hate him.

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to the main topic:

early on I belonged to the anyone but Hillary camp, now im not so sure who would be worse for the country, her, or trump, so im not sure in what light to take the following news:

"Ripple Effect: Trump Pushes 11 States Toward The Democrats"

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Donald Trump will start his 2016 battle against Hillary Clinton by trailing her by double-digits in the polls and a projected Electoral College wipeout thus far. Now that he’s the presumptive nominee, the Cook Political Report had moved 11 states towards the Democrats (the Hill):

“This has been an exceedingly unpredictable year,” the analyst said. “Although we remain convinced that Hillary Clinton is very vulnerable and would probably lose to most other Republicans, Donald Trump's historic unpopularity with wide swaths of the electorate — women, millennials, independents and Latinos — make him the initial November underdog.”
Colorado, Florida, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin were all shifted from toss-up states to leaning Democratic. The “solid Republican” states Missouri and Indiana were downgraded to “likely Republican.” New Mexico is now solidly Democratic, and North Carolina is a toss-up after leaning Republican.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/05/07/ripple-effect-trumps-pushes-11-states-to-the-democrats-n2159255

I wanted Cruz but I look at it this way. Obama is a liberal on steroids. Hillary is Obama all over again. Trump is a wild card and at this point is all we have. If he stays true to his word, as a conservative I don't see too much of a problem with him. I think he's having a wet dream if he thinks he can bring jobs back from around the world by tacking on tariffs to imports. He might be a bit moire hawkish than what I'm comfortable with. I'm not sure exactly what he has in mind to deal with the Obama care fiasco. But he couldn't possibly be any worse than Obama or Hillary. It's also too bad Gary Johnson didn't run in the Republican primary. There are better choices than Trump but after the gang of 8 thing, I would prefer Trump over Rubio. I like Trump a whole lot more than Kasich. Kasich, after promising not to vote in favor of any new federal gun control, voted for Clinton's stupid assault weapon bill. That was a promise well within his control that he could have kept. I would prefer Trump over McCain or Romney. We could do a whole lot worse........unless of course he loses.