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Wayward5oul -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/30/2016 3:54:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
But now I have another pressing matter, how come my spellcheck is OK with backyard but not frontyard ? Also, myy spellcheck flags the word "spellcheck". What's up with that ?

T^T

My phone doesn't recognize 'autocorrect'. It always tries to autocorrect 'autocorrect' to 'autocrat'.





ThatDizzyChick -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/30/2016 4:30:58 PM)

I turned the auto-correct off on my phone because I spell way better than it does.




dcnovice -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/30/2016 4:36:30 PM)

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My phone doesn't recognize 'autocorrect'. It always tries to autocorrect 'autocorrect' to 'autocrat'.

Well, it can be quite autocratic.




Wayward5oul -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/30/2016 5:11:23 PM)

It always autocorrects 'know' to 'kink' and 'you' to 'toy'. I've started referring to it as my kinkphone.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/30/2016 5:12:24 PM)

You clearly installed the sexting dictionary.




DesideriScuri -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/30/2016 5:21:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
I'd make everyone the same color. People would probably still find something to discriminate about, but at least it won't be skin color.

There is a problem with that, skin colour is not some random thing put there in order to hate each other, it's an evolutionary adaptation to natural conditions, so you'd condem a number of people to lethal medical conditions, a darker skin protects from skin cancer in the tropics and lighter skin helps you fixing the D vitamine in the "artic" areas that leads to infertility and hearth conditions.

He's God. He can fix that at the same time. [8|]

I thought it was all "fine tuned" for life.

Says who?

creationists and inteligent design's supporters
it was irony


That's not even close to being true. According to creationists, God made Adam and Eve and from those two, everyone else spread. And, slightly more recently, everyone really grew out of the same stock as Noah and his family.






ThatDizzyChick -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/30/2016 5:29:30 PM)

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According to creationists, God made Adam and Eve and from those two, everyone else spread. And, slightly more recently, everyone really grew out of the same stock as Noah and his family.

That has nothing to do with his comment.




DesideriScuri -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/31/2016 12:23:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
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According to creationists, God made Adam and Eve and from those two, everyone else spread. And, slightly more recently, everyone really grew out of the same stock as Noah and his family.

That has nothing to do with his comment.


Sure it does.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/31/2016 10:23:32 AM)

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Sure it does.

Only if you completely misunderstand his remark.




Wayward5oul -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/31/2016 4:56:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

You clearly installed the sexting dictionary.

LOL no. I can't explain it. I have to correct it all the time. I rarely use neither kink nor toy in texts, so I can't explain why my phone favors them.

Funny, in this message my phone actually went to 'you' when I tried to type 'toy'.




Termyn8or -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (5/31/2016 5:37:17 PM)

"That's not even close to being true. According to creationists, God made Adam and Eve and from those two, everyone else spread. And, slightly more recently, everyone really grew out of the same stock as Noah and his family. "

Wait, someone went to the land of Nod.

Incidentally, I do not believe the single point origin of mankind. I am not saying it is not true or cannot be true I am saying that it has not been proven to my satisfaction. Anyone want to argue it I am right here. I am aware of the "adam" and "eve" chromosomes, but that doesn't prove it.

You want to argue single point origin, let's talk species of dogs first. They have a single point origin as "proven" by their ability to mate ? Bullshit.

Could be true but I consider it not proven.

Dr. Pierce had his own theory on it that makes enough sense. The more advanced protohumans stopped mating with the less advanced, apparently only attracted to the higher beings like themselves. And it just went on from there.

I think that more plausible than two humans were first, and all of their offspring spread out all over Pangea (remember Pangea ?) and when all the suddenly it broke up into the continents we have today, each area had humans. Gimme a fucking break.

Science like this is not an exact science. Even all the predictions with the AGW are not exact. Simple math and simple physics are exact. Maybe a few other things. But trying to figure out what happened in the distant past or what will happen in the distant future is not even science. You might use scientific knowledge to figure it out, but what we get out of that is someone's conclusion and that could be wrong.

Is margarine better or butter this week ? Maybe DDT will make a comeback, and cyclamates.

T^T




DesideriScuri -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (6/1/2016 1:38:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
"That's not even close to being true. According to creationists, God made Adam and Eve and from those two, everyone else spread. And, slightly more recently, everyone really grew out of the same stock as Noah and his family. "
Wait, someone went to the land of Nod.
Incidentally, I do not believe the single point origin of mankind. I am not saying it is not true or cannot be true I am saying that it has not been proven to my satisfaction. Anyone want to argue it I am right here. I am aware of the "adam" and "eve" chromosomes, but that doesn't prove it.
You want to argue single point origin, let's talk species of dogs first. They have a single point origin as "proven" by their ability to mate ? Bullshit.
Could be true but I consider it not proven.
Dr. Pierce had his own theory on it that makes enough sense. The more advanced protohumans stopped mating with the less advanced, apparently only attracted to the higher beings like themselves. And it just went on from there.
I think that more plausible than two humans were first, and all of their offspring spread out all over Pangea (remember Pangea ?) and when all the suddenly it broke up into the continents we have today, each area had humans. Gimme a fucking break.
Science like this is not an exact science. Even all the predictions with the AGW are not exact. Simple math and simple physics are exact. Maybe a few other things. But trying to figure out what happened in the distant past or what will happen in the distant future is not even science. You might use scientific knowledge to figure it out, but what we get out of that is someone's conclusion and that could be wrong.
Is margarine better or butter this week ? Maybe DDT will make a comeback, and cyclamates.
T^T


Margarine is never better than butter. Period. It never was, and it never will be.

My claim was that creationists claim everyone came a single point of origin.

Was DDT actually determined to have been more dangerous to the environment than malaria (and other bug borne illnesses DDT can control) is to humans?




WhoreMods -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (6/1/2016 2:26:50 PM)

Wasn't part of the issue with DDT that it's an accumulative toxin and it wasn't doing the people who were eating the stuff in food it had been used on any good?

ETA: I know the fuss about Rachel Carson's book is credited with starting the American ecological movement, but there were at least suggestions that it was effecting people as well. Impotence was mentioned, was it not?




DesideriScuri -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (6/1/2016 4:15:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
Wasn't part of the issue with DDT that it's an accumulative toxin and it wasn't doing the people who were eating the stuff in food it had been used on any good?
ETA: I know the fuss about Rachel Carson's book is credited with starting the American ecological movement, but there were at least suggestions that it was effecting people as well. Impotence was mentioned, was it not?


I did a quick scan, and it seems there are two camps in the DDT arena. One camp wants to use it because it doesn't really effect humans, while the other camp wants to not use it because it can wreak an awful lot of damage to an ecosystem. I'm not arguing for crop dusting the world with the stuff, but in areas where things like malaria are passed from skeeter bites, DDT might just have more beneficial results for humans than deleterious results for the ecology. The quick scan included headlines questioning if DDT should be used to get control on the Sika virus.




WhoreMods -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (6/2/2016 4:37:29 AM)

Thanks. Sika's probably going to be what's led to increased suggestions of reintroducing, true enough.
There are definitely suggestions that it can cause harm to people as well online, btw: try searching for DDT effects on humans. It doesn't look like that's been confirmed one way or the other, though.




Termyn8or -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (6/2/2016 4:50:27 AM)

I thought DDT was adversely affecting some species' of birds. Eagles or something. Could be wrong but...

T^T




Lucylastic -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (6/2/2016 5:16:12 AM)

DDT and Birds....https://web.stanford.edu/group/stanfordbirds/text/essays/DDT_and_Birds.html
Birds played a major role in creating awareness of pollution problems. Indeed, many people consider the modern environmental movement to have started with the publication in 1962 of Rachel Carson's classic Silent Spring, which described the results of the misuse of DDT and other pesticides. In the fable that began that volume, she wrote: "It was a spring without voices. On the mornings that had once throbbed with the dawn chorus of robins, catbirds, doves, jays, wrens, and scores of other bird voices there was now no sound; only silence lay over the fields and woods and marsh." Silent Spring was heavily attacked by the pesticide industry and by narrowly trained entomologists, but its scientific foundation has stood the test of time. Misuse of pesticides is now widely recognized to threaten not only bird communities but human communities as well.

The potentially lethal impact of DDT on birds was first noted in the late 1950s when spraying to control the beetles that carry Dutch elm disease led to a slaughter of robins in Michigan and elsewhere. Researchers discovered that earthworms were accumulating the persistent pesticide and that the robins eating them were being poisoned. Other birds fell victim, too. Gradually, thanks in no small part to Carson's book, gigantic "broadcast spray" programs were brought under control.

But DDT, its breakdown products, and the other chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides (and nonpesticide chlorinated hydrocarbons such as PCBs) posed a more insidious threat to birds. Because these poisons are persistent they tend to concentrate as they move through the feeding sequences in communities that ecologists call "food chains." For example, in most marine communities, the living weight (biomass) of fish-eating birds is less than that of the fishes they eat. However, because chlorinated hydrocarbons accumulate in fatty tissues, when a ton of contaminated fishes is turned into 200 pounds of seabirds, most of the DDT from the numerous fishes ends up in a relatively few birds. As a result, the birds have a higher level of contamination per pound than the fishes. If Peregrine Falcons feed on the seabirds, the concentration becomes higher still. With several concentrating steps in the food chain below the level of fishes (for instance, tiny aquatic plants crustacea small fishes), very slight environmental contamination can be turned into a heavy pesticide load in birds at the top of the food chain. In one Long Island estuary, concentrations of less than a tenth of a part per million (PPM) of DDT in aquatic plants and plankton resulted in concentrations of 3-25 PPM in gulls, terns, cormorants, mergansers, herons, and ospreys.

"Bioconcentration" of pesticides in birds high on food chains occurs not only because there is usually reduced biomass at each step in those chains, but also because predatory birds tend to live a long time. They may take in only a little DDT per day, but they keep most of what they get, and they live many days.

The insidious aspect of this phenomenon is that large concentrations of chlorinated hydrocarbons do not usually kill the bird outright. Rather, DDT and its relatives alter the bird's calcium metabolism in a way that results in thin eggshells. Instead of eggs, heavily DDT-infested Brown Pelicans and Bald Eagles tend to find omelets in their nests, since the eggshells are unable to support the weight of the incubating bird.

Shell-thinning resulted in the decimation of the Brown Pelican populations in much of North America and the extermination the Peregrine Falcon in the eastern United States and southeastern Canada. Shell-thinning caused lesser declines in populations of Golden and Bald Eagles and White Pelicans, among others. Similar declines took place in the British Isles. Fortunately, the cause of the breeding failures was identified in time, and the use of DDT was banned almost totally in the United States in 1972.

The reduced bird populations started to recover quickly thereafter, with species as different as ospreys and robins returning to the pre-DDT levels of breeding success in a decade or less. Furthermore, attempts to reestablish the peregrine in the eastern United States using captive-reared birds show considerable signs of success. Brown Pelican populations have now recovered to the extent that the species no longer warrants endangered status except in California. The banning of DDT has helped to create other pesticide problems, however. The newer organophosphate pesticides that to a degree have replaced organochlorines, such as parathion and TEPP (tetraethyl pyrophosphate), are less persistent so they do not accumulate in food chains. They are, nonetheless, highly toxic. Parathion applied to winter wheat, for instance, killed some 1,600 waterfowl, mostly Canada Geese, in the Texas panhandle in 1981.

Unfortunately, however, DDT has recently started to become more common in the environment again; its concentration in the tissues of starlings in Arizona and New Mexico, for example, has been increasing. While the source of that DDT is disputed, what is certain is that DDT has been shown to be present as a contaminant in the widely used toxin dicofol (a key ingredient in, among others, the pesticide Kelthane). Dicofol is a chemical formed by adding single oxygen atoms to DDT molecules. Unhappily, not all the DDT gets oxygenated, so that sometimes dicofol is contaminated with as much as 15 percent DDT

Overall, the 2.5 million pounds of dicofol used annually in pesticides contain about 250 thousand pounds of DDT. In addition, little is known about the breakdown products of dicofol itself, which may include DDE, a breakdown product of DDT identified as the major cause of reproductive failure in several bird species. Finally, DDT itself may still be in use illegally in some areas of the United States, and migratory birds such as the Black-crowned Night-Heron may be picking up DDT in their tropical wintering grounds (where DDT application is still permitted). Unhappily tropical countries are becoming dumping grounds for unsafe pesticides that are now banned in the United States. As the end of the century approaches, the once hopeful trend may be reversing, so that DDT and other pesticides continue to hang as a heavy shadow over many bird populations.




Termyn8or -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (6/2/2016 5:23:46 AM)

I smell Monsantos.

T^T




Lucylastic -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (6/2/2016 5:28:44 AM)

why do you think bees are dying ?
what about butterflies ?
crap on the food chain and you fuck up all over the place.




Termyn8or -> RE: What Would You Have Me Do ? (6/2/2016 5:57:38 AM)

Bottom line ?

Bees are dying because we are about to die.

Food sucks, poison all over the place.

I think that possibly life has started over a few times on this planet. And not just humans. Did your dog or cat survive an ice age living on top of a piece of ice ? Fuck no.

And we do destroy ourselves. Like those denying AGW, it is not so much they are stupid, thinking al the shit we do cools the Earth down, it is that they are saying we just don't give a fuck.

And I am about there. I am not putting solar panels on the roof and I am not buying a $100,000 electric car and there are a few other things I am not doing. Period.

I think every generation gets to that point. I simply do not care. I built what I built and that was to the betterment of some people. Now I am old, older than my years actually and it will be up to the youngers to run the planet soon. Did I leave them a few problems ? Yes. But did previous generations leave me a few problems ? Very much yes. I think my existence has caused less problems. Does that get me some kind of points ?

Nope.

So guess what.

T^T




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