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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/9/2016 3:55:05 PM   
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How much?

Already answered.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/9/2016 5:37:13 PM   
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I am greatly disappointed in you So2. So, you would take advantage of a young female, with no options of a roof over her head or food on the table? You'd rather somebody would chose to f^ck you rather than starve?

Is that the arrangement that you want?

Back 25 years ago, I was in that position Never had to, because I always made my own money,

What if I didn't

It is with my great regret that this thread exists.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/10/2016 5:41:47 AM   
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Clearly the only option she has is tending bar because that is what she is doing.

You don't know that, not with anybody holding down a job. People have all kinds of reasons for doing what they do.
This young lady takes classes during the day and needs to work evening and weekends or more flexible hours.

Furthermore, why would you or anybody else look down upon her for tending bar? Do you always look down upon servers in F&B industries, and what gives you the right to prejudge service workers?

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Some guys would phoque a trash can if someone would hold the lid for them.

This is not about who or what some guys would screw. Trash cans don't get propositioned to move in rent-free.

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Women outnumber men so we are not talking about a target rich environment.

The number of women willing to consider selling themselves for sex is significantly lower than the number of men willing to pay for sex.
Or to put it another way, the number of women willing to accept NSA sex from any man who offers, much less jump at the chance to do so, is practically nill.

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How does one not profit from a sales transaction in which your inventory cost nothing and is never depleated?

There is still overhead in the form of cost of upkeep in physical appearances, and G&A costs in the form of out-of-pocket expenditures.
Even a low-maintenance cavewoman needs to be kept in furs.

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How much do you think this barmaids ass is worth?

You might as well be asking for an actuarial table.

As an informal price comparison, figure out how much you would have to pay in your area to hire a live-in maid, a nanny (live-in babysitter), a live-in companion for the elderly and/or infirm, any kind of live-in assistant, etc. Nobody unrelated to you, or without some other sort of vested interest in an pre-established relationship, is going to perform these duties just for bartered rent without receiving wages.

Then tack on the inestimable cost of sexual fidelity--which is ordinarily part & parcel with a live-in sex provider arrangement. There is no pricetag on that invaluable contingency.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/10/2016 7:16:54 AM   
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Clearly the only option she has is tending bar because that is what she is doing.


Having been a student and tended bar then, it wasn't the only option I had, but it was a good option as it was well paid, and at a time where people party, so it didn't interfere with my classes at all, I did other jobs too but it was a steady juggling because your schedule changes each semester, however no classes were ever at night or on weekends. Perfect job for students.

Some of the places were actually pretty damned nice and expensive, place I couldn't have afforded to go, because you worked in one of the "IN places" you also got invited to a lot of pretty cool things, like vernisages and all that, record companies flung concert tickets at us, just to make sure that if they came in one of the musicians, we went out of our way to provide superb service and call them by name in front of the artists, another side kick was, if you had a rare day off, you could go to any of the other very nice bars and clubs, no waiting in line, no membership needed, no entrance fee, you were waved through and usually got free drinks. Walking through town and meeting people, we were treated very nice, with hello everywhere, some of the posh clothes shops offered us massive discounts provided we'd tell people where we got the clothes from.
To give you an idea, I earned 10% of the drinks I sold and got to keep my tips, the cheapest drink was (and that was in the 90's) around $10 for a beer or a soft drink, I usually made about 200 to 300 just in commission, and at least that in tips but usually more, getting a tip of 50 or 100 wasn't unusual, especially not if they ordered champagne or cocktails.
On Sundays it was the lounge from where you could watch the ice hockey, only people with VIP cards could sit and eat and drink there, prices were accordingly... Same thing, actually more money because there was also food served... You do the math, I worked Friday and Saturday, plus Sundays during the hockey season. As a student, I made a hell lot more money than your average guy working 9 to 5 made the whole week.
Yeah, it was such a horrible life for a student... I really would have traded that to sleep with a repulsive old geezer just to have a roof over my head? Not in this world... In fact I think I would have rather scrubbed toilets than sleep with a guy I'm not attracted to, and moving in with him and being his sexual property, FFS, not in this universe!


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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/11/2016 8:09:48 AM   
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Why do you think rent is "miserly"?

Because it is when it comes to sex.

And this is an example of how you can't fucking think to save your life.

It reminds me of an old joke or parable if you will.

A guy asks a woman if she'll have sex with him for a million dollars. She thinks about it and then says "yes". He then asks her if she'll have sex with him for five dollars. She reacts with outrage exclaiming, "What kind of woman do you think I am!"

He says, "Well we've already established that - now we're just negotiating a price."

Same with you - apparently transactional sex is fine with you, provided the price is sufficiently high. That tells us everything we need to know about what kind of a woman you are - so save your faux fucking outrage, you hypocritical basket case.


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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/11/2016 8:12:04 AM   
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Dude, if the standard rate for a "short time", is $50 per 15 minutes. Unlimited sex for rent, should cost ALOT more!

Yeah, that's generally called 'marriage' and it usually results in the loss of half your stuff (if you're a guy).


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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/11/2016 9:07:11 AM   
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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/11/2016 10:03:29 AM   
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Married guys get unlimited sex? That's not quite the way I've heard it told


Funny, I didn't turn into an inflatable sex toy that's always available when I got married, nor did hubby turn into a vibrator... Like in any healthy relationship, sex happens when both of us are in the mood, which is frequent, but unlimited? Reality check maybe?

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/11/2016 10:19:25 AM   
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apparently transactional sex is fine with you, provided the price is sufficiently high.

Of course it is, why wouldn't it be?
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so save your faux fucking outrage, you hypocritical basket case.

What faux fucking outrage? If you could follow a conversation you would see that the price being too low has been my issue all along.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 3:56:30 AM   
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Clearly the only option she has is tending bar because that is what she is doing.

You don't know that,

Yes we do know that because that has been stated as part of the op.



not with anybody holding down a job. People have all kinds of reasons for doing what they do.


We do what we do because that is what we do.

This young lady takes classes during the day and needs to work evening and weekends or more flexible hours.

Tht is exactly my point.

Furthermore, why would you or anybody else look down upon her for tending bar?

You are the only one making that reference.


Do you always look down upon servers in F&B industries, and what gives you the right to prejudge service workers?

That would be a question you should address to yourself since you and not I made the reference to looking down on service workers.


Some guys would phoque a trash can if someone would hold the lid for them.

This is not about who or what some guys would screw.

Yes it is.


Trash cans don't get propositioned to move in rent-free.


Not quite rent free...he does expect something in return.


Women outnumber men so we are not talking about a target rich environment.

The number of women willing to consider selling themselves for sex is significantly lower than the number of men willing to pay for sex.

This would be an opinion unsubstantiated by facts.


Or to put it another way, the number of women willing to accept NSA sex from any man who offers, much less jump at the chance to do so, is practically nill.


We are not discussing nsa sex are we? We are discussing sex in return for value offered.


How does one not profit from a sales transaction in which your inventory cost nothing and is never depleated?

There is still overhead in the form of cost of upkeep in physical appearances, and G&A costs in the form of out-of-pocket expenditures.



So what????A contract worker is responsible for the maintainance of their tools.


Even a low-maintenance cavewoman needs to be kept in furs.

My opinion is that women look thier best when wearing a smile.


How much do you think this barmaids ass is worth?

You might as well be asking for an actuarial table.

As an informal price comparison, figure out how much you would have to pay in your area to hire a live-in maid, a nanny (live-in babysitter), a live-in companion for the elderly and/or infirm, any kind of live-in assistant, etc. Nobody unrelated to you, or without some other sort of vested interest in an pre-established relationship, is going to perform these duties just for bartered rent without receiving wages.


Since the op seems only interested in pussy the child care etc would seem irrelevant.

Then tack on the inestimable cost of sexual fidelity--which is ordinarily part & parcel with a live-in sex provider arrangement. There is no pricetag on that invaluable contingency.

I don't remember the op requiring sexual fidelity as a constitutant part of this arrangement. Were I the op and offering such an arrangement I might also encourage her to consult the hawt redhead with the "itty bitties" that works the dayshift.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 4:06:30 AM   
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Clearly the only option she has is tending bar because that is what she is doing.


Having been a student and tended bar then, it wasn't the only option I had, but it was a good option as it was well paid, and at a time where people party, so it didn't interfere with my classes at all, I did other jobs too but it was a steady juggling because your schedule changes each semester, however no classes were ever at night or on weekends. Perfect job for students.

Sounds like best option to me.

Some of the places were actually pretty damned nice and expensive, place I couldn't have afforded to go, because you worked in one of the "IN places" you also got invited to a lot of pretty cool things, like vernisages and all that, record companies flung concert tickets at us, just to make sure that if they came in one of the musicians, we went out of our way to provide superb service and call them by name in front of the artists, another side kick was, if you had a rare day off, you could go to any of the other very nice bars and clubs, no waiting in line, no membership needed, no entrance fee, you were waved through and usually got free drinks. Walking through town and meeting people, we were treated very nice, with hello everywhere, some of the posh clothes shops offered us massive discounts provided we'd tell people where we got the clothes from.
To give you an idea, I earned 10% of the drinks I sold and got to keep my tips, the cheapest drink was (and that was in the 90's) around $10 for a beer or a soft drink, I usually made about 200 to 300 just in commission, and at least that in tips but usually more, getting a tip of 50 or 100 wasn't unusual, especially not if they ordered champagne or cocktails.
On Sundays it was the lounge from where you could watch the ice hockey, only people with VIP cards could sit and eat and drink there, prices were accordingly... Same thing, actually more money because there was also food served... You do the math, I worked Friday and Saturday, plus Sundays during the hockey season. As a student, I made a hell lot more money than your average guy working 9 to 5 made the whole week.
Yeah, it was such a horrible life for a student... I really would have traded that to sleep with a repulsive old geezer just to have a roof over my head? Not in this world...

If in one of those clubs you had met a repulsive old geezer named mick jager would you have been tempted?



In fact I think I would have rather scrubbed toilets than sleep with a guy I'm not attracted to, and moving in with him and being his sexual property, FFS, not in this universe!

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 8:34:50 AM   
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Married guys get unlimited sex? That's not quite the way I've heard it told
It's the only contractual game which promises that ideal - however given the number of betas who are good only as providers, the lack of sex in marriage for most men is unsurprising.

What's interesting is how strongly so many women seem to believe that a woman should be 'compensated' for the time she spent in a marriage. That should clearly highlight many women's transactional approach to sex.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 8:36:26 AM   
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Married guys get unlimited sex? That's not quite the way I've heard it told


Funny, I didn't turn into an inflatable sex toy that's always available when I got married, nor did hubby turn into a vibrator... Like in any healthy relationship, sex happens when both of us are in the mood, which is frequent, but unlimited? Reality check maybe?
You really are appallingly stupid - it seems very obvious that some men are desperate enough to marry anything with a pulse.


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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 8:38:31 AM   
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What faux fucking outrage? If you could follow a conversation you would see that the price being too low has been my issue all along.
Price negotiation between two individuals is none of your fucking business, nor do you have the requisite knowledge to determine the market value of the two individuals in question. You're just basing your viewpoint on the idea that all women are worth intrinsically more than rent - a foolish assumption which the broken harpies in this space highlight only too well.




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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 12:22:55 PM   
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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 1:14:58 PM   
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What faux fucking outrage? If you could follow a conversation you would see that the price being too low has been my issue all along.
Price negotiation between two individuals is none of your fucking business, nor do you have the requisite knowledge to determine the market value of the two individuals in question. You're just basing your viewpoint on the idea that all women are worth intrinsically more than rent - a foolish assumption which the broken harpies in this space highlight only too well.





Listen stupid. Shut the fuck up. We don't talk about money.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 1:18:10 PM   
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Married guys get unlimited sex? That's not quite the way I've heard it told


Funny, I didn't turn into an inflatable sex toy that's always available when I got married, nor did hubby turn into a vibrator... Like in any healthy relationship, sex happens when both of us are in the mood, which is frequent, but unlimited? Reality check maybe?
You really are appallingly stupid - it seems very obvious that some men are desperate enough to marry anything with a pulse.




Apparently some women are quite as desperate, but you got to keep her happy for a while your green card is gone. But I am glad if you are getting some, even a retard like you should have some sex.

Btw your whinging and hate and fear of women doesn't make you look very dominant, more like the little tosser you are.

Keep on amusing me, watching a desperate dude convince people that the world is flat is kinda funny.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 1:25:45 PM   
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Heck no, Jagger is older than my parents and I always found him repulsive.

In my early 20's I did date older, but sort of 10 to 20 years, simply because the guys of my age were a bit like the unaware dude, not real men and just little boys, though he's actually amusing because he's so pathetic and seems to believe that a sad little loser like him can insult women who wouldn't fuck him with their worst enemy's strapon. I honestly never wanted a sugar daddy, always preferred to make my own money, still do. Always liked my independence, I did date a few guys who were quite wealthy but was super careful to be financially independent.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 1:59:10 PM   
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Price negotiation between two individuals is none of your fucking business, nor do you have the requisite knowledge to determine the market value of the two individuals in question. You're just basing your viewpoint on the idea that all women are worth intrinsically more than rent - a foolish assumption which the broken harpies in this space highlight only too well.


Let me ask the exact same question. Why is some stranger's hypothetical sugar market value such a sticking point here? This would be a different thread if some girl were here asking why she wasn't getting the offers she wanted. But given that the OP hasn't been here in a while, this seems like an odd point to keep drumming at.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/12/2016 3:42:30 PM   
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What faux fucking outrage? If you could follow a conversation you would see that the price being too low has been my issue all along.
Price negotiation between two individuals is none of your fucking business, nor do you have the requisite knowledge to determine the market value of the two individuals in question. You're just basing your viewpoint on the idea that all women are worth intrinsically more than rent - a foolish assumption which the broken harpies in this space highlight only too well.



For those men who are so inadequate and impaired that they can't get sex any other way than by paying for it, and whose numbers are legion, I'd say the worth of those women willing to fuck for money is, to those men, priceless.


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