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I do not even know what it is to believe "in" something. When put that way it sounds like faith in some guy in the sky who can read your mind and send you to hell. Do I believe the AGW exists ? Yes. People who completely deny mankind caused warming of the planet simply do not have a grasp on reality. We burn everything. That makes heat.
So now they claim that the CO2 is making it worse, like Venus. The super hot climate of Venus cannot be solely explained by its closer proximity to the sun, part of it is the CO2 and other greenhouse gasses. They say we are making it that way here. The CO2 makes it worse, and will continue to make it worse.
Well they were all gloom and doom about the ozone at one time. They said that once those certain types of flourocarbons gets up there they are a catalyst, which means the emerge from the chemical reaction unscathed and will do it again. What happened to that ? What's more, there neer was an ozone layer. It is heavier so it always concentrated over the equator, and it is likely there was never any over the poles. But see the angle of incidence of the sunlight is so oblique up and down there they don't need ozone to protect them. Near the equator, you real DO need ozone up there. They also failed to mention that every time a rocket gets launched it is like releasing about a million pounds of Freon 12.
Anyway, down to it, I am sure AGW is happening but I have my doubts about their figures. They ruin models on a computer n shit, there is no way to know if they are applying the correct weighting to each of the variables in the equation used to direct these simulations. I am sure they are not totally wrong, but I am also sure they are not totally right. Similar techniques are used to predict the local weather and you know how wrong that can be.
Just how bad is it ? Are we talking about Florida being gone in ten years ? Because some off these useful idiots make it sound that way. What do they want us to do, scrap all the cars and buy electric cars and then switch completely to nuclear power to charge them ? We are talking about a country that has to borrow money to pay the electric bill at the pentagon. WE are talking about a country where less than a third of the people even file taxes, let alone pay any significant amount. We are talking about a country where in the past, people paid cash for new cars, even houses, but now have to put the gas for their car on a credit card, and personal debt is even higher than government debt.
We got people quitting their jobs to get medicaid, who the hell is going to buy a $100,000 electric car ?
They just want to tax it. Hear of carbon credits ? Think carbon credits lower the CO2 ? Hell no, whatever industry is left still emits the same amount no matter what. you burn something CO2 comes out, fact of life. In the meantime China doesn't have that problem so the manufacturing is done there. But they are only on the other side of this fishbowl, the CO2 is still being emitted, maybe even more.
But instead of giving it time, and figuring out a real solution, what they'll do is to cripple the economy even more, and more business will move out. The import drywall from China. Now I can understand smartphones, you can get a gillion dollars worth of them on one boat, but drywall ? Gotta be kidding me, it is heavy and not worth all that much. And other things, the boat that takes the raw materials to foreign countries and bring back finished products are guess what - emitting carbon dioxide !
One of the best solutions, which is not the save all of it all but a step in the right direction would be to reduce all this transportation. And people too. Some drive a big pickup truck 40 miles each way to work. Roofers from the far east side get a job on the far west side and others from the far west side get a job on the far east side. You would think they could trade those jobs and save a little gas, and CO2 ?
Nobody seems to think of viable solutions. All the government knows how to do is make a new tax, in other words they are useless. Less than useless, in fact detrimental. In fact the support big oil and do it because of bribes, called lobby money. Is that shit even legal in the good countries ? The head of the Chinese equivalent os the FDA took a bribe to approve a drug and seven people dies, they executed him. Prescription drugs in the US kill more people than all illegal drugs combined, and they get bonuses.
But I digress, suffice it to say that the government is of no help.
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