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Blank101 -> RE: Muslims and Christians (5/17/2016 6:02:15 AM)
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Greta75
No authentic Islam scholar in the Muslim world would agree with you that Hadiths come second to the Quran. You cannot understand the Quran without the Hadith. They go hand in hand. Quran has vague verses. Hadith explains more indepth how to interprete the verses in the Quran by giving examples. This is exactly why, moderate muslims who desperately want to ditch the hadith and discredit it, because from the beginning of time of Islam. There has been no room for different interpretation. Thanks to the Hadith. It's not like the bible where it is the ONLY book, Quran has a secondary official books that tells you exactly how to interpret it correctly and the Hadith is where all the real nastiness starts. And for them to have more peaceful interpretation of Islam, new school Muslims wants to discredit the authenticity of the Hadith but you can't come in much later in life, in the long history of practising Islam and then decide, the hadith that has from the beginning of time been revered as THE guide to interpreting the Quran correctly and suddenly denounce it to the Muslim world as false and inaccurate! It might work convincing lefties. But not the Muslim people.
The best part is, all the hadiths are ranked according to how authentic and accurate the information are. They are annointed as super authentic officially! The top 3 ones.
And, find me a Muslim country in this world who does not punish apostasy? There is none. Not all of them is death, but it is against the law of ALL Muslim countries, and if there is no death, there is imprisonment.
Malaysia constantly have this fights, where one parents is Muslim and one parent is Hindu for example. And the child wants to convert to a Hindu. The law tells him. Sure, then face the death penalty. And they never win it. As in successfully win conversion. In the end, they battle, and lose, and give up and decide to value their life. In Malaysia, they make it super strict. If your mother or father is a Muslim, You're a Muslim whether you like it or not. Period. And that's a super moderate Muslim country.
The battle is so bad to the extent where parents battle at courts, IF their son died, and one wants to bury them Hindu way, and the other wants to bury Muslim way. And Muslim way always wins.
And worst of all, they have religious police that patrols and enforce sharia laws, even in the most modern cities like Kuala Lumpur. If you are a non Muslim, there is nothing to worry about. But if you are officially recognised by the country as a Muslim, because one of your parent is a Muslim. IF they caught you just holding hands with a woman. You must produce a marriage certificate, or you are screwed! It's jail term! Immediate arrest.
They raid hotels too and check on Muslim couples.
The oppression is soooo terrible. It just sickens me to hear the left defending this disgusting religion day after day.
I was speaking specifically of apostasy and death.
As far as the Hadith..it's considered to the second hand accounts of the prophet Muhammad, is it not? And the Quran is considered to be the literal word of God (Allah), right? https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-quran-sharia-and-hadith
It sounds like the Hadith is the equivalent to the old/new testament. Authenticity aside, they are interpretations of the word of god that came hundreds of years later. The Bible, and its old testament, has had its fair share of violence. How can you seriously defend the Hadit's teaching over the old testaments? You can't have it both ways. Why can't moderate Muslims ditch the Hadith, but Christians can ditch the old testament and establish a slightly less violent new testament? Seriously?
I really hope you're not accusing me of being a lefty. You may not like the "oppressiveness" of Islam, but you don't speak for everyone. All I've done is provide an objective opinion.
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