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closetoyou -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/30/2016 8:03:32 AM)

just find me a good woman, or even a bad one, thank you.




WhoreMods -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/30/2016 9:01:52 AM)

The bad ones are a lot more fun, in my experience.




Awareness -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/30/2016 9:08:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
I thought we already had a dictator.


No, Lewinsky was a "dick taker."

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.




Real0ne -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/30/2016 9:23:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
OK, in this case I am not god, but a dictator of the country. The US Congress is cancelled because I developed some superior technology or some shit and they just went home.
As supreme dictator of the US, what would you have me do ?
What I would actually do comes later after people chime in with their plans. But my plans involve making peace, not pieces.
But how many of your wishes say "kill" ?
Tell you what, I got a pretty big list but it is not race or region based.
T^T

1. Rewrite the Constitution, clearly defining how it is to be interpreted. Have it much like it is now, but with some modifications.
2. Hold general elections to fill the new government, and hand over the reins.

We agree on alot of things Des, but not this.
DO NOT LET THIS BUNCH OF MOTHERFUCKERS TOUCH OUR CONSTITUTION, EVER.
I am serious. No.
If we had good representation and loyal servants to lead government I would say different. These money grubbing assholes cannot be allowed to fuck with the one document that sets us apart from most nations. No fucking way.
T^T


Remember, YOU are the dictator. YOU will rewrite the Constitution, not "this bunch of motherfuckers."

There will always be challenges to how the words in the Constitution are interpreted. Always. And, that's why we have so many fucking issues with government creeping into almost every aspect of our lives. Specifying the interpretation would be the most important (and, perhaps, only) addition I'd want, unless you were to incorporate the currently active Amendments into the Constitution (no sense in putting in prohibition just to also take it out) wording itself.




agreed, this country was taken over by coup shortly after it was created. As time goes on and the strict letter of the meanings fade they synthesize euphemisms essentially creating a state within a state. Hence the use of words like fire arms and guns instead of the constitutional words 'arms', they never take away or forbid you to carry arms, just guns and fire arms. Euphemisms. Its how you undermine a nation without ever taking a shot then convince the people the country is a democrcy when its not, its a parliamentary democracy precisely like england. "They" get to vote, not you, you get to vote on your next overlord and that is where your democracy 'virtually' ends.

There is nothing wrong with the constitution, and to properly interpet is we have to look back beyond the magna charta which incidentally is quoted in several supreme court cases.

The problem is the coup, and veil of corruption that over rules the legilative and judicial system. Like before the revolution they use there superior intelligence and resources to fool the people, and carlin has it right, they own you, the only problem is that most people fall into the category of slaves who think they are free, they arent they are owned.

The problem is enforce what we have and root out the corruption, unfortunately they have long since gave 'themselves immunity' for virtually any crime they can commit in office that in 1800 they would have hung from a short rope.

Think about fully impowered jury, the curse of a corrupt system, write your reps and demand that they make statutes to inform the jury of not only their right but their DUTY not to convict on ANY law or charge if they feel the law is either unfair or being improperly applied. Courts hide that, to retain the crookocracy's death grip over the people and that is why legislation is failing in a couple states.

When they get enough acuittals and not guilty's because people reject the unfair laws they will have no choice but to change or start up gulags.




tj444 -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/30/2016 10:37:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I can never imagine US becoming a dictatorship. There will be civil war. Citizens bear arms, will form their own army, and will fight against this dictatorship with arms.


Do you realize that the citizens with their puny arms are no match for tanks, drones, rocket launchers, grenades, etc etc and all of the war machine the govt/dictator can throw at them?




Dvr22999874 -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/30/2016 10:43:15 PM)

Greta, read 'Joe Steel' by Harry Turtledove. It is fiction but it shows how one really evil bastard could make it non-fiction. Not one of his best works and more than a little over the top, but it has me wondering if it could possibly happen *smile*.




Termyn8or -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/31/2016 4:13:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I can never imagine US becoming a dictatorship. There will be civil war. Citizens bear arms, will form their own army, and will fight against this dictatorship with arms.


Do you realize that the citizens with their puny arms are no match for tanks, drones, rocket launchers, grenades, etc etc and all of the war machine the govt/dictator can throw at them?


Do you realize that even they are no match for 300 million guns ? When the time is right, we make it impossible for them to enforce their laws, collect taxes or anything. We'll make so they need a fucking rocket launcher to foreclose on a house. Every loud music complaint gets them two dead cops picked off from second story windows. City inspectors are out of business.

They already pay cops almost a hundred grand a year and give them a serious benefit package. Know why ? Because they can die. Right now there are not enough people willing to make that likely but that is going to change.

You see, this government is never going to back down, it is going to take more and more and fuck over more people. Eventually it gets to the point the people will not take anymore and the shooting starts.

How many cops are there in Cleveland ? How many days would it take to kill like three quarters of them ? And how do they get more ? Would you take a job where you have a 75 % chance of getting killed ? You would have to be as stupid as people who join the military. And the bottom line is most people who join the military here do it because they have no future. And they might not be stupid when they join, they just don't know how bad they're going to be fucked over, for the oil companies. Not protecting the country at all, it is proven that they do not protect the country by the fact that every attack on this country has been successful, except the ones the FBI entrapped stupid kids into like (attempt) blowing up a bridge somewhere. Stupid enough to risk their lives to cause a fucking traffic jam. I wish the FBI would target me for some shit like that because I would play them like a fucking violin. But I think they know that by now. They don't want me anymore :-( I go drive half drunk, beer between my legs, joint in my pocket, no license or insurance and they don't even take me to jail.

I don't say that to brag, I say that as evidence that it is all a money game. They know they ain't getting any more from me.

Know one thing I would do ? No more fines. Break the law go to jail. Even a speeding ticket, a day in jail. But then this stupid five over shit would be gone. Minor violations like that just make your insurance company more money. But really, this applies to corporate entities as well. No more fines, produce a body, the one who made the decision to do the illegal thing. I they don't cough up anyone put the whole board of directors in jail. Know why ? They NEVER pay the fine, YOU pay the fines. All of the money comes from the customer and when you fine them it costs the employees or shareholders, NEVER the ones who really profit from the crimes.

And big companies have teams of lawyers and accountants who figure out how far they can go breaking the law until is actually costs money. In other words "Can we make enough on this before we get busted to make it worth it ?". Think I am kidding ? If so I dunno what to say because I consider it common knowledge.

But if you put the possibility of jail into it they might act better. Maybe.

None of this shit is going to happen but it is fun to play with the idea.

T^T




lovmuffin -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/31/2016 4:36:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Apologise.


No way, we already have a president running around all over the world doing just that.

Really? Who's he apologised to besides the Japanese, then?



http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2009/06/barack-obamas-top-10-apologies-how-the-president-has-humiliated-a-superpower




WhoreMods -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/31/2016 4:43:37 AM)

Nothing significant, then.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/31/2016 10:27:09 AM)

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Do you realize that the citizens with their puny arms are no match for tanks, drones, rocket launchers, grenades, etc etc and all of the war machine the govt/dictator can throw at them?

I guess nobody told the Taliban that, eh?




WhoreMods -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/31/2016 10:28:36 AM)

Or those revolutionaries who had a chip on their shoulders about paying tea tax, come to that...




Lucylastic -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/31/2016 10:38:18 AM)

Termy, Id have you do something about this.
EXCLUSIVE: Catholic Church spent $2M on major N.Y. lobbying firms to block child-sex law reform

Timothy Cardinal Dolan heads the state's Catholic Conference, which in recent years hired major lobby firms to block legislation designed to help child abuse victims seek justice.

ALBANY — Not leaving it to divine chance, the state Catholic Conference has turned in recent years to some of Albany’s most well-connected and influential lobby firms to help block a bill that would make it easier for child sex abuse victims to seek justice.

The Catholic Conference, headed by Timothy Cardinal Dolan, has used Wilson Elser Moskowitz Edelman & Dicker, Patricia Lynch & Associates, Hank Sheinkopf, and Mark Behan Communications to lobby against the Child Victims Act as well as for or against other measures.

All told, the conference spent more than $2.1 million on lobbying from 2007 through the end of 2015, state records show. That does not include the conference’s own internal lobbying team.

Filings show the lobbyists were retained, in part, to work on issues associated with “statute of limitations” and “timelines for commencing certain civil actions related to sex offenses.” Other issues included parochial school funding and investment tax credits.

Cardinal Dolan ripped for stalling to talk child sex abuse
“They are willing to spend limitless money in order to basically keep bad guys from being accountable for their actions,” said Melanie Blow, chief operations officer of the Stop Abuse Campaign. “I think they’re doing it because they don’t want to have to pay out settlements.”


Melanie Blow, chief operations officer of the Stop Abuse Campaign, says the Catholic Conference is paying lobby firms because they want to avoid settlements for lawsuits.
Added Kathryn Robb, an advocate and survivor who says she was abused by her brother as a 9-year-old: “If they need to spend that much money on lobbying, clearly, then, they have some pretty big secrets to hide.”

While a far cry from the millions in lobbying top special interests spend in Albany each year, advocates for child sex abuse survivors say the $2.1 million spent likely represents a worthwhile investment to the Catholic Conference if it can continue to block legislation that would eliminate the statute of limitations on child sex abuse civil cases and open a one-year window to bring lawsuits for victims who can no longer sue under current law.

The Catholic Conference has argued that opening a one-year window to revive old cases could ultimately bankrupt the Church.

The firms the Catholic Conference chose is also telling.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/catholic-church-hired-lobby-firms-block-n-y-kid-rape-laws-article-1.2655010




AtUrCervix -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/31/2016 3:59:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

OK, in this case I am not god, but a dictator of the country. The US Congress is cancelled because I developed some superior technology or some shit and they just went home.

As supreme dictator of the US, what would you have me do ?

What I would actually do comes later after people chime in with their plans. But my plans involve making peace, not pieces.

But how many of your wishes say "kill" ?

Tell you what, I got a pretty big list but it is not race or region based.

T^T


Bring me Pamela Anderson.

(First legislative act).




lovmuffin -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/31/2016 4:03:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Nothing significant, then.


You asked. Whether or not those apologies are significant is a matter of opinion. Maybe Obama running around the world humiliating himself apologizing and bowing is really kewl. Ya need a link for the bowing thing ??




tj444 -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/31/2016 6:19:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I can never imagine US becoming a dictatorship. There will be civil war. Citizens bear arms, will form their own army, and will fight against this dictatorship with arms.


Do you realize that the citizens with their puny arms are no match for tanks, drones, rocket launchers, grenades, etc etc and all of the war machine the govt/dictator can throw at them?


Do you realize that even they are no match for 300 million guns ? When the time is right, we make it impossible for them to enforce their laws, collect taxes or anything. We'll make so they need a fucking rocket launcher to foreclose on a house. Every loud music complaint gets them two dead cops picked off from second story windows. City inspectors are out of business.

They already pay cops almost a hundred grand a year and give them a serious benefit package. Know why ? Because they can die. Right now there are not enough people willing to make that likely but that is going to change.

You see, this government is never going to back down, it is going to take more and more and fuck over more people. Eventually it gets to the point the people will not take anymore and the shooting starts.

How many cops are there in Cleveland ? How many days would it take to kill like three quarters of them ? And how do they get more ? Would you take a job where you have a 75 % chance of getting killed ? You would have to be as stupid as people who join the military. And the bottom line is most people who join the military here do it because they have no future. And they might not be stupid when they join, they just don't know how bad they're going to be fucked over, for the oil companies. Not protecting the country at all, it is proven that they do not protect the country by the fact that every attack on this country has been successful, except the ones the FBI entrapped stupid kids into like (attempt) blowing up a bridge somewhere. Stupid enough to risk their lives to cause a fucking traffic jam. I wish the FBI would target me for some shit like that because I would play them like a fucking violin. But I think they know that by now. They don't want me anymore :-( I go drive half drunk, beer between my legs, joint in my pocket, no license or insurance and they don't even take me to jail.

I don't say that to brag, I say that as evidence that it is all a money game. They know they ain't getting any more from me.

Know one thing I would do ? No more fines. Break the law go to jail. Even a speeding ticket, a day in jail. But then this stupid five over shit would be gone. Minor violations like that just make your insurance company more money. But really, this applies to corporate entities as well. No more fines, produce a body, the one who made the decision to do the illegal thing. I they don't cough up anyone put the whole board of directors in jail. Know why ? They NEVER pay the fine, YOU pay the fines. All of the money comes from the customer and when you fine them it costs the employees or shareholders, NEVER the ones who really profit from the crimes.

And big companies have teams of lawyers and accountants who figure out how far they can go breaking the law until is actually costs money. In other words "Can we make enough on this before we get busted to make it worth it ?". Think I am kidding ? If so I dunno what to say because I consider it common knowledge.

But if you put the possibility of jail into it they might act better. Maybe.

None of this shit is going to happen but it is fun to play with the idea.

T^T


Of course none of this shite is gonna happen cuz their wont be any fucking bloody revolution (yes the US needs that but it aint gonna happen), no one in this country is committed to that.. so cops know they can die on the job, but civilians arent doing that job, they arent gonna risk their lives for anything, no matter how bad things get in this country.. Even if a few did, all it would take would be the military or drones killing a few of them to make the rest run & hide.. You seriously think 300 million are gonna fight, look what kind of a wash out OWS was, it fizzled out even quicker than I thought it would.. what a joke that was.. You go ahead and stand with yer gun on the front line and fight buddy, but dont turn around cuz you will see all those others that said they would stand behind ya running for the hills trying to save their own arse..




Termyn8or -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (5/31/2016 6:41:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Termy, Id have you do something about this.
EXCLUSIVE: Catholic Church spent $2M on major N.Y. lobbying firms to block child-sex law reform

Timothy Cardinal Dolan heads the state's Catholic Conference, which in recent years hired major lobby firms to block legislation designed to help child abuse victims seek justice.

ALBANY — Not leaving it to divine chance, the state Catholic Conference has turned in recent years to some of Albany’s most well-connected and influential lobby firms to help block a bill that would make it easier for child sex abuse victims to seek justice.

The Catholic Conference, headed by Timothy Cardinal Dolan, has used Wilson Elser Moskowitz Edelman & Dicker, Patricia Lynch & Associates, Hank Sheinkopf, and Mark Behan Communications to lobby against the Child Victims Act as well as for or against other measures.

All told, the conference spent more than $2.1 million on lobbying from 2007 through the end of 2015, state records show. That does not include the conference’s own internal lobbying team.

Filings show the lobbyists were retained, in part, to work on issues associated with “statute of limitations” and “timelines for commencing certain civil actions related to sex offenses.” Other issues included parochial school funding and investment tax credits.

Cardinal Dolan ripped for stalling to talk child sex abuse
“They are willing to spend limitless money in order to basically keep bad guys from being accountable for their actions,” said Melanie Blow, chief operations officer of the Stop Abuse Campaign. “I think they’re doing it because they don’t want to have to pay out settlements.”


Melanie Blow, chief operations officer of the Stop Abuse Campaign, says the Catholic Conference is paying lobby firms because they want to avoid settlements for lawsuits.
Added Kathryn Robb, an advocate and survivor who says she was abused by her brother as a 9-year-old: “If they need to spend that much money on lobbying, clearly, then, they have some pretty big secrets to hide.”

While a far cry from the millions in lobbying top special interests spend in Albany each year, advocates for child sex abuse survivors say the $2.1 million spent likely represents a worthwhile investment to the Catholic Conference if it can continue to block legislation that would eliminate the statute of limitations on child sex abuse civil cases and open a one-year window to bring lawsuits for victims who can no longer sue under current law.

The Catholic Conference has argued that opening a one-year window to revive old cases could ultimately bankrupt the Church.

The firms the Catholic Conference chose is also telling.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/catholic-church-hired-lobby-firms-block-n-y-kid-rape-laws-article-1.2655010


Yeah, there's religion, true fucking faith :

"The Catholic Conference has argued that opening a one-year window to revive old cases could ultimately bankrupt the Church."

They should be burnt at the stake. I could maybe handle that. Any adult having any sexual contact with prepubescent is the death penalty. There is no hush money, offering hush money is the death penalty if it is a capital crime, which it would be.

I know there are two similar threads here, this is the one where I am dictator right ? You would have more personal freedom than ever, but there are laws. Ya gotta have some laws. Shit just doesn't work without laws.

And I would have public executions. And real investigations, not like they do these days. And cops would not get a paid vacation for shooting people. Zero lobby money, we execute you for that just like in China. Pretty fucking bad when we aren't up to the standards of China.

Want more ? Equalization of the media, requiring talk time for ordinary Citizens. And banks can never ever charge the customer for an overdraft for more than the amount of the overdraft. I have seen people have to pay $400 for a fucking $4 overdraft, which they could have simply refused to remit. But they make more money this way.

And no more fake money, derivatives and all that shit. I'll tax that shit right out of business. But go ahead and burn all the coal you need, fuck you Obama with the hardon for the coal industry. Bunch of shit, you don''t give a fuck about the environment any more than I do. Just trying to look good.

And cancel every one of those goddamn free trade deals, period. Your incoming shit is taxed, and taxed HARD. Hard to the point you might consider putting your plant here to build the shit. YOu want access to MY market, you fucking pay for it.

I really could go on but then we get TLDR. But under my rule you can do whatever you want unless it hurts someone else. Companies are a different story. We would still have health regulations for restaurants, we would have extremely heavy regulation on banks and public utilities and a few others. Anything above a certain scale of operations and anything that can even remotely be called a monopoly.

T^T




WhoreMods -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (6/1/2016 5:02:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Nothing significant, then.


You asked. Whether or not those apologies are significant is a matter of opinion. Maybe Obama running around the world humiliating himself apologizing and bowing is really kewl. Ya need a link for the bowing thing ??

No, but it would be interesting to know why Obama bowing and scraping is more of an issue than Bush doing the same.




Musicmystery -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (6/1/2016 7:23:41 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

The US Congress is cancelled because . . . they just went home.

what would you have me do ?



Thank you. You've done enough.




tweakabelle -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (6/1/2016 7:36:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Termy, Id have you do something about this.
EXCLUSIVE: Catholic Church spent $2M on major N.Y. lobbying firms to block child-sex law reform

Timothy Cardinal Dolan heads the state's Catholic Conference, which in recent years hired major lobby firms to block legislation designed to help child abuse victims seek justice.

ALBANY — Not leaving it to divine chance, the state Catholic Conference has turned in recent years to some of Albany’s most well-connected and influential lobby firms to help block a bill that would make it easier for child sex abuse victims to seek justice.

The Catholic Conference, headed by Timothy Cardinal Dolan, has used Wilson Elser Moskowitz Edelman & Dicker, Patricia Lynch & Associates, Hank Sheinkopf, and Mark Behan Communications to lobby against the Child Victims Act as well as for or against other measures.

All told, the conference spent more than $2.1 million on lobbying from 2007 through the end of 2015, state records show. That does not include the conference’s own internal lobbying team.

Filings show the lobbyists were retained, in part, to work on issues associated with “statute of limitations” and “timelines for commencing certain civil actions related to sex offenses.” Other issues included parochial school funding and investment tax credits.

Cardinal Dolan ripped for stalling to talk child sex abuse
“They are willing to spend limitless money in order to basically keep bad guys from being accountable for their actions,” said Melanie Blow, chief operations officer of the Stop Abuse Campaign. “I think they’re doing it because they don’t want to have to pay out settlements.”


Melanie Blow, chief operations officer of the Stop Abuse Campaign, says the Catholic Conference is paying lobby firms because they want to avoid settlements for lawsuits.
Added Kathryn Robb, an advocate and survivor who says she was abused by her brother as a 9-year-old: “If they need to spend that much money on lobbying, clearly, then, they have some pretty big secrets to hide.”

While a far cry from the millions in lobbying top special interests spend in Albany each year, advocates for child sex abuse survivors say the $2.1 million spent likely represents a worthwhile investment to the Catholic Conference if it can continue to block legislation that would eliminate the statute of limitations on child sex abuse civil cases and open a one-year window to bring lawsuits for victims who can no longer sue under current law.

The Catholic Conference has argued that opening a one-year window to revive old cases could ultimately bankrupt the Church.

The firms the Catholic Conference chose is also telling.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/catholic-church-hired-lobby-firms-block-n-y-kid-rape-laws-article-1.2655010

Despicable. Utterly despicable. Actions such as this verge on being pure evil.

And these creeps have the gall to lecture the rest of us on morality and ethics ......




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: What Would You Have Me do II (6/1/2016 8:57:18 AM)

quote:

Or those revolutionaries who had a chip on their shoulders about paying tea tax, come to that...

Bad analogy actually, seeing as the British never really had any chance to win the Revolutionary War.




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