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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

Guess what, Hillary Caesar? Donus Trumpius Brutus doesn't like you and he just might have some friends.

So you're expecting Chelsea Augusta to wrest the Empire from him and his mate Mark Anthony Ryan, then?
[:D]

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You have been drinking the kool-aid.. this supposed poll doesnt bear out what goes on in real life.. why in the world would most hispanics be for a wall when they are the ones helping and supporting illegal hispanics??? Most hispanics i have met are very generous people, they help each other out, they will help another hispanic find work, a place to stay, help in other ways.. In fact, I know that the hispanics I have met have at least 1 family member that is/was in the US illegally & are trying to find a way to become legal (which has become extremely hard to do in the last decade or two).. they have sympathy for how difficult its become.. being for a wall would be extremely contrary to that.. the few American-born Hispanics or legal hispanics that are for a wall are dumbed down and buy into the whole America first crap & for them its all about the money, they are no different from the greedy white Americans that are all about the money.. imo those few hispanics that are for a wall have sold their own kind out.. they got their legal status so fuck everyone else..

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ORIGINAL: tj444

You have been drinking the kool-aid.. this supposed poll doesnt bear out what goes on in real life.. why in the world would most hispanics be for a wall when they are the ones helping and supporting illegal hispanics??? Most hispanics i have met are very generous people, they help each other out, they will help another hispanic find work, a place to stay, help in other ways.. In fact, I know that the hispanics I have met have at least 1 family member that is/was in the US illegally & are trying to find a way to become legal (which has become extremely hard to do in the last decade or two).. they have sympathy for how difficult its become.. being for a wall would be extremely contrary to that.. the few American-born Hispanics or legal hispanics that are for a wall are dumbed down and buy into the whole America first crap & for them its all about the money, they are no different from the greedy white Americans that are all about the money.. imo those few hispanics that are for a wall have sold their own kind out.. they got their legal status so fuck everyone else..

From discussions with workers around farms and ranches, most of the guys don't want illigals coming and undercutting the pay they are receiving. Many of them have been here for years and their pay reflect that. They are proud of it as well. They don't want illigals coming and offering to work for less. If you consider it, it's just the same as jobs in the steel or auto industry being shipped overseas except this is people willing to take lower wages coming here.

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imo those few hispanics that are for a wall have sold their own kind out.. they got their legal status so fuck everyone else..

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: tj444
imo those few hispanics that are for a wall have sold their own kind out.. they got their legal status so fuck everyone else..

Law abiding Legal immigrants have sold out their own kind?
That's crazy!

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ORIGINAL: tj444
do you really think that all of them came legally in the first place? I would say most hispanic immigrants came illegally also but when they came it was much easier to become legal than today.. like i said, they got theirs so fuck everyone else..

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ORIGINAL: tj444

You have been drinking the kool-aid.. this supposed poll doesnt bear out what goes on in real life.. why in the world would most hispanics be for a wall when they are the ones helping and supporting illegal hispanics??? Most hispanics i have met are very generous people, they help each other out, they will help another hispanic find work, a place to stay, help in other ways.. In fact, I know that the hispanics I have met have at least 1 family member that is/was in the US illegally & are trying to find a way to become legal (which has become extremely hard to do in the last decade or two).. they have sympathy for how difficult its become.. being for a wall would be extremely contrary to that.. the few American-born Hispanics or legal hispanics that are for a wall are dumbed down and buy into the whole America first crap & for them its all about the money, they are no different from the greedy white Americans that are all about the money.. imo those few hispanics that are for a wall have sold their own kind out.. they got their legal status so fuck everyone else..

From discussions with workers around farms and ranches, most of the guys don't want illigals coming and undercutting the pay they are receiving. Many of them have been here for years and their pay reflect that. They are proud of it as well. They don't want illigals coming and offering to work for less. If you consider it, it's just the same as jobs in the steel or auto industry being shipped overseas except this is people willing to take lower wages coming here.

Yeah? how much more than illegals are they paid? not all that much more, I'd say.. I remember having a discussion with a hispanic guy in LA who had a stucco business and his attitude was he would do a contract for even a small profit, like even only $50 profit..

Like I said, those that are out for the money, even if it isnt all that much more, they just become another American arsehole.. they got theirs so fuck everyone else.. yeah, I guess they should be proud of that, all right.. [8|]

but I bet you are a Trump supporter.. Trump, who hires hundreds of HB visa guest workers to work at his Mara-la-go resort, & I expect any of his other 500 businesses that he can pull that off with..

Oh, and those jobs shipped overseas, that is totally different than immigrants coming here so their kids can have a better and safer life, those jobs go overseas cuz your greedy American companies want more profit and they dont care how badly they screw fellow Americans over to get that profit.. and those companies know consumers are stupid enough to buy the shite they bring back here after costing you your jobs..

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You have been drinking the kool-aid.. this supposed poll doesnt bear out what goes on in real life.. why in the world would most hispanics be for a wall when they are the ones helping and supporting illegal hispanics??? Most hispanics i have met are very generous people, they help each other out, they will help another hispanic find work, a place to stay, help in other ways.. In fact, I know that the hispanics I have met have at least 1 family member that is/was in the US illegally & are trying to find a way to become legal (which has become extremely hard to do in the last decade or two).. they have sympathy for how difficult its become.. being for a wall would be extremely contrary to that.. the few American-born Hispanics or legal hispanics that are for a wall are dumbed down and buy into the whole America first crap & for them its all about the money, they are no different from the greedy white Americans that are all about the money.. imo those few hispanics that are for a wall have sold their own kind out.. they got their legal status so fuck everyone else..

From discussions with workers around farms and ranches, most of the guys don't want illigals coming and undercutting the pay they are receiving. Many of them have been here for years and their pay reflect that. They are proud of it as well. They don't want illigals coming and offering to work for less. If you consider it, it's just the same as jobs in the steel or auto industry being shipped overseas except this is people willing to take lower wages coming here.

Yeah? how much more than illegals are they paid? not all that much more, I'd say.. I remember having a discussion with a hispanic guy in LA who had a stucco business and his attitude was he would do a contract for even a small profit, like even only $50 profit..

Like I said, those that are out for the money, even if it isnt all that much more, they just become another American arsehole.. they got theirs so fuck everyone else.. yeah, I guess they should be proud of that, all right.. [8|]

but I bet you are a Trump supporter.. Trump, who hires hundreds of HB visa guest workers to work at his Mara-la-go resort, & I expect any of his other 500 businesses that he can pull that off with..

Oh, and those jobs shipped overseas, that is totally different than immigrants coming here so their kids can have a better and safer life, those jobs go overseas cuz your greedy American companies want more profit and they dont care how badly they screw fellow Americans over to get that profit.. and those companies know consumers are stupid enough to buy the shite they bring back here after costing you your jobs..

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do you really think that all of them came legally in the first place? I would say most hispanic immigrants came illegally also but when they came it was much easier to become legal than today.. like i said, they got theirs so fuck everyone else..

Now you are accusing the law abiding legal ones to be illegal as well. Wow! Okay!

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From my understanding they usually make $12-$18 an hour for skilled work, usually keeping machinery running and leading crews. You seem to have a pretty bitter view of life. You don't need to project it onto me.

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From my understanding they usually make $12-$18 an hour for skilled work, usually keeping machinery running and leading crews. You seem to have a pretty bitter view of life. You don't need to project it onto me.

that is not all that much after years of working for an employer, of course it depends on how many hours they work too, if they get overtime pay, etc.. If I have a bitter view its cuz I have seen how poor people are treated here, especially black & hispanic people.. the racial tension is something I have never encountered until coming here.. its sad, I feel for them.. But I guess you & people like you would rather not have your perfect life disturbed by hearing about that.. [8|]

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From my understanding they usually make $12-$18 an hour for skilled work, usually keeping machinery running and leading crews. You seem to have a pretty bitter view of life. You don't need to project it onto me.

that is not all that much after years of working for an employer, of course it depends on how many hours they work too, if they get overtime pay, etc.. If I have a bitter view its cuz I have seen how poor people are treated here, especially black & hispanic people.. the racial tension is something I have never encountered until coming here.. its sad, I feel for them.. But I guess you & people like you would rather not have your perfect life disturbed by hearing about that.. [8|]

No,you're bitter generally. I really don't think you feel for anyone except for negative people.

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that is not all that much after years of working for an employer, of course it depends on how many hours they work too, if they get overtime pay, etc.. If I have a bitter view its cuz I have seen how poor people are treated here, especially black & hispanic people.. the racial tension is something I have never encountered until coming here.. its sad, I feel for them.. But I guess you & people like you would rather not have your perfect life disturbed by hearing about that..

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that is not all that much after years of working for an employer, of course it depends on how many hours they work too, if they get overtime pay, etc.. If I have a bitter view its cuz I have seen how poor people are treated here, especially black & hispanic people.. the racial tension is something I have never encountered until coming here.. its sad, I feel for them.. But I guess you & people like you would rather not have your perfect life disturbed by hearing about that..

I think the attitude is rather different.
In my country. You see even 98 yr olds, going around collecting cardboards, and pushing trolleys of it. Those cardboards sell for like 10cents per kg or something. So they may do 8 hours of work and only make $5 or something ridiculous small.

In many interviews, asking them, why they do it? They say, they just want to be doing something. Their children tell them to stop working and stay at home, but they just want to be doing something. They are proud of just earning money legally, no matter how small.

I feel more inspired by people from poverty just working hard then worry about people from poverty, perpetrate their victim cycle.

My own mom and her siblings, were like working in farms since 5 yr old, because their parents were too poor to feed them, so they gotta work for free food, not even for money, basically, their parents sold their labouring services, in exchange for free roof and food. All of them are doing well today financially in and their careers, despite lack of education, some have funded their own education.

I feel more inspired by these people. And how they do it? Despite not having privileges. Generally a person who complains about how hard they got it, will have a hard time succeeding, because they are not looking for solutions or to help themselves.

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From my understanding they usually make $12-$18 an hour for skilled work, usually keeping machinery running and leading crews. You seem to have a pretty bitter view of life. You don't need to project it onto me.

that is not all that much after years of working for an employer, of course it depends on how many hours they work too, if they get overtime pay, etc.. If I have a bitter view its cuz I have seen how poor people are treated here, especially black & hispanic people.. the racial tension is something I have never encountered until coming here.. its sad, I feel for them.. But I guess you & people like you would rather not have your perfect life disturbed by hearing about that.. [8|]

No,you're bitter generally. I really don't think you feel for anyone except for negative people.

for poor people there is a lot to be negative about.. so you think I should just ignore their plight? that I shouldnt express how I feel about how they are treated? that I shouldnt think about how things could be made better? hmmm..

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Talking about racial tensions. I feel inspired by chinese in Malaysia and Indonesia. Where they are racially discriminated. Especially in Malaysia where until today, the government openly promotes a Malay First government policies. By default of not being Malay, you don't have access to all the perks and welfare the country provides, you are 101% on your own.

How do they become the most discriminated, and least helped, transforming into the richest people in that Malay First country? That's something to study and learn.

I always feel like, in our chinese upbringing, we are taught that, people may look down you, discriminate against you. Your reaction to that is to ignore it, do your job well, learn as much as you can, infact, offer to do other people's job for nothing, do more. Learn more, become the most capable, the most indispensable. In the end, you will prevail.

After all, nobody could possibly give us more shit than our own tiger moms.

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From my understanding they usually make $12-$18 an hour for skilled work, usually keeping machinery running and leading crews. You seem to have a pretty bitter view of life. You don't need to project it onto me.

that is not all that much after years of working for an employer, of course it depends on how many hours they work too, if they get overtime pay, etc.. If I have a bitter view its cuz I have seen how poor people are treated here, especially black & hispanic people.. the racial tension is something I have never encountered until coming here.. its sad, I feel for them.. But I guess you & people like you would rather not have your perfect life disturbed by hearing about that.. [8|]

No,you're bitter generally. I really don't think you feel for anyone except for negative people.

for poor people there is a lot to be negative about.. so you think I should just ignore their plight? that I shouldnt express how I feel about how they are treated? that I shouldnt think about how things could be made better? hmmm..

Once again, don't project your negative state on others.

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Talking about racial tensions. I feel inspired by chinese in Malaysia and Indonesia. Where they are racially discriminated. Especially in Malaysia where until today, the government openly promotes a Malay First government policies. By default of not being Malay, you don't have access to all the perks and welfare the country provides, you are 101% on your own.

How do they become the most discriminated, and least helped, transforming into the richest people in that Malay First country? That's something to study and learn.

I always feel like, in our chinese upbringing, we are taught that, people may look down you, discriminate against you. Your reaction to that is to ignore it, do your job well, learn as much as you can, infact, offer to do other people's job for nothing, do more. Learn more, become the most capable, the most indispensable. In the end, you will prevail.

After all, nobody could possibly give us more shit than our own tiger moms.

That is what the Hispanics here are trying to do too, most work hard, some start small businesses even tho they are illegal, they hire Americans but if they are caught by ICE they can be deported and lose their business, lose their home, lose everything they have worked years for.. even if they have a successful small business, there is no way for them to become legal..