quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

How can you compare this to Trump?

Hello????

America elected a Muslim President in Obama!!! They voted for him two times in a row!!!! Over white christian men!

And yes I know Obama denies his Muslim heritage.

But any Muslim in the world knows his Muslim because his born to a Muslim and his mom was married to a Muslim, so he had a stepdad and real father that were Muslims.

America voted for a President with a Muslim name too.

It's the silly left who keeps spinning lies that Trump is racist, and America is racist because they voted for Trump.

Obama could not have won without right leaning votes.

In my country, we have Muslim MPs by affirmative action. So Muslim MP is normal. My district MP is a Muslim too.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

your ignorance is only surpassed by your arrogance.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Oh dear jeesus
no
I dont care what religion someone is, I care what laws they pass restricting other peoples rights using their "belief" system as a reason to discriminate against them.

Libs love to generalize all cons as racist, misogynistic, well the usual spew, and blame it on their fundamental christian beliefs.

I never understand why the same ones who could spew so much hate towards Christianity, just doesn't bare the same attitude towards Islam. When Islam actually got worst things in their religion.

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Oh dear jeesus
no
I dont care what religion someone is, I care what laws they pass restricting other peoples rights using their "belief" system as a reason to discriminate against them.

Libs love to generalize all cons as racist, misogynistic, well the usual spew, and blame it on their fundamental christian beliefs.

I never understand why the same ones who could spew so much hate towards Christianity, just doesn't bare the same attitude towards Islam. When Islam actually got worst things in their religion.

ive mentioned this a handful of times in the forums greta---its because islam is the enemy of Christianity and western civilization, and so are the lefties. so its a case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. and given what islam believes and what they practice, yes, its absolutely mind bogglingly ironic...

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

your ignorance is only surpassed by your arrogance.

Ahem, you left out her racism and bigotry, her stupidity and her lies.

My post doesnt rhyme as well as yours but it is more accurate....

Kissy kissy xx

quote:

Wherever there is conflict between the West -- identified as white, capitalist or of European roots -- and the non-West, the left portrays the West as the villain...

The left similarly describes any suggestion that anything Western is superior to anything non-Western. Likewise, it dismisses virtually all Western achievements, but regards criticism of anything non-Western as racist, chauvinistic, imperialist, colonialist, xenophobic, etc...

That is why the left is so protective of Islam...It is not that the left is sympathetic to Islam, for it has contempt for all religions. It is that many Muslims loathe the West, and the enemies of my enemy (the West) must be protected...

That is why the left loathes Israel. If the left actually cared about human rights, women's rights, gay rights, or freedom of speech, religion and press, it would be wildly pro-Israel. But Israel, in the left's view, is white, European and colonialist, or in other words, Western. And the Palestinians are non-Western.

So, the Big Question is, why? Why is the left hostile toward Western civilization?

After decades of considering this question, I have concluded the answer is this: standards.

The left hates standards -- moral standards, artistic standards, cultural standards. The West is built on all three, and it has excelled in all three.

Why does the left hate standards? It hates standards because when there are standards, there is judgment. And leftists don't want to be judged.

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

despite clearly misnamed in uk's infantile objections:

Why the left loves Islam - RenewAmerica

The Left’s love affair with Islam

The reason that liberals hate Christianity, but ignore Islam

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

One point he raised is he sees himself as British, a Londoner and a Muslim. Today he attended a Jewish Memorial event in London.

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Oh dear jeesus
no
I dont care what religion someone is, I care what laws they pass restricting other peoples rights using their "belief" system as a reason to discriminate against them.

Libs love to generalize all cons as racist, misogynistic, well the usual spew, and blame it on their fundamental christian beliefs.

I never understand why the same ones who could spew so much hate towards Christianity, just doesn't bare the same attitude towards Islam. When Islam actually got worst things in their religion.

ive mentioned this a handful of times in the forums greta---its because islam is the enemy of Christianity and western civilization, and so are the lefties. so its a case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. and given what islam believes and what they practice, yes, its absolutely mind bogglingly ironic...

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

despite clearly misnamed in uk's infantile objections:

(yet wonderfully on point to my post above!)

Why the left loves Islam - RenewAmerica

The Left’s love affair with Islam

The reason that liberals hate Christianity, but ignore Islam

(those are just a few, theres a large variety of takes on the topic)

heres one from a post I made just a few days ago:

"Why the Left Loathes Western Civilization"

quote:

Wherever there is conflict between the West -- identified as white, capitalist or of European roots -- and the non-West, the left portrays the West as the villain...

The left similarly describes any suggestion that anything Western is superior to anything non-Western. Likewise, it dismisses virtually all Western achievements, but regards criticism of anything non-Western as racist, chauvinistic, imperialist, colonialist, xenophobic, etc...

That is why the left is so protective of Islam...It is not that the left is sympathetic to Islam, for it has contempt for all religions. It is that many Muslims loathe the West, and the enemies of my enemy (the West) must be protected...

That is why the left loathes Israel. If the left actually cared about human rights, women's rights, gay rights, or freedom of speech, religion and press, it would be wildly pro-Israel. But Israel, in the left's view, is white, European and colonialist, or in other words, Western. And the Palestinians are non-Western.

So, the Big Question is, why? Why is the left hostile toward Western civilization?

After decades of considering this question, I have concluded the answer is this: standards.

The left hates standards -- moral standards, artistic standards, cultural standards. The West is built on all three, and it has excelled in all three.

Why does the left hate standards? It hates standards because when there are standards, there is judgment. And leftists don't want to be judged.

http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2016/04/26/why-the-left-loathes-western-civilization-n2153625

posted this a couple of Februarys ago greta, its helps to highlight the leftie/islam (seeming) paradox.

[image]http://www.collarchat.com/upfiles/1936645/0CD554A24FCF48E8B71D39E1223B90B7.jpg[/image]

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Oh dear jeesus
no
I dont care what religion someone is, I care what laws they pass restricting other peoples rights using their "belief" system as a reason to discriminate against them.

Libs love to generalize all cons as racist, misogynistic, well the usual spew, and blame it on their fundamental christian beliefs.

I never understand why the same ones who could spew so much hate towards Christianity, just doesn't bare the same attitude towards Islam. When Islam actually got worst things in their religion.

ive mentioned this a handful of times in the forums greta---its because islam is the enemy of Christianity and western civilization, and so are the lefties. so its a case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. and given what islam believes and what they practice, yes, its absolutely mind bogglingly ironic...

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
And yet that is in fact not how it works. Otherwise I would be Jewish, which I am not.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
And yet that is in fact not how it works. Otherwise I would be Jewish, which I am not.

If your mom is Jewish, I would see you as a jewish.

quote:

Either way, my point is, America has elected a Muslim President, despite him being Muslim.

quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice
Okay, I'll bite.

If the President doesn't identify himself as Muslim, hold Muslim beliefs, attend Muslim worship, follow Muslim traditions, cite Muslim doctrine, eat the Muslim diet, live by Muslim law, then in what possible, meaningful sense is he a "Muslim"?

quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice
Isn't the key thing whether TDC sees herself as Jewish?

quote:

If your mom is Jewish, I would see you as a jewish.