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OsideGirl -> RE: Deleted unread (5/10/2016 6:22:52 PM)

Ron, you're awesome.



WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Deleted unread (5/10/2016 6:58:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: QualityFirst

Why do you call me "dear" although you made it clear to me that you consider me to be a poor guy or even worse?



It's called sarcasm.....



It is a colloquialism with a bit of light-hearted sarcasm.

I'm uncertain where or how I've made any insinuations of you being a poor man or worse. As I came into the conversation toward the end of the thread, without having read any of it, I consider the misunderstanding my error. You can't have known that I'd simply been intrigued because of an article I had just read regarding AI and that I wasn't attacking you. I should have taken into account how these threads go and that you were probably already on the defensive.

Ron put it best, "Don't fuckin say feminine logic. Just.Fuckin.Don't. You are gonna fuck this up and get us all caught. "

That about sums it up.



angelikaJ -> RE: Deleted unread (5/10/2016 7:04:27 PM)

Since Ron brought it up:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3057095/tm.htm
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3057123/tm.htm

From http://www.collarchat.com/m_3057130/tm.htm



Inghammar -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 3:41:42 AM)

At 63 years of age you should have the emotional tools to be able to deal with having your messages deleted unread. Because of the nature of this and other dating site , women will get much more mail volume from men than men will from women. A lot of it is people firing spaghetti at various walls to see what sticks without any serious reflection on the user's profile and their match suitability.

I've had my messages deleted unread too. Perhaps they wanted someone with a different build? Maybe one of my areas of interest put them off? Perhaps I lived a bit too far away? Who knows. Sometimes when I was sure this person would be a good match I would message again a couple weeks later and we'd begin conversing. They would cite that the sheer volume of mail caused them to delete everything in the inbox and try to start again.

Aside from the amount of time it would take to reply to everyone - the reason you don't often see a 'no thank you' reply is that it's not uncommon for adults to lack the capability to handle rejection and respond with pointlessly vitriolic comments.



QualityFirst -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 6:22:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail



Heres the thing though....if you want to engage in witty repartee and call attention to yourself and you are my age so I have a fair notion of your chauvinism, it must 'institutionally' be same as mine.

First, you don't know my nationality, you just know that I live in Germany.

Second, it used to be different, but nowadays, Germans with chauvinism are really a very small minority.

So you have no notion at all of my chauvinism (which I don't have at all).

It has always amazed me how guys who tell nonsense manage to get appreciated by women.

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Do you know what dizz's interests are? Aakasha's? LP's? and so on?

No, I don't, and I don't have to know, as such upperclasse dommes evidently will never have whatever interest in me.

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Bet I can find out in public before you do, politely and naturally, cuz you see......I like women.

I know they are some different bastards, but goddammit, I like them.

So you consider those ladies to be bastards. OK.

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Don't fuckin say feminine logic. Just.Fuckin.Don't. You are gonna fuck this up and get us all caught.

OK. This is a clear statement. Thank you for it. I will observe it.



QualityFirst -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 6:29:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

I'm uncertain where or how I've made any insinuations of you being a poor man or worse.

I realize that you would at least have had good reasons to do so.

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As I came into the conversation toward the end of the thread, without having read any of it, I consider the misunderstanding my error. You can't have known that I'd simply been intrigued because of an article I had just read regarding AI and that I wasn't attacking you. I should have taken into account how these threads go and that you were probably already on the defensive.

No, please, don't consider the misunderstanding to be your error. I should have put some more effort in trying to correctly understand you.

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"Don't fuckin say feminine logic. Just.Fuckin.Don't. You are gonna fuck this up and get us all caught. "

Thank you very much for this advice. I have come to truly appreciate you.



QualityFirst -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 6:51:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Inghammar

At 63 years of age you should have the emotional tools to be able to deal with having your messages deleted unread.

Do you think emotional sensitivity becomes less with increasing age?

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Aside from the amount of time it would take to reply to everyone

First: if I spend at least 15 minutes to write a well thought message, I am not worth 5 seconds for a "No thanks"?

Second: if a lady get 100 messages wich don't interest her, it takes her at most 5 seconds x 100 = about 8 minutes to answer them all with "No thanks". Are all the dommes here such very important persons that 8 minutes would have dramatic consequences on their lifes, while already this thread shows that some of them spend much more time only to spew out bullshit on the forums?

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The reason you don't often see a 'no thank you' reply is that it's not uncommon for adults to lack the capability to handle rejection and respond with pointlessly vitriolic comments.

I suppose they don't loose time reading such comments, but rather just blocks these guys (although it is very easy to circumvent being blocked).

Is it because a number of men are assholes, that women should treat all men to be the same?



PonyGroom -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 7:01:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: QualityFirst


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ORIGINAL: PonyGroom

You have made a logical error: you think the only men here are part of "the BDSM lifestyle" and as such have taken a code of ethics. As far as I have been able to determine, only a small percentage of the men here are actually part of "the BDSM lifestyle" to the extent that they have a personal code of ethics and have adopted a philosophy of consent. They are outnumbered by men who are seeking a woman to exploit. This explains the number of rude messages.

You are right.

I feel D/s can add a very enriching dimension to a relationship, but at the same time, it makes a relationship more complex.

Considering how many people don't have the social qualities which are required for a successful vanilla relationship, it is clear that even much less people have the higher level social qualities which are required for a successful D/s relationship.

My error was indeed to assume that people who want to engage into BDSM are all aware about what it takes to be successful.



In your reply, I see no evidence that you understood the message you replied to.

You might as well have deleted my message unread, since the outcome would be the same.

Years ago, I was a House Alpha for a Domina. One of my responsibilities: Screen the men who wanted to take up some of her time. In this capacity, I communicated with dozens of men. I responded to every man who wrote to Her. No messages were ever deleted unread.

In our protocol, I showed her summaries of every encounter, and I was rewarded for quality service. In four years of performing this service, She found me flawless in this regard.

I have read everything you wrote in this thread. Based on what you wrote here, you would not get past Her screen.




mnottertail -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 7:05:02 AM)

I have no knowledge of where you live, nor your nationality. But as I can see you are 'one of those', there is no hope for you but wergeld. You must pay to be loved, you are not loveable in your own right.

You hopefully have some money put aside so you can engage in professional sessions.



QualityFirst -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 7:09:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PonyGroom


In your reply, I see no evidence that you understood the message you replied to.

Then try to better explain what you tried to convey.

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You might as well have deleted my message unread, since the outcome would be the same.

Not my style. Besides, as I am not an admin on this forum, it would take too much time to delete your message.

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Based on what you wrote here, you would not get past Her screen.

So what? Where is the problem? It's not because someone doesn't want to drive a BMW that others will not do so.



QualityFirst -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 7:15:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I have no knowledge of where you live, nor your nationality.

Then why do you pretend to know something about my chauvinism?

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You must pay to be loved, you are not loveable in your own right.

I very well realize that, even with much money, no domme will ever love me. But that's no problem, as I don't want to be loved, just to be used.

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You hopefully have some money put aside so you can engage in professional sessions.

Having the money would not at least be the problem. The only problem is that I will never abase a lady to fullfil my needs for money. Neither will I ever abase myself to this level.



mnottertail -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 8:05:54 AM)

Why do you pretend anything?

LOL to the rest.

If you didnt get my post the first time, you won't get them with any amount of explanation.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 8:19:18 AM)

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you won't get them with any amount of explanation.

He doesn't get any of it.



QualityFirst -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 9:00:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Why do you pretend anything?

LOL to the rest.

If you didnt get my post the first time, you won't get them with any amount of explanation.

Very interesting message.



QualityFirst -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 9:02:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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you won't get them with any amount of explanation.

He doesn't get any of it.

Do you mean I am stupid?



AAkasha -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 9:18:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: QualityFirst

Second: if a lady get 100 messages wich don't interest her, it takes her at most 5 seconds x 100 = about 8 minutes to answer them all with "No thanks". Are all the dommes here such very important persons that 8 minutes would have dramatic consequences on their lifes, while already this thread shows that some of them spend much more time only to spew out bullshit on the forums?

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The reason you don't often see a 'no thank you' reply is that it's not uncommon for adults to lack the capability to handle rejection and respond with pointlessly vitriolic comments.

I suppose they don't loose time reading such comments, but rather just blocks these guys (although it is very easy to circumvent being blocked).

Is it because a number of men are assholes, that women should treat all men to be the same?



Be logical.

A woman has 30 minutes to spend on CM reviewing and writing messages. That's it. She is busy, she has a job.

She has 35 emails that are unsolicited. She reads them, then starts to respond politely to decline the ones that are not a good fit, but is holding on to the others because she wants to spend 15+ minutes on a good response.

By the time she gets HALF WAY THROUGH the rejections, she has 10+ MORE messages. Guys that saw her pop online. Or, worse, men responding to her polite rejection to say:

* Thank you for the reply! Can you tell me more about why not? I think we are a good fit....Please provide some details to help me in the future, I would be grateful!
* You fat bitch (etc. etc) I never wanted to date you anyway
* "Ok thank you! Is it ok if I reach out in a week to see if you feel different?"

By the time you get HALF way done, you have already got AS MANY new messages as when you started, and you still have NOT responded to the ones you want to.

Meanwhile, others see you "read" the message but did not reply (like....ten minutes ago, seriously) so they write, "Hey! I see you opened my message, I hope I did not offend you! Can you please let me know if I did?"

Most of these men are nice. The messages are ok, but not like the ones you are SAVING to reply to and want to spend some time doing so. You simply cannot keep up!

If another 30 minutes passes, you then start getting "annoyed" messages, "Well I saw you read my response and are too lazy to even give me a five minute answer to my question, so you are a fat cow, and fuck you."

This is not even pointing out the threats. Those come, too.

There is NO way a woman can respond politely to every email and ever, EVER catch up - it is IMPOSSIBLE and allows 0 time to reply to the men she wants to reply to.

And, whenever a woman pops up online, she gets 3+ chat requests (which, when you ignore, you get hate mail for, or a request for a reason), and about 5+ more NEW emails from men that see you online.

The ONLY solution is to IGNORE all the emails except the ones you want to PURSUE so that you can spend quality time on them.

It's the world we live in.

Do you not understand?

Akasha



OsideGirl -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 9:19:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I have no knowledge of where you live, nor your nationality. But as I can see you are 'one of those', there is no hope for you but wergeld.


I'm having Deja Vu with this poster...

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ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 9:46:29 AM)

FR
I am so glad I have figured out how to dissuade most men online. :)



QualityFirst -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 10:17:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha


Do you not understand?

No, honestly not. I told why in my posting #246. Could you tell me, bases on that posting, where I missed something?



LadyPact -> RE: Deleted unread (5/11/2016 12:26:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: QualityFirst
First: if I spend at least 15 minutes to write a well thought message, I am not worth 5 seconds for a "No thanks"?

Here is a reality check. No, you are not. That makes you no different than any other advertisement or solicitation than all of us see everyday.

Out of curiosity, have you started replying to your spam email yet since you started this thread? No? Why not? If you are not, all of the statements you have made on this thread are hypocritical because you want other people to do something that you are not willing to do, yourself.

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Second: if a lady get 100 messages wich don't interest her, it takes her at most 5 seconds x 100 = about 8 minutes to answer them all with "No thanks". Are all the dommes here such very important persons that 8 minutes would have dramatic consequences on their lifes, while already this thread shows that some of them spend much more time only to spew out bullshit on the forums?

Part one. Your math is flawed. You completely skipped the integer of the amount of time that it took the recipient to read the 100 emails. Instead, you went straight for the amount of time it takes to bang out "no thanks" a hundred times on her keyboard.

But, since you want to take the shortcut to that eight minutes a day, lets do some other math...

Eight minutes each day (bare minimum to type out "no thanks") times 365 days a year. That works out to 2920 minutes, which works out to be 48.666~ hours, or two entire 24 hour days plus change in any given year.

Personally, I've been a member of the forum for nine years, two months, and some odd days. For me, that means 2920 minutes times that nine years, which is (for just the nine years, we'll skip the months) 26,280 minutes total. That works out to 23.94 days that I would be wasting on stuff that I wasn't interested in, in the first place.

Now, to address the part I put in bold. When women reply to these 'why don't people answer emails threads," there are certain things you are not taking into account.

* One, we are not just talking to YOU. We are talking to the thousands of guys just like you.

* Two, it's an interesting topic, which unlike the email that you send, is a conversation in which we want to engage.

* Three, some of us actually want to attempt to help people achieve better success.

As one of the people who doesn't use this site to date, it never ceases to amaze me that I read the research about introductory emails, how to improve the chances of getting a response, and a bunch of other online dating data than most of you. That, right there, should be an indicator at how badly most people approach this.

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Is it because a number of men are assholes, that women should treat all men to be the same?

Kind of, because some of us don't want to treat our email inbox as some form of Russian roulette.



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