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Greta75 -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/16/2016 9:35:51 PM)
I can't wait for medical advances to make a way for men to get pregnant! The closest to it, was a transgender male getting pregnant. But she is female in her reproductive organs, so....., this is exactly the whole transgender thing is so confusing and ridiculous. Female who transits to male, and still can get pregnant. So we get male transgender pregnancy, or male pregnancy! And then the kid would be the only kid in the world, where daddy has given birth to him. My ultimate goal for everything is everything should really be geared towards creating the best environment for a child. I know, parents who don't want children, and any child being born, knowing they were abandoned by their real parents and adopted, all that is not an ideal situation for the child. It's a second best situation. And child being raised by same genders, I am not convince it's in the child's best possible interest. I think it's like second best interest. And child having a transgendered male father who gave birth to him, man, that's even more fucked up for the child! But once men can get pregnant as well, it will change alot of things.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/16/2016 10:21:43 PM)
quote: And when a lefty says that religions are trying to block "access to birth control" it always means abortion so I responded to that. Sorry, but again, fuck you. You are wrong.

Lucylastic -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 12:38:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 quote: so you want to force them into 18 plus years of parenthood, and poverty? Other then in the case of rape getting is pregnant is preventable plus you're ignoring adoption. quote: Your bullshit comment about birth control being "abortion"...Yes you did say it, You jumped straight into abortion when it was "access to birth control" that was being discussed. If you or anybody wanted to include you should have brought it up sooner and not after several comments relating to abortion. quote: No...you dont get to decide for anyone elses life or body. You especially dont get to turn women into" slaves to their organs.". Typical comment from someone who can't logically defend the abortion (murder) of innocent babies. How many children have you adopted? Why are there so many children in orphanages or homes waiting to be adopted? Your ignorance about birthcontrol is based on, what 70s information?? I had you on hide for showing gross ignorance, I didnt see the comment until just now when I read Tweaks post. SO I might now have to go back over your posts in this thread with you unhid so I can respond to what other bullshit you have parrotted. YOu dont get to decide when your posts become a non issue. Maybe WHen you can logically understand that 98%of abortions are are done before the 12th week when they are four inches long let alone "babies, Or cognizant, that its YOUR view that its a baby. Yours is a Typical comment from someone who cant logically see that a woman is more than an incubator. "Innocent babies" is your emotional outburst to cover for your need to be controlling those bad bad women. I hope you wear and have always worn a condom. EVERY time you have sex OR get the snip, at least you wouldnt come across as completely uninformed. Apparently enlightenment to you means you have to be OK with taking the lives of innocent unborn babies . I call it being an evil ignoramus. Enlightenment , what does that have to do with being a mother? You have nothing but your arrogant spew, and ignorant. You couldnt answer a single question. Useless .

Lucylastic -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 1:01:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 Changes nothing. What do you have against someone else's child taking the express route to heaven? The evangelists over here, their job is to save as many people as possible, to make sure they spread God's word and help as many people as possible get to heaven. So there is really no religious conflict at all. Aborted babies go straight to heaven. Evil moms who aborted their babies, will go to hell. There will be consequences in after life. And we can't go killing people that has left the womb and gone into living in this world, because they need to be saved first. Killing them does not help them reach heaven. So we need to prevent people from killing them. I mean from a religious point of view. That should kinda be the logical sequence. From a non-religious point of view. A Fetus is not yet a human. It's a foreign object in a woman's womb. Thus not murder. It's akin to tumour. If it grows in your body, you have the right to remove it. What do you have against giving every child who is conceived a chance to live? Do you know the stats on pregnancies and misscarriage? Or how many pregnanies are unplanned, That right wing women also have abortions also lots of religious women too? Do you have any medical knowledge about pregnancy? Do you have a clue about the realities of birthing every pregnancy and what can go wrong ?..

Lucylastic -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 1:31:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 looks like a human to me: [image]http://assets.babycenter.com/ims/2008/08aug/baby_third_trimester_1.jpg[/image] See that big purple thing..... its what is keeping that third trimester fetus alive, it attaches from the belly, to the placenta, which is supplied directly from the mothers blood supply. If that tiny cord dies....do you know what happens to that fetus? It dies in utero. It starves....it dies inside you, and by the time you realise something is wrong, its too late. You have to birth it, labour, drugs, pain, for a dead child. Its human, its dead. It isnt alive, it was wanted.... Oh it must have been for the best, you can always have another....... You think you are smart for showing a pic of a full tem fetus and use it to revile any woman who doesnt want another child. You have called me and others baby killers in the past....tarred every woman with the same brush. Without knowing reality [sm=sodoff.gif] [sm=sodoff.gif]

tweakabelle -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 2:32:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: If you or anybody wanted to include you should have brought it up sooner and not after several comments relating to abortion. Actually I did, and you brought up abotion in response to my comment. In Post 225 I said the following... quote: Christianity: Trying to get creationism taught in schools, trying to limit access to birth control. To which you replied in post 231 quote: How does trying to stop women from murdering babies become only religious thing? So sorry but fuck you, we did bring up "access to birth control" first, and you did indeed just leap immediately to "murdering babies". I have already pointed this out to bigjb several times but he is either unable or unwilling to distinguish between birth control and abortion. So he is either terminally dumb or so blinded by his misogynistic ideology that he cannot see the difference. It's interesting to note the genders of posters on both sides of this discussion. Unsurprisingly, those who are anti-choice are all male - people who will never have to live out a pregnancy - while all those who are pro-choice are female, including at least one mother. Those who cannot walk the walk are insisting on imposing the talk on those who can. I can't help but wonder if any of our anti-choice misogynists would change their tune if their body was on the line, if they had to gestate, carry and give birth. I have no doubt whatsoever that they would change their tune faster than you can say 'misogynist'. At when it came to delivery time, they would be screaming for an epidural at the first pang of labour pain Again, and even more unsurprisingly, some of those opposing a woman's right to choose are also vitriolic in their denunciations of feminism.* The existence of such arrogance, and their enthusiasm in depriving women of their right to choose are compelling evidence of the need for a strong womens' movement to defend womens rights, especially the right to choose. * I am expecting one of dumb misogynists to post that unwanted pregnancies are examples of womens' 'privilege' any day now.

Greta75 -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 4:58:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 What do you have against giving every child who is conceived a chance to live? Are you serious? Can we compare this properly? Religious version okay? You're a Christian, you believe in Heaven right? 1) The mother doesn't want this child, we allow this child to live, child comes out. Goes through emotional trauma of being adopted, unwanted, or whatever. No guarantees this child will even get adopted. Might end up in an orphanage forever. 50-50 chance the child will be okay, even then, it may not find Christ, be disillusioned by religion, might end up in hell, basically, suffer. OR 2) Mother doesn't want this child. Aborts the child. Child 100% guaranteed goes straight to heaven WITHOUT having to go through life and all the trials and tribulations and all the crazy test that God gives you to test your faith for him! Hmm......., does that answer your question? I seriously cannot possibly see life being the better gift here. Unless you think Heaven is a worst off place to be in than earth. To me, life is only the better gift if that mother is gonna care and love for her child. Which in abortion cases, that most of the time isn't the case.

blnymph -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 7:05:01 AM)
morons aside ... oh well not quite: did anybody listen to Boris Johnson lately?? (not that it's worth any time ...) - see sunny taleygruff for instance I think the Londoners did vote wisely

Lucylastic -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 7:10:41 AM)
I cant handle watching him, he has one of those irritating faces, like a bulldog licking lemons, I dont have any time for him, but....im gonna go look:) Putting on my hazmat suit.

WhoreMods -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 7:41:24 AM)
The English Mop is obviously using the referendum debate as an arena to set up his challenge to Cameltoe at the moment. Lots of footage on the telly of the tosser tooling around on his bicycle and collecting support from twats like Farage. Worryingly, Theresa May seems to be throwing her hat in the ring for that one at the moment, as well, but at least the current NHS clusterfuck has barred Jeremy Rhyming-Slang from seeking the highest office for a bit.

bigjb62 -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 7:54:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: If you or anybody wanted to include you should have brought it up sooner and not after several comments relating to abortion. Actually I did, and you brought up abotion in response to my comment. In Post 225 I said the following... quote: Christianity: Trying to get creationism taught in schools, trying to limit access to birth control. To which you replied in post 231 quote: How does trying to stop women from murdering babies become only religious thing? So sorry but fuck you, we did bring up "access to birth control" first, and you did indeed just leap immediately to "murdering babies". I have already pointed this out to bigjb several times but he is either unable or unwilling to distinguish between birth control and abortion. So he is either terminally dumb or so blinded by his misogynistic ideology that he cannot see the difference. It's interesting to note the genders of posters on both sides of this discussion. Unsurprisingly, those who are anti-choice are all male - people who will never have to live out a pregnancy - while all those who are pro-choice are female, including at least one mother. Those who cannot walk the walk are insisting on imposing the talk on those who can. I can't help but wonder if any of our anti-choice misogynists would change their tune if their body was on the line, if they had to gestate, carry and give birth. I have no doubt whatsoever that they would change their tune faster than you can say 'misogynist'. At when it came to delivery time, they would be screaming for an epidural at the first pang of labour pain Again, and even more unsurprisingly, some of those opposing a woman's right to choose are also vitriolic in their denunciations of feminism.* The existence of such arrogance, and their enthusiasm in depriving women of their right to choose are compelling evidence of the need for a strong womens' movement to defend womens rights, especially the right to choose. * I am expecting one of dumb misogynists to post that unwanted pregnancies are examples of womens' 'privilege' any day now. It's funny how leftist think saying things like it's a woman's right to choose somehow equates to something innocuous like choosing what color to die their hair or what type of nail polish instead of taking a human life. Nothing you say or how you say it changes what abortion really is! Murder plain and simple and every time you try to say it's not I will remind you of the truth.

mnottertail -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 7:59:50 AM)
Even your god don't see it like that, epic failure.

bigjb62 -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 8:20:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 What do you have against giving every child who is conceived a chance to live? Are you serious? Can we compare this properly? Religious version okay? You're a Christian, you believe in Heaven right? 1) The mother doesn't want this child, we allow this child to live, child comes out. Goes through emotional trauma of being adopted, unwanted, or whatever. No guarantees this child will even get adopted. Might end up in an orphanage forever. 50-50 chance the child will be okay, even then, it may not find Christ, be disillusioned by religion, might end up in hell, basically, suffer. OR 2) Mother doesn't want this child. Aborts the child. Child 100% guaranteed goes straight to heaven WITHOUT having to go through life and all the trials and tribulations and all the crazy test that God gives you to test your faith for him! Hmm......., does that answer your question? I seriously cannot possibly see life being the better gift here. Unless you think Heaven is a worst off place to be in than earth. To me, life is only the better gift if that mother is gonna care and love for her child. Which in abortion cases, that most of the time isn't the case. How can you think that murdering a baby is a gift. How do you know the child wouldn't grow up and radically change the world for the better! Or do some other great thing like save a bunch of people from certain death. It's not yours the government's or even the mother's right to take an unborn child's life. Plus you're trying to argue about God and the baby going heaven which is something you don't even believe yourself which invalidates everything you say on the matter.

blnymph -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 8:28:49 AM)
btw: London is in the UK just in case someone did not notice the title of this thread

QuestionGuys -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 8:35:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 What do you have against giving every child who is conceived a chance to live? Are you serious? Can we compare this properly? Religious version okay? You're a Christian, you believe in Heaven right? 1) The mother doesn't want this child, we allow this child to live, child comes out. Goes through emotional trauma of being adopted, unwanted, or whatever. No guarantees this child will even get adopted. Might end up in an orphanage forever. 50-50 chance the child will be okay, even then, it may not find Christ, be disillusioned by religion, might end up in hell, basically, suffer. OR 2) Mother doesn't want this child. Aborts the child. Child 100% guaranteed goes straight to heaven WITHOUT having to go through life and all the trials and tribulations and all the crazy test that God gives you to test your faith for him! Hmm......., does that answer your question? I seriously cannot possibly see life being the better gift here. Unless you think Heaven is a worst off place to be in than earth. To me, life is only the better gift if that mother is gonna care and love for her child. Which in abortion cases, that most of the time isn't the case. How can you think that murdering a baby is a gift. How do you know the child wouldn't grow up and radically change the world for the better! Or do some other great thing like save a bunch of people from certain death. It's not yours the government's or even the mother's right to take an unborn child's life. Plus you're trying to argue about God and the baby going heaven which is something you don't even believe yourself which invalidates everything you say on the matter. Are you saying that god doesn't realize the fetus is going to be aborted, so he puts all the hopes and dreams of humanity into it? That sure makes wonderful sense, and shows his true intelligence.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 8:49:27 AM)
Greta made some good points. quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 How can you think that murdering a baby is a gift. That's YOUR interpretation on her words. As she has said previously, until it's actually born, it is wholly dependant upon the mother for its existance. quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 How do you know the child wouldn't grow up and radically change the world for the better! Or do some other great thing like save a bunch of people from certain death. You don't. It's as simple as that. Nobody knows. However, given the law of averages, said person isn't likely to rise to such dizzy heights. quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 It's not yours the government's or even the mother's right to take an unborn child's life. Actually, until it's born the mother has EVERY right to control what goes on with her body. quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 Plus you're trying to argue about God and the baby going heaven which is something you don't even believe yourself which invalidates everything you say on the matter. Just because YOUR belief system is different doesn't mean hers is invalid or even diminished. Your posts just show how blinkered and myopic your PoV is. I won't belittle it because it's your belief. But.... trashing and belittling others that don't hold to your own beliefs is puerile and obtuse.

tweakabelle -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 8:52:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph btw: London is in the UK just in case someone did not notice the title of this thread Nice try. Sadly I expect that, now that he is on his high horse and single handedly saving the unborn millions, he is not going to allow anything to stand in his way ...... Bye bye thread, it had some interesting bits while it lasted ......

WhoreMods -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 9:01:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 How can you think that murdering a baby is a gift. How do you know the child wouldn't grow up and radically change the world for the better! Or do some other great thing like save a bunch of people from certain death. It's not yours the government's or even the mother's right to take an unborn child's life. Who's going to be paying to feed said unwanted child? I'd have a lot more sympathy for people like you arguing that abortion is unacceptable under any circumstances if you weren't also opposed to welfare funding for the brats in question.

bigjb62 -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 9:03:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: QuestionGuys quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: bigjb62 What do you have against giving every child who is conceived a chance to live? Are you serious? Can we compare this properly? Religious version okay? You're a Christian, you believe in Heaven right? 1) The mother doesn't want this child, we allow this child to live, child comes out. Goes through emotional trauma of being adopted, unwanted, or whatever. No guarantees this child will even get adopted. Might end up in an orphanage forever. 50-50 chance the child will be okay, even then, it may not find Christ, be disillusioned by religion, might end up in hell, basically, suffer. OR 2) Mother doesn't want this child. Aborts the child. Child 100% guaranteed goes straight to heaven WITHOUT having to go through life and all the trials and tribulations and all the crazy test that God gives you to test your faith for him! Hmm......., does that answer your question? I seriously cannot possibly see life being the better gift here. Unless you think Heaven is a worst off place to be in than earth. To me, life is only the better gift if that mother is gonna care and love for her child. Which in abortion cases, that most of the time isn't the case. How can you think that murdering a baby is a gift. How do you know the child wouldn't grow up and radically change the world for the better! Or do some other great thing like save a bunch of people from certain death. It's not yours the government's or even the mother's right to take an unborn child's life. Plus you're trying to argue about God and the baby going heaven which is something you don't even believe yourself which invalidates everything you say on the matter. Are you saying that god doesn't realize the fetus is going to be aborted, so he puts all the hopes and dreams of humanity into it? That sure makes wonderful sense, and shows his true intelligence. God know all but doesn't always intervene. Here's the rub, he gave us free will so in most cases if not all cases free will takes precedence.

mnottertail -> RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor (5/17/2016 9:05:35 AM)
So, see here, is London under Sharia Law now? I haven't checked the DailyMail today or any of our American nutsucker slobber blogs..........so............wot? Are you who I think you are, old cheese?

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