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congratulations to the longest post here not containing a single word of reference or relevance to the topic

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Oh dear Greta, you really need to study some Christian history if you think that Christians haven't claimed God's command as justification of however many atrocities. And also just read the link I provided you with to see that some of them are still doing it.

but when you want to see the king of the hill of atrocities look to the atheists. By comparison christians were saints. I mean if you want to look at history.

What unmitigated bullshit. In fact, on the contrary, atheism has not been responsible for such death and destruction even close to any of the religious killers.

Actually, Obama has already authorized more killings with drones than the entire Spanish Inquisition.

.....and they are political killings not in the name of any faith in any religious faith.

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The American College of Pediatricians reaffirmed the biological differences between men and women and condemned the idea of teaching kids early on that gender identity is fluid as "child abuse." In a preliminary statement released on Monday, the group of over 400 pediatricians nationwide listed eight points explaining their position scientifically.

(does that mean the pro-transgender people are 'deniers?')

Conditioning children into believing a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse. Endorsing gender discordance as normal via public education and legal policies will confuse children and parents, leading more children to present to “gender clinics” where they will be given puberty-blocking drugs. This, in turn, virtually ensures that they will “choose” a lifetime of carcinogenic and otherwise toxic cross-sex hormones, and likely consider unnecessary surgical mutilation of their healthy body parts as young adults.

In the past few years, books and TV shows promoting transgenderism have been targeted toward children and young adults, with the goal of reaching people before they are old enough to question the ideology of self-described gender...The American College of Pediatricians seeks to reverse this trend, and has data to back up their objections to it. "Facts -- not ideology -- determine reality," the statement declares.

Here are the eight points made by the college, in plain language:

1. Humans are male and female, biologically.

Science is straightforward about this: a person's DNA either has two "X" chromosomes or one "X" and one "Y". These are "genetic markers of health -- not genetic markers of a disorder." Scientifically, human sexuality is "binary by design" with the aim of reproduction. Disorders of sex development (DSDs) are "rightly recognized as disorders," and those who suffer from them "do not constitute a third sex."

2. Gender is not objective, but sex is.

The college defines gender as an awareness of being male or female. This awareness develops over time and may be derailed by various life events. People who "feel like the opposite sex" do not compromise a third sex, but remain biologically male or female. No matter what their stated gender identity, they cannot escape sexual reality, and to think that they can is a delusion.

3. Transgender thinking is confused.

"When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such," the college writes (emphasis added). This is a psychological condition known as gender dysphoria (GD) and it is recognized as a mental disorder in the Disgnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-V).

4. Puberty-blocking hormones are dangerous.

Some transgender advocates push for using hormones to block the natural development of puberty among boys and girls. These hormones "induce a state of disease -- the absence of puberty -- and inhibit growth and fertility in a previously biologically healthy child." Far from a cure, they are a poison.

5. The vast majority of "transgender" boys and girls will accept their natural sex.

As many as 98 percent of gender-confused boys and 88 percent of gender-confused girls eventually accept their original biological sex after puberty.

6. Using puberty-blocking hormones as a kid will endanger you as an adult.

Children who use hormones to block puberty in order to impersonate the opposite sex will need cross-sex hormones (testosterone and estrogen) in late adolescence. Blocking puberty screws up the body, and these cross-sex hormones will add to that disease, as they are associated with dangerous health risks including high blood pressure, blood clots, stroke, and cancer. Ouch.

7. Transgenderism leads to higher suicide rates.

The college notes that rates of suicide are twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex-reassignment surgery. This holds true even in Sweden, which is one of the most LGBTQ-affirming countries.

8. Teaching kids this is good and right is child abuse.

Now we come full circle. Transgender ideology is harming our children, teaching them lies about human biology that have been disproved by science. This is child abuse, and it is refreshing to see a group of over 400 pediatricians denouncing it.

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"Pediatricians Call Youth Transgenderism 'Child Abuse'"

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Oh dear Greta, you really need to study some Christian history if you think that Christians haven't claimed God's command as justification of however many atrocities. And also just read the link I provided you with to see that some of them are still doing it.

but when you want to see the king of the hill of atrocities look to the atheists. By comparison christians were saints. I mean if you want to look at history.

What unmitigated bullshit. In fact, on the contrary, atheism has not been responsible for such death and destruction even close to any of the religious killers.

Actually, Obama has already authorized more killings with drones than the entire Spanish Inquisition.

.....and they are political killings not in the name of any faith in any religious faith.

Seriously. This was a lively and interesting discussion, which we just can't have around here unless it culminates in proving how once again, everything bad that has ever happened on this earth, in any century, is somehow nitpicking and an irrelevant waste of time compared to the antichrist that is Obama.

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New York Governor Andrew Cuomo's opposition to North Carolina's commonsense bathroom law may keep one New York community college's baseball team from going to the national championships. While Cuomo's office tried to distance itself from the issue, the college insists that his injunction leaves it no choice. Tragically, the governor will ban travel to a state, but still travels himself to Cuba and China, which have a much worse record on LGBT issues.

In March, North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory signed House Bill 2, a law that declared multiple-stall restrooms in public facilities should be divided on the basis of biological sex. Shortly afterward, nearly 100 business leaders signed a letter rebuking the state and asking that they rescind the law. Cuomo responded by banning non-essential state travel to North Carolina.

This brings us to Hudson Valley Community College (HVCC) in upstate New York, and its baseball team this season. It has a 24-8 record, and player Kyle Bestle told CBS News, "I think we have a real shot at going to the national championship." If they win the sub-regional championships this weekend, and the regional championships next weekend, they should be able to compete nationally.

Except they won't be able to. Not because of player injury, not because of foul play, and not because of anything any player did. This is when Gov. Cuomo's ban comes back to bite him. When you cancel all "non-essential" travel to North Carolina, you also implicitly ban a state team from competing in a national championship.

A spokesman from Cuomo's office said that the ban does not pertain to community colleges, since they are not considered state entities. But the college's administrators say they will nevertheless abide by the order. "We're standing with Governor Cuomo and with New York's many state agencies, departments and commissions that are doing the same," the college said.

State Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin rebuked Cuomo for "political grandstanding." McLaughlin condemned the governor's double standard between North Carolina and Cuba. "Cuomo goes to Cuba and embraces and praises a Communist dictator that jails and/or kills gay people...but a baseball team can't go to North Carolina because of a law that says use the bathroom of your gender."

"The hypocrisy of Cuomo never ceases to amaze me," McLaughlin concluded. As the New York Daily News reported, gay people in Cuba "do not enjoy basic liberties like freedom of speech or religion. They cannot join an independent labor union or vote." Furthermore, the government routinely harasses homosexuals for their orientation.

"Gays are routinely picked up en masse on the streets, beaten, jailed indefinitely," Herb Sosa of the Hispanic LGBT organization Unity Coalition told left-wing American magazine In These Times.

Next Page: The community college itself just sent administrators to China, which also has a horrible gay discrimination record.

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this is bound to go over really well with the "pretty much anything goes" population:

"Pediatricians Call Youth Transgenderism 'Child Abuse'"

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The American College of Pediatricians reaffirmed the biological differences between men and women and condemned the idea of teaching kids early on that gender identity is fluid as "child abuse." In a preliminary statement released on Monday, the group of over 400 pediatricians nationwide listed eight points explaining their position scientifically.

(does that mean the pro-transgender people are 'deniers?')

Conditioning children into believing a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse. Endorsing gender discordance as normal via public education and legal policies will confuse children and parents, leading more children to present to “gender clinics” where they will be given puberty-blocking drugs. This, in turn, virtually ensures that they will “choose” a lifetime of carcinogenic and otherwise toxic cross-sex hormones, and likely consider unnecessary surgical mutilation of their healthy body parts as young adults.

In the past few years, books and TV shows promoting transgenderism have been targeted toward children and young adults, with the goal of reaching people before they are old enough to question the ideology of self-described gender...The American College of Pediatricians seeks to reverse this trend, and has data to back up their objections to it. "Facts -- not ideology -- determine reality," the statement declares.

Here are the eight points made by the college, in plain language:

1. Humans are male and female, biologically.

Science is straightforward about this: a person's DNA either has two "X" chromosomes or one "X" and one "Y". These are "genetic markers of health -- not genetic markers of a disorder." Scientifically, human sexuality is "binary by design" with the aim of reproduction. Disorders of sex development (DSDs) are "rightly recognized as disorders," and those who suffer from them "do not constitute a third sex."

2. Gender is not objective, but sex is.

The college defines gender as an awareness of being male or female. This awareness develops over time and may be derailed by various life events. People who "feel like the opposite sex" do not compromise a third sex, but remain biologically male or female. No matter what their stated gender identity, they cannot escape sexual reality, and to think that they can is a delusion.

3. Transgender thinking is confused.

"When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such," the college writes (emphasis added). This is a psychological condition known as gender dysphoria (GD) and it is recognized as a mental disorder in the Disgnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-V).

4. Puberty-blocking hormones are dangerous.

Some transgender advocates push for using hormones to block the natural development of puberty among boys and girls. These hormones "induce a state of disease -- the absence of puberty -- and inhibit growth and fertility in a previously biologically healthy child." Far from a cure, they are a poison.

5. The vast majority of "transgender" boys and girls will accept their natural sex.

As many as 98 percent of gender-confused boys and 88 percent of gender-confused girls eventually accept their original biological sex after puberty.

6. Using puberty-blocking hormones as a kid will endanger you as an adult.

Children who use hormones to block puberty in order to impersonate the opposite sex will need cross-sex hormones (testosterone and estrogen) in late adolescence. Blocking puberty screws up the body, and these cross-sex hormones will add to that disease, as they are associated with dangerous health risks including high blood pressure, blood clots, stroke, and cancer. Ouch.

7. Transgenderism leads to higher suicide rates.

The college notes that rates of suicide are twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex-reassignment surgery. This holds true even in Sweden, which is one of the most LGBTQ-affirming countries.

8. Teaching kids this is good and right is child abuse.

Now we come full circle. Transgender ideology is harming our children, teaching them lies about human biology that have been disproved by science. This is child abuse, and it is refreshing to see a group of over 400 pediatricians denouncing it.

https://pjmedia.com/parenting/2016/03/21/pediatricians-call-youth-transgenderism-child-abuse/?singlepage=true

bunch 'a troglodytic homophobic bigots those pediatricians!

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Well, the lead off number 1 would be wrong at face value. You have hermophrodites, inter-sexed, and so on. Don't need to be an ex-barber, leeching the blood to know that.

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off in a completely different direction:

"LGBT Bathroom Hysteria May Keep This Baseball Team From National Championships"

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New York Governor Andrew Cuomo's opposition to North Carolina's commonsense bathroom law may keep one New York community college's baseball team from going to the national championships. While Cuomo's office tried to distance itself from the issue, the college insists that his injunction leaves it no choice. Tragically, the governor will ban travel to a state, but still travels himself to Cuba and China, which have a much worse record on LGBT issues.

In March, North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory signed House Bill 2, a law that declared multiple-stall restrooms in public facilities should be divided on the basis of biological sex. Shortly afterward, nearly 100 business leaders signed a letter rebuking the state and asking that they rescind the law. Cuomo responded by banning non-essential state travel to North Carolina.

This brings us to Hudson Valley Community College (HVCC) in upstate New York, and its baseball team this season. It has a 24-8 record, and player Kyle Bestle told CBS News, "I think we have a real shot at going to the national championship." If they win the sub-regional championships this weekend, and the regional championships next weekend, they should be able to compete nationally.

Except they won't be able to. Not because of player injury, not because of foul play, and not because of anything any player did. This is when Gov. Cuomo's ban comes back to bite him. When you cancel all "non-essential" travel to North Carolina, you also implicitly ban a state team from competing in a national championship.

A spokesman from Cuomo's office said that the ban does not pertain to community colleges, since they are not considered state entities. But the college's administrators say they will nevertheless abide by the order. "We're standing with Governor Cuomo and with New York's many state agencies, departments and commissions that are doing the same," the college said.

State Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin rebuked Cuomo for "political grandstanding." McLaughlin condemned the governor's double standard between North Carolina and Cuba. "Cuomo goes to Cuba and embraces and praises a Communist dictator that jails and/or kills gay people...but a baseball team can't go to North Carolina because of a law that says use the bathroom of your gender."

"The hypocrisy of Cuomo never ceases to amaze me," McLaughlin concluded. As the New York Daily News reported, gay people in Cuba "do not enjoy basic liberties like freedom of speech or religion. They cannot join an independent labor union or vote." Furthermore, the government routinely harasses homosexuals for their orientation.

"Gays are routinely picked up en masse on the streets, beaten, jailed indefinitely," Herb Sosa of the Hispanic LGBT organization Unity Coalition told left-wing American magazine In These Times.

Next Page: The community college itself just sent administrators to China, which also has a horrible gay discrimination record.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/05/12/lgbt-bathroom-hysteria-may-keep-this-baseball-team-from-national-championships/

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bunch 'a troglodytic homophobic bigots those pediatricians!

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he thinks atheists and communists are the same(stalin mao, etc ad nauseam)but according to some you cant chose your religion, you are born to it and are seen as that religion for the rest of your life, (ignoring apostasy "rules")

Quite a strange stance for somebody claiming Stalin as an atheist to take, given that he was raised Greek Orthodox and only decided that he was an atheist after he was expelled from a seminary when its staff decided that he'd never cut it as a priest.

So in your opinion then, once he stepped into a church, and even though he claimed to be an atheist, he was still a member of the church when he killed tens of millions of people?

Why not? You people are claiming that somebody can be Jewish or a moslem because one of their parents belonged to that faith.

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"Pediatricians Call Youth Transgenderism 'Child Abuse'"

A differing take on the ACP Statement.

The American College of Pediatricians (ACP), which utilizes the totally convincing slogan “Best for Children,” has issued a new position statement claiming that respecting transgender children’s identities causes them harm and conservative groups are already latching onto it.

If the claim sounds peculiar, it’s because it’s a claim completely refuted by all available scientific evidence. It’s also because the ACP is not a legitimate medical organization; its name is designed to be mistaken for the American Academy of Pediatrics, which is a national organization with some 60,000 members. The ACP, by contrast, is estimated to have no more than 200 members, and it has been designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its anti-LGBT positions.

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The 36,000-member American Psychiatric Association, which defines mental illnesses through its Diagnostics and Statistics Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), says the exact opposite, explaining, “It is important to note that gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder.” It is only distress associated with such an identity that should be treated — and treated with affirmation.

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ACP also claims, “Rates of suicide are twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden which is among the most LGBQT – affirming countries.” The Swedish study so often cited to reinforce this myth didn’t actually find evidence that undergoing surgery contributed to higher suicide rates. Indeed, the lead researcher of that study has specifically spoken out that anybody using it to draw such conclusions is misrepresenting it. A much more compelling connection has been found between suicidal ideation and experiences of discrimination.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2016/03/22/3762261/pediatrician-hate-group/

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Oh dear Greta, you really need to study some Christian history if you think that Christians haven't claimed God's command as justification of however many atrocities. And also just read the link I provided you with to see that some of them are still doing it.

but when you want to see the king of the hill of atrocities look to the atheists. By comparison christians were saints. I mean if you want to look at history.

What unmitigated bullshit. In fact, on the contrary, atheism has not been responsible for such death and destruction even close to any of the religious killers.

Actually, Obama has already authorized more killings with drones than the entire Spanish Inquisition.

.....and they are political killings not in the name of any faith in any religious faith.

Seriously. This was a lively and interesting discussion, which we just can't have around here unless it culminates in proving how once again, everything bad that has ever happened on this earth, in any century, is somehow nitpicking and an irrelevant waste of time compared to the antichrist that is Obama.

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he thinks atheists and communists are the same(stalin mao, etc ad nauseam)but according to some you cant chose your religion, you are born to it and are seen as that religion for the rest of your life, (ignoring apostasy "rules")

Quite a strange stance for somebody claiming Stalin as an atheist to take, given that he was raised Greek Orthodox and only decided that he was an atheist after he was expelled from a seminary when its staff decided that he'd never cut it as a priest.

So in your opinion then, once he stepped into a church, and even though he claimed to be an atheist, he was still a member of the church when he killed tens of millions of people?

Why not? You people are claiming that somebody can be Jewish or a moslem because one of their parents belonged to that faith.

they are claiming it because it is true.

http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

"A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.

It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship. See What Is Judaism?"