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Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/19/2016 6:01:11 PM   
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"So I was standing there with him in the hospital and out of nowhere he asked me, 'Are there any Muslims in this hospital?'" [son] Jim Bennett told NBC News Wednesday evening.

"I said, 'Yes, dad, I'm sure there are.'" Jim said of the conversation, which was first reported by the Daily Beast. "And he was very emotional and said, 'I want to go up to every single one of them and apologize, I want to go up to every single one of them and tell them how grateful I am that they are in this country and apologize on behalf of the Republican Party for Donald Trump.'"

* * *

im Bennett said that when he later spoke to his mother, Joyce Bennett, about the conversation, she told him that expressing a sense of inclusion for ostracized populations, especially Muslims, had become "something that he was doing quite a lot of in the last months of his life."

Joyce told her son that his father had approached people wearing hijabs in an airport to "let them know that he was grateful they were in the country and the country was better for them being here."

Bennett, a three-term Republican Senator who lost in Utah's 2010 Republican primary to two tea-party opponents, had become increasingly concerned with Trump's rhetoric in recent months, even after he had initially written off the billionaire businessman when he first jumped into the race.

"I think he got increasingly troubled as he saw the Republican Party becoming the party of Trump," Jim told NBC News. "I think Trump's rise was really the motivation for him to recognize the importance of expressing his desire for inclusion. He just felt it was his responsibly to push back."


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/gop-senator-bob-bennett-apologized-muslims-trump-while-deathbed-n576566

Now that's character. And that's the America I love.

Rest in peace, Senator.

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/19/2016 7:07:37 PM   
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Good for you. Now go put an addition on your house and get a second job to support them. And if you got young daughters, make sure they get alot of exposure to them, along with a bunch of "private time".

People with common sense don't want ANYONE coming here anymore, we like our spaces and all that. And discrimination is learned, not taught.

Whats ore, they are not screening them, a fingerprints of a few actually here have been found on bombs n shit over there.

I think they should be required to eat pork before getting in. It is not the race, it is the religion. Judaism grew out of most of their fucking stupidity, but the Muslims have not.

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/19/2016 9:57:41 PM   
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Good for you. Now go put an addition on your house and get a second job to support them. And if you got young daughters, make sure they get alot of exposure to them, along with a bunch of "private time".

People with common sense don't want ANYONE coming here anymore, we like our spaces and all that. And discrimination is learned, not taught.

Whats ore, they are not screening them, a fingerprints of a few actually here have been found on bombs n shit over there.

I think they should be required to eat pork before getting in. It is not the race, it is the religion. Judaism grew out of most of their fucking stupidity, but the Muslims have not.

T^T


Of course they are screening refugees, if they are refugees they go thru a couple of years and multiple screenings, only a very small number ever get so far as being allowed on US soil.. Those that arent refugees have to jump thru the same hoops & screening any immigrant needs to jump thru..

As far as the fingerprints go, I say BS.. you cant trust the govt, that has been proven over and over again.. they lie, even under oath & to Judges..

"Brandon Mayfield (born July 15, 1966) is an American attorney in Washington County, Oregon. He was erroneously linked to the 2004 Madrid train bombings. On May 6, 2004, the FBI arrested Mayfield as a material witness in connection with the Madrid attacks, and held him for over two weeks.

Following the 2004 Madrid train bombings fingerprints on a bag containing detonating devices were found by Spanish authorities. The Spanish National Police shared the fingerprints with the FBI through Interpol. 20 possible matches for one of the fingerprints were found in the FBI database and one of the possible matches was Brandon Mayfield. His prints were in the FBI database because of his arrest two decades earlier.[clarification needed] He became the prime suspect because of his conversion to Islam and because he had represented one of the Portland Seven.

The FBI described the fingerprint match as "100% verified". According to the court documents in judge Ann Aiken's decision, this information was largely "fabricated and concocted by the FBI and DOJ". When the FBI finally sent Mayfield's fingerprints to the Spanish authorities, they contested the matching of the fingerprints from Brandon Mayfield to the ones associated with the Madrid bombing. Further, the Spanish authorities informed the FBI they had other suspects in the case, Moroccan immigrants not linked to anyone in the USA. The FBI disregarded the information from the Spanish authorities, and proceeded to spy on Mayfield and his family further.

On May 19 the Spanish authorities announced that the fingerprints actually belonged to an Algerian national, Ouhnane Daoud

On November 29, 2006, the U.S. government settled part of the lawsuit with Mayfield for a reported $2 million. The government issued a formal apology to Mayfield as part of the settlement. The settlement allowed Mayfield to pursue a legal challenge against the Patriot Act"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Mayfield


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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 4:35:09 AM   
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"So I was standing there with him in the hospital and out of nowhere he asked me, 'Are there any Muslims in this hospital?'" [son] Jim Bennett told NBC News Wednesday evening.

"I said, 'Yes, dad, I'm sure there are.'" Jim said of the conversation, which was first reported by the Daily Beast. "And he was very emotional and said, 'I want to go up to every single one of them and apologize, I want to go up to every single one of them and tell them how grateful I am that they are in this country and apologize on behalf of the Republican Party for Donald Trump.'"

* * *

im Bennett said that when he later spoke to his mother, Joyce Bennett, about the conversation, she told him that expressing a sense of inclusion for ostracized populations, especially Muslims, had become "something that he was doing quite a lot of in the last months of his life."

Joyce told her son that his father had approached people wearing hijabs in an airport to "let them know that he was grateful they were in the country and the country was better for them being here."

Bennett, a three-term Republican Senator who lost in Utah's 2010 Republican primary to two tea-party opponents, had become increasingly concerned with Trump's rhetoric in recent months, even after he had initially written off the billionaire businessman when he first jumped into the race.

"I think he got increasingly troubled as he saw the Republican Party becoming the party of Trump," Jim told NBC News. "I think Trump's rise was really the motivation for him to recognize the importance of expressing his desire for inclusion. He just felt it was his responsibly to push back."


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/gop-senator-bob-bennett-apologized-muslims-trump-while-deathbed-n576566

Now that's character. And that's the America I love.

Rest in peace, Senator.
Oh for fuck's sake, you gotta be kidding me.

You're getting all weepy because this opponent of abortion, public health care, right to privacy and appropriate taxation for the rich suddenly had a deathbed conversion to anti-Trumpism?

Give me a fucking break. Supposed death-bed sentiments (no doubt embossed or entirely made up by his Democrat-leaning son) are a poor substitute for actually acting like a responsible senator instead of a GOP cunt.

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 7:09:32 AM   
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"So I was standing there with him in the hospital and out of nowhere he asked me, 'Are there any Muslims in this hospital?'" [son] Jim Bennett told NBC News Wednesday evening.

"I said, 'Yes, dad, I'm sure there are.'" Jim said of the conversation, which was first reported by the Daily Beast. "And he was very emotional and said, 'I want to go up to every single one of them and apologize, I want to go up to every single one of them and tell them how grateful I am that they are in this country and apologize on behalf of the Republican Party for Donald Trump.'"

* * *

im Bennett said that when he later spoke to his mother, Joyce Bennett, about the conversation, she told him that expressing a sense of inclusion for ostracized populations, especially Muslims, had become "something that he was doing quite a lot of in the last months of his life."

Joyce told her son that his father had approached people wearing hijabs in an airport to "let them know that he was grateful they were in the country and the country was better for them being here."

Bennett, a three-term Republican Senator who lost in Utah's 2010 Republican primary to two tea-party opponents, had become increasingly concerned with Trump's rhetoric in recent months, even after he had initially written off the billionaire businessman when he first jumped into the race.

"I think he got increasingly troubled as he saw the Republican Party becoming the party of Trump," Jim told NBC News. "I think Trump's rise was really the motivation for him to recognize the importance of expressing his desire for inclusion. He just felt it was his responsibly to push back."


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/gop-senator-bob-bennett-apologized-muslims-trump-while-deathbed-n576566

Now that's character. And that's the America I love.

Rest in peace, Senator.
Oh for fuck's sake, you gotta be kidding me.

You're getting all weepy because this opponent of abortion, public health care, right to privacy and appropriate taxation for the rich suddenly had a deathbed conversion to anti-Trumpism?

Give me a fucking break. Supposed death-bed sentiments (no doubt embossed or entirely made up by his Democrat-leaning son) are a poor substitute for actually acting like a responsible senator instead of a GOP cunt.

Additionally, only now do some repubs think Trump will do more damage to America's good faith diplomacy and soft power in the world when of course, the 8 years under Bush, not much worse could have been done to where now, most of the world in poll after poll, believe the US, the greatest threat...to world peace.

I wonder if Iraq and Afghanistan had anything to do with that. Many over the years have been suspect over the US govt's version of 9/11 while almost all of the young around the world, don't even know what hell we are talking about and call the so-called 'war on terror'...America's war.



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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 7:18:39 AM   
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Additionally, only now do some repubs think Trump will do more damage to America's good faith diplomacy and soft power in the world when of course, the 8 years under Bush, not much worse could have been done to where now, most of the world in poll after poll, believe the US, the greatest threat...to world peace.

I'd have a lot more sympathy for them over that if they'd recognised Butthair Boy as a threat to their approved candidates before he'd more or less won the fight for the nomination.
I wonder if some of the Republican Illuminati will be voting for Hilary if they can't find an excuse to deny Trump the nomination? That would be a thing of beauty and hilarity. You could almost talk about the tea party bullshit that they started stoking up as soon as the whitest black man in America was elected president and vultures coming home to roost in this context, couldn't you?

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 7:22:38 AM   
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Hillary has enough trouble trying to get Democrats to vote for her, let alone Republicans.

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 7:38:43 AM   
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weird, she has more actual counted votes from the primaries than anyone.
In New York people voted for her in the primary with almost twice the votes that trump got (524,000 to 1,054 million)
She isnt the nominee. not yet..
While I would rather see bernie win, im realistic.
Its a long way to november.


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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 7:40:40 AM   
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Hillary has enough trouble trying to get Democrats to vote for her, let alone Republicans.

For Whoremods too, there is an 'establishment' which I prefer to call non-partisan rather then bi-partisan because all they care about is themselves (and the military) not the country per se. So they look upon Muslim immigration to the US as a small move forward if nothing else...stoking more fear.

Like Kissinger has said, the only thing standing in the way of one-world govt., i.e., a New World Order...is a strong America. So our individuality, what little remains of our democratic system, gun rights and instinctive suspicions of govt....will eventually have to go.

Fear on issues just like this one, distractions and partisanship are the keys. Oh, and the 'establishment' is playing the long game. As I've written, a slow march to the 4TH Reich.

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 7:42:06 AM   
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its already a one world order...just the dots and crosses have to be finalised.
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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 7:50:10 AM   
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its already a one world order...just the dots and crosses have to be finalised.
cherrrhist

Well one could reasonably say that but those I's dotted and T's crossed will be a single world currency (the Amero) and 3 political regions...Western, European and Asian and by force if necessary.

Oh and the proof if anyone of us is still alive by that time, it will not really matter how many Ameros will have to be printed..inflation being of no concern to the elite oligarchs.

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 8:03:33 AM   
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Good for you. Now go put an addition on your house and get a second job to support them. And if you got young daughters, make sure they get alot of exposure to them, along with a bunch of "private time".

People with common sense don't want ANYONE coming here anymore, we like our spaces and all that. And discrimination is learned, not taught.

Whats ore, they are not screening them, a fingerprints of a few actually here have been found on bombs n shit over there.

I think they should be required to eat pork before getting in. It is not the race, it is the religion. Judaism grew out of most of their fucking stupidity, but the Muslims have not.

T^T


Of course they are screening refugees, if they are refugees they go thru a couple of years and multiple screenings, only a very small number ever get so far as being allowed on US soil.. Those that arent refugees have to jump thru the same hoops & screening any immigrant needs to jump thru..

As far as the fingerprints go, I say BS.. you cant trust the govt, that has been proven over and over again.. they lie, even under oath & to Judges..

"Brandon Mayfield (born July 15, 1966) is an American attorney in Washington County, Oregon. He was erroneously linked to the 2004 Madrid train bombings. On May 6, 2004, the FBI arrested Mayfield as a material witness in connection with the Madrid attacks, and held him for over two weeks.

Following the 2004 Madrid train bombings fingerprints on a bag containing detonating devices were found by Spanish authorities. The Spanish National Police shared the fingerprints with the FBI through Interpol. 20 possible matches for one of the fingerprints were found in the FBI database and one of the possible matches was Brandon Mayfield. His prints were in the FBI database because of his arrest two decades earlier.[clarification needed] He became the prime suspect because of his conversion to Islam and because he had represented one of the Portland Seven.

The FBI described the fingerprint match as "100% verified". According to the court documents in judge Ann Aiken's decision, this information was largely "fabricated and concocted by the FBI and DOJ". When the FBI finally sent Mayfield's fingerprints to the Spanish authorities, they contested the matching of the fingerprints from Brandon Mayfield to the ones associated with the Madrid bombing. Further, the Spanish authorities informed the FBI they had other suspects in the case, Moroccan immigrants not linked to anyone in the USA. The FBI disregarded the information from the Spanish authorities, and proceeded to spy on Mayfield and his family further.

On May 19 the Spanish authorities announced that the fingerprints actually belonged to an Algerian national, Ouhnane Daoud

On November 29, 2006, the U.S. government settled part of the lawsuit with Mayfield for a reported $2 million. The government issued a formal apology to Mayfield as part of the settlement. The settlement allowed Mayfield to pursue a legal challenge against the Patriot Act"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Mayfield


Hum, so you don't trust the government, it lies. Yet you're sure they are spending a couple of years vetting each immigrant that comes here. How odd is that thinking?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/17/senior-obama-officials-have-warned-of-challenges-in-screening-refugees-from-syria/

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/21/fbi-director-admits-us-cant-vet-all-syrian-refugees-for-terror-ties-video/

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 8:14:30 AM   
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weird, she has more actual counted votes from the primaries than anyone.
In New York people voted for her in the primary with almost twice the votes that trump got (524,000 to 1,054 million)
She isnt the nominee. not yet..
While I would rather see bernie win, im realistic.
Its a long way to november.


That's certainly what the Clinton campaign is saying. They don't mention that the republican primaries had 17 people to split the votes, that in the NY primaries there were four republicans to split the vote or that NY is a closed primary state where only people registered democrat or republican can vote thus leaving out all of the independents Trump is getting.

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 9:27:45 AM   
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Anyone who wants a one world government is nuts. You already see how detached and unresponsive the US federal government is, a one world government could only make it worse.

You already see how bad it is WITH the Constitution, think of what they'll without the (very) few constraints still valid.

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 9:39:00 AM   
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Good for you. Now go put an addition on your house and get a second job to support them. And if you got young daughters, make sure they get alot of exposure to them, along with a bunch of "private time".

People with common sense don't want ANYONE coming here anymore, we like our spaces and all that. And discrimination is learned, not taught.

Whats ore, they are not screening them, a fingerprints of a few actually here have been found on bombs n shit over there.

I think they should be required to eat pork before getting in. It is not the race, it is the religion. Judaism grew out of most of their fucking stupidity, but the Muslims have not.

T^T


Of course they are screening refugees, if they are refugees they go thru a couple of years and multiple screenings, only a very small number ever get so far as being allowed on US soil.. Those that arent refugees have to jump thru the same hoops & screening any immigrant needs to jump thru..

As far as the fingerprints go, I say BS.. you cant trust the govt, that has been proven over and over again.. they lie, even under oath & to Judges..

"Brandon Mayfield (born July 15, 1966) is an American attorney in Washington County, Oregon. He was erroneously linked to the 2004 Madrid train bombings. On May 6, 2004, the FBI arrested Mayfield as a material witness in connection with the Madrid attacks, and held him for over two weeks.

Following the 2004 Madrid train bombings fingerprints on a bag containing detonating devices were found by Spanish authorities. The Spanish National Police shared the fingerprints with the FBI through Interpol. 20 possible matches for one of the fingerprints were found in the FBI database and one of the possible matches was Brandon Mayfield. His prints were in the FBI database because of his arrest two decades earlier.[clarification needed] He became the prime suspect because of his conversion to Islam and because he had represented one of the Portland Seven.

The FBI described the fingerprint match as "100% verified". According to the court documents in judge Ann Aiken's decision, this information was largely "fabricated and concocted by the FBI and DOJ". When the FBI finally sent Mayfield's fingerprints to the Spanish authorities, they contested the matching of the fingerprints from Brandon Mayfield to the ones associated with the Madrid bombing. Further, the Spanish authorities informed the FBI they had other suspects in the case, Moroccan immigrants not linked to anyone in the USA. The FBI disregarded the information from the Spanish authorities, and proceeded to spy on Mayfield and his family further.

On May 19 the Spanish authorities announced that the fingerprints actually belonged to an Algerian national, Ouhnane Daoud

On November 29, 2006, the U.S. government settled part of the lawsuit with Mayfield for a reported $2 million. The government issued a formal apology to Mayfield as part of the settlement. The settlement allowed Mayfield to pursue a legal challenge against the Patriot Act"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Mayfield


Hum, so you don't trust the government, it lies. Yet you're sure they are spending a couple of years vetting each immigrant that comes here. How odd is that thinking?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/17/senior-obama-officials-have-warned-of-challenges-in-screening-refugees-from-syria/

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/21/fbi-director-admits-us-cant-vet-all-syrian-refugees-for-terror-ties-video/


Of course there are challenges, despite all their spying, the US govt doesnt have fat files on everything anyone alive on the planet like they do on Americans. Nothing is foolproof, there is always some amount of risk, no matter how small that may be, its still there. (duh)

Its not just the US that vets the refugees, the UN vets them all first, then the US goes thru to vet the best of those, & they vet them multiple times.. They arent gonna let anyone in that has even a hint of any terrorist ties or anything unusual, after all, they decided that this American born lawyer from Oregon was a terrorist and they tried framing him (the Spanish cops totally fucked that frame-up for them tho) so what makes you think they would do a 180 and turn around and let terrorists into the country??? Yes, I trust the govt to screen refugees to the best of their ability, do I trust the govt in finding homegrown terrorists, no I dont.. Oh, and its not the refugees screening that is the weak spot, its the screening of other immigrants that has holes, like the San Bernardino couple where she came into the US on a fiance/marriage visa.. or family sponsored visa or even an EB5 investor visa (that one gets the least amount of scrutiny & is the easiest, fastest way to get a green card)..

What seems to go over most people's heads is that if they can do that to him, they can do it to anyone..

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 9:45:30 AM   
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You'll have to provide me citations on the multiple layers of vetting. I haven't seen it discussed anywhere.

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 9:51:13 AM   
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You'll have to provide me citations on the multiple layers of vetting. I haven't seen it discussed anywhere.

I have posted about it before so yes, its been discussed and nothing new..

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 9:53:10 AM   
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That's certainly what the Clinton campaign is saying.


NO, I got the figures from politico not hillarys "campaign"
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/new-york
See Below for the figures

New York
Presidential Primaries,
April 19, 2016
Detailed Results
Democratic
99.6% Reporting
Delegates Allocated: 285/291
Delegates
Winner H. Clinton 58.0% 1,054,083 177
B. Sanders 42.0% 763,469 108


Republican
99.3% Reporting
Delegates Allocated: 95/95
Delegates
Winner D. Trump 60.4% 524,932 89
J. Kasich 25.1% 217,904 6
T. Cruz 14.5% 126,151
B. Carson 0.0% 0





They don't mention that the republican primaries had 17 people to split the votes.
Yanno I could have sworn by the time the primaries FIRST started in feb, the field was down to 13 (Iowa)
Oh and one of those was "OTHER" who got more votes than gilmore did.


That in the NY primaries there were four republicans to split the vote.
Well Carson didnt get any votes, so Im gonna go with 3 now.


or that NY is a closed primary state where only people registered democrat or republican can vote thus leaving out all of the independents Trump is getting.


If you do the math right.... an extra 185,096 Independents would have needed to vote just in an open primary.




Now, Im not saying any of it means anything at this point, apart from my original point that hillary is getting dems to vote for her.
Not as many as she thinks she deserves, no doubt. Certainly not as many as her campaign wants.
But the biggest mouth saying that he will get independents and dems is Trump and his base.
Ive religiously stated that a lot can change. there has been upset and surprise on both sides, its a bloody mess. Until a nom for the dems comes out, its fapping


DC. I love your soul :) But while it really isnt my place to say he meant it or not. It was too damn late to be of any use to him or anyone else, Im having a hard time caring how he felt. I also dont see too many other people changing their minds about the "people" he wanted to apologise to.
He reached out to make amends at the end, granted. but i am very cynical..




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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 10:07:42 AM   
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You'll have to provide me citations on the multiple layers of vetting. I haven't seen it discussed anywhere.

Dunno if you trust the white house site, but here is a handy dandy little infographic that it explains what happens to refugees.
Before they come into the country.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states

some collarmeposts about the refugee vetting

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4864232
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4858132
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4858156
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4858080

An interesting look at the current sitation
http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

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RE: Sen. Bob Bennett's Dying Wish - 5/20/2016 10:40:59 AM   
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When a feature of character that we should all be taking for granted, namely bestowing dignity and respect on all human beings irrespective of race, creed and color, gets applauded as heroic, then we know the world is in dire need of a major moral realignment.

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