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understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 9:19:08 AM   
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I dont understand this transgendery thing.

Boy is boy which is xy.
Girl is girl which is yy.

Now come complacations.

Some rare boy have xxy but are boy because of xx.
Even more rare are x0 which are girls by all accaunts.
More and more rare are xxx, xxxx, and xxxxx "super women" but still are girls just as xyy are "super men" but still are boys.

Their are eunichs which are boys without equipmant but still boys.

Same as girls (xy) dresed as boys, but still girls and boys (xy) dresed as girls but still boys.

What is so dificult about this simple thing?

If boy want to dress like girl boy is still boy.
If girl want to dress like boy is still girl.

Sereously what is the problem here?
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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 9:24:35 AM   
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Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk0-fcSx0wM

Now do you understand?

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 9:53:40 AM   
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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 9:55:40 AM   
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Just put the moron on hide and be done with him already.

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 11:57:45 AM   
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"Is Transgenderism a Mental Disorder or a Right?"

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In a culture where freedom has been redefined as a right to choose anything and liberty has degenerated into license, the newspeak of the age has declared the instrumental use of the body of another to be sexual freedom. ..

Removal of genitals and attachment of artificially constructed ones which are absolutely incapable of ovulation or conception, does not change the structure of reality. The removal constitutes mutilation and the construction of artificial organs with no reproductive function does not alter the gender or sex of the person. Medical science confirms that our identity as male or female affects even our brains. In addition, even the physical appearance must be sustained by massive doses of synthetic hormones.

Pope Emeritus Benedict was absolutely correct when he said, - the profound falsehood of this theory and of the anthropological revolution contained within it is obvious. - Gender is a gift. It is also a given...

In an article in the Wall Street Journal published on June 12, 2014, Dr. Paul R. McHugh, wrote about a medical fact, sex change or what is now routinely called "sexual reassignment surgery" is what he called "biologically impossible". He also referred to what is routinely called "transgenderism" as a mental disorder.

Dr McHugh is a distinguished service professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins and served as their chief psychiatrist for almost three decades. He further opined that those who promote sex change operations are not helping but hurting people with this disorder...

One of the few members of the secular Press with the courage to report on this now politically incorrect topic was Michael W. Chapman. In an article in CNS News entitled Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is 'Mental Disorder;' Sex Change 'Biologically Impossible' Chapman wrote:

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"Dr. McHugh, the author of six books and at least 125 peer-reviewed medical articles, made his remarks in a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, where he explained that transgender surgery is not the solution for people who suffer a "disorder of 'assumption'" - the notion that their maleness or femaleness is different than what nature assigned to them biologically.

"He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London's Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% "spontaneously lost those feelings."

"While the Obama administration, Hollywood, and major media such as Time magazine promote transgenderism as normal, said Dr. McHugh, these "policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention."

"This intensely felt sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken - it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes."

The transgendered person's disorder, said Dr. McHugh, is in the person's "assumption" that they are different than the physical reality of their body, their maleness or femaleness, as assigned by nature. It is a disorder similar to a "dangerously thin" person suffering anorexia who looks in the mirror and thinks they are "overweight," said McHugh.

This assumption, that one's gender is only in the mind regardless of anatomical reality, has led some transgendered people to push for social acceptance and affirmation of their own subjective "personal truth," said Dr. McHugh. As a result, some states - California, New Jersey, and Massachusetts - have passed laws barring psychiatrists, "even with parental permission, from striving to restore natural gender feelings to a transgender minor," he said.

The pro-transgender advocates do not want to know, said McHugh, that studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings "spontaneously lose those feelings" over time. Also, for those who had sexual reassignment surgery, most said they were "satisfied" with the operation "but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn't have the surgery."

The former Johns Hopkins chief of psychiatry also warned against enabling or encouraging certain subgroups of the transgendered, such as young people "susceptible to suggestion from 'everything is normal' sex education," and the schools' "diversity counselors" who, like "cult leaders," may "encourage these young people to distance themselves from their families and offer advice on rebutting arguments against having transgender surgery."

Dr. McHugh also reported that there are "misguided doctors" who, working with very young children who seem to imitate the opposite sex, will administer "puberty-delaying hormones to render later sex-change surgeries less onerous - even though the drugs stunt the children's growth and risk causing sterility."

Such action comes "close to child abuse," said Dr. McHugh, given that close to 80% of those kids will "abandon their confusion and grow naturally into adult life if untreated. 'Sex change' is biologically impossible," said McHugh. "People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women. Claiming that this is civil-rights matter and encouraging surgical intervention is in reality to collaborate with and promote a mental disorder."




http://www.catholic.org/news/national/story.php?id=56646

lefties sure to go berserk over all that...

and this too:

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The words of creation recorded in the Book of Genesis, "God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." (Gen 1:27) are being rejected and the consequences are evident in a culture which is spinning out of control.

The proponents of a feigned ability to change the nature of reality claim that changing gender is now another one of those multiplying new-found rights in a society which has nearly lost its mind. Following the pattern of their cultural revolutionary agenda, they have used verbal engineering to prepare the way for social and legal engineering, all intended to foist their ideology on us all.

...The Gender Identity Movement insists upon the recognition in the positive law of a such a so called new-found right to somehow choose one's gender. This is a biological, psychological and ontological impossibility. Yet, the advocates of this movement insist upon laws which accommodate, fund, and enforce this right. Those involved in the activist wing of the movement want to compel the rest of society to recognize their vision of a brave new world or face the Police Power of the State.



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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 12:16:18 PM   
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"What’s life like for the transgendered after sexual reassignment surgery?"

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McHugh supports his view – which goes against the views of the American Psychological Association and medical consensus – with a longterm study by researchers at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden. The majority of research on patients before and after SRS shows improved quality of life and psychological health right after surgery, but long-term evidence is more dubious.

The Karolinska Institute’s study followed a sample of 324 transsexual patients in Sweden, including male-to-females and female-to-males, after undergoing surgery between 1973 and 2003. The researchers found a higher suicide rate in transsexual individuals ten or more years after surgery than in the general Swedish population.

These results are troubling, and they warrant an explanation with follow-up research. Several questions remain unanswered. Would the suicide rate have been even higher in this group had they not undergone surgery? The study did not evaluate the mental health of patients pre-surgery or compare them with patients who did not opt for surgery. Unforeseen circumstances – such as subsequent divorce and the stigmatization of transgender people in society – are risk factors for suicide that were not controlled for in this study.

The Karolinska Institute researchers do not draw definitive conclusions from the results, but state, “Our findings suggest that SRS, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after SRS for this patient group.” McHugh goes in a different direction, rejecting both sex reassignment and gender dysphoria, which he confusedly compares to body dysmorphic disorder in claiming that it “does not correspond with physical reality.”


https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/10/01/whats-life-like-for-the-transgendered-after-sexual-reassignment-surgery/

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 12:22:20 PM   
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and a companion piece:

"Sex changes are not effective, say researchers"

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There is no conclusive evidence that sex change operations improve the lives of transsexuals, with many people remaining severely distressed and even suicidal after the operation, according to a medical review conducted exclusively for Guardian Weekend tomorrow.

The review of more than 100 international medical studies of post-operative transsexuals by the University of Birmingham's aggressive research intelligence facility (Arif) found no robust scientific evidence that gender reassignment surgery is clinically effective.

The Guardian asked Arif to conduct the review after speaking to several people who regret changing gender or believe that the medical care they received failed to prepare them for their new lives. They explain why they are unhappy with their sex change and how they cope with the consequences in the Weekend magazine tomorrow (July 31).

Chris Hyde, the director of Arif, said: "There is a huge uncertainty over whether changing someone's sex is a good or a bad thing. While no doubt great care is taken to ensure that appropriate patients undergo gender reassignment, there's still a large number of people who have the surgery but remain traumatised - often to the point of committing suicide."...


http://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 12:38:54 PM   
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I don't understand 20% of what you write.

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ORIGINAL: verbatimguy
I dont understand this transgendery thing.

Boy is boy which is xy.
Girl is girl which is yy.
<snip>
Sereously what is the problem here?

Females are XX, not 'yy.' (The male-determining "Y" chromosome is actually a truncated "X" where one leg is missing DNA material which only females inherit.)

Another typo to accompany the plethora of your numerous other misspellings? Approximately half of which should either automatically get auto-corrected while composing posts or else get flagged with a squiggly red line for you to manually correct.

This would appear to be the real mystery.

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 1:03:18 PM   
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quote:

https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/10/01/whats-life-like-for-the-transgendered-after-sexual-reassignment-surgery/

The final sentence from bounty's own link bears posting:

As a doctor, McHugh does no favors by refusing to relinquish an unscientific and outdated outlook on gender.

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 1:11:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Staleek

Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk0-fcSx0wM

Now do you understand?



I always watch those brothers and have seen almost all their youtube vids but not that one for some reason.
What he say is that their are "no nice shiny boxes" and if their are "their is an infanite number of them".
He say the sex is binery and the gender is infanite and orientation and behaver are different.

So what he advocate is infanite number of bathrooms?

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 1:16:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

I don't understand 20% of what you write.

quote:

ORIGINAL: verbatimguy
I dont understand this transgendery thing.

Boy is boy which is xy.
Girl is girl which is yy.
<snip>
Sereously what is the problem here?

Females are XX, not 'yy.' (The male-determining "Y" chromosome is actually a truncated "X" where one leg is missing DNA material which only females inherit.)

Another typo to accompany the plethora of your numerous other misspellings? Approximately half of which should either automatically get auto-corrected while composing posts or else get flagged with a squiggly red line for you to manually correct.

This would appear to be the real mystery.


This is a complacated subject which I have no experiance in.

The vlogbrothers video was good to me becasue it seperated four things infanitely on a continuem.
% sex
% gender
% oriantation
% behehavior

Vlogborthers said it was infianite but that doest explain the bathroom problim because cant havef infinite bathrooms nohow.

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 1:27:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

quote:

https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/10/01/whats-life-like-for-the-transgendered-after-sexual-reassignment-surgery/

The final sentence from bounty's own link bears posting:

As a doctor, McHugh does no favors by refusing to relinquish an unscientific and outdated outlook on gender.


Sex and gendar look simple to me and has work for long time.
So what is problems now?

I know that some boy feels like girl and may be wants to go to girl bath room.
I my self would love to go to girl bath room to ask them why they go togehter and what they do for so long.
But I control my self and do not go into girl bath room becasue I have penis (small but would be visible to girl if she look hard).

I may feel like a teacher but I dont go into teacher lounge if I am not teacher.
I may feel like armchari quarterback but I don't go into team locker room if I am not football player.
I may feel like giving out tickets but I dont stop traffic to yell at redlight runner if I am not police man.

Just because I feel like girl does not meen I get to go to girl bath room and that is how it should be.
So I do not undertand what teh problem is today.

Why cant people just follow same rule every one follow?

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 1:49:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

quote:

https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/10/01/whats-life-like-for-the-transgendered-after-sexual-reassignment-surgery/

The final sentence from bounty's own link bears posting:

As a doctor, McHugh does no favors by refusing to relinquish an unscientific and outdated outlook on gender.

A bit like bounties usual posting standard then

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 2:17:01 PM   
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I may be using an old term here but apart from this term do any of you ignorati who think its either male or female ONLY, did younever hear of hermaphrodites?
There are several gender and genetic states.
With the disparites in sexual organs not to mentiion hormonal diseases, there degrees and nothing in it is male OR female only.



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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 2:34:14 PM   
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dc,

I don't want to feed the trolls. And I'm a live and let live kinda guy. I don't have a problem with people "identifying" as whatever they wish.

However, when they insist the rest of the world join them, I confess I'm confused.

I don't mean to be glib, but if I identify as a wolf, people aren't going to treat me as a wolf trapped in a human body. They'll treat me as a man (which, face it, I am) who thinks he's a wolf. They could even be OK with that--but I'm still not a wolf. It, in fact, IS a body thing, even if I adopt (or, OK, am somehow born with) wolf instincts.

Now enter society. I can't behave like a wolf and except not to run into trouble in human society. Wolf society either, actually. That would certainly cause me a lot of mental and emotion distress. But probably not get me a legal pass.

Are those who identify as Gorean ACTUALLY Goreans, simply trapped in Earth bodies? Should women be required to call them "Master" because of this?

dc, so, honest question -- what am I missing here?

I trust you, and if anyone can help me understand this, it's you.

Thank you.


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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/2/2016 2:45:03 PM   
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Well, since we're on the topic, I have some questions. And I swear to God, these are genuine questions. Because no, I don't understand.

I am a woman. However, my long hair, the size of my breasts, whether I've had children or not, wearing makeup, working in a certain field, looking pretty....these things don't define me as a woman. Correct? I mean, if I were to lose my breasts through mastectomy, I would still be a woman. And if I were to cut my hair short and wear flannel shirts and hiking boots, I am still a woman. While I may not be able to answer to anyone's satisfaction what does define me a woman, I'm going to go on the assumption that we can all agree that any one of these things does not define me as a woman.

So, if I were a man but felt mismatched with that and felt like I more accurately identified as a woman, why is it that the outward changes I make in order to fit in as a woman in society are those very things that actually don't define someone as a woman?

Maybe I'm wrong, here. (Could very well be. I can count on one finger the number of transgender persons I know - that I'm aware of, anyway.) Do transgender persons try to assimilate into society by changing their outward appearance? If I'm correct in assuming so, then what does that get them? Our society already allows us to sleep with whomever we like, so he doesn't have to dress as a woman to be with a man. What other internal motivation would there be that doesn't rely on stereotypes of outward appearance and behavior?

And it often crosses my mind to wonder, if my assumptions are all correct: why is it okay to encourage using physical stereotypes as a way to express gender for our transgender folk, but it's frowned upon for those of us who aren't? An example of what I mean: It would be inappropriate for me to push my breasts up to an unnatural extent in order to, I don't know, go to a job interview. My breasts aren't who I am, and if I tried to make my appearance all about my breasts, then I would not be taken seriously. But if I'm a man who identifies as a woman, then somehow it's appropriate for me to...push my "breasts" up to an unnatural extent in order to go to a job interview. In that case, we'd be all "You go, girl!" but what's happening is that person is making their appearance all about their breasts - their physical femaleness* - but yet, they are taken seriously.

Just some thoughts....

*not quite sure that's a word. :)


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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/4/2016 8:12:01 AM   
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You can come to the Men's room for a spanking anytime.

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/4/2016 8:34:28 AM   
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A small slice of genetics and gender
http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/4/2016 8:38:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I may be using an old term here but apart from this term do any of you ignorati who think its either male or female ONLY, did younever hear of hermaphrodites?
There are several gender and genetic states.
With the disparites in sexual organs not to mentiion hormonal diseases, there degrees and nothing in it is male OR female only.




First of all they don't like the term "hermaphrodite" anymore. It is now "intersexed".

People are forgetting the basics. First of all, can a Woman rape a Man ? Why ? Because the Man has something protruding that can be stuck in a hole against the Woman's will. It simply does not work the other way.

So if you have a penis you go to the Men's room. Lavatories are places you do not expect cameras and there is just too much shit that can happen. Unless you want cameras in them. You want some fatass rentacop watch you take a piss and wipe your hooha ? Think about that.

If you actually go through the sex change operation fine, you no longer have that raping tool. Yup, just like a gun is a killing tool a penis is a raping tool. Try it without one sometime. Sex change operations are a fucking big PITA. They invert the penis and then you have to always keep it stuffed, and I mean to the point where it hurts. And you still can't have kids, and you are on drugs for the rest of your life. And you might need a boob job. People who do this must want it pretty bad.

Here on this forum, many years ago, I corresponded with someone who was born intersexed, and the doctors or whoever decided she was a male. They did an operation. Well she grew tits. I believe that after her case, and her making a stink about it, in Canada they are no longer allowed to touch anything. That should extend to circumcision but it probably doesn't. She said she has never had an orgasm. I guess her nerve endings were in the clitoris they removed.

What bathroom should she use ? She has a penis.

Bottom line, I say the Men's room.

Life is not fair, and trying to make it fair is wrecking the place. For one person we deprive millions of their rights ? I think it was wrong that they outlawed peanuts and peanut butter from a school because one student had a severe allergy to them. I am sorry, but as Spock said, "The needs of the many outweigh the need of the few, or the one".

But that seems to be a thing of the past. Know what ? Stop all this foreign aid and use the money to tutor the kid with the peanut allergy. Shit, they had home schooling via computer in Australia outback before most of us even had computers. The US is really a backward country. Despite having put a Man on the moon, it is like we are going back to the planet of the apes. Really disturbing.

The concept :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

An article :

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29948706/article.htm

The sika deer had plenty of food so they were not fighting over that. But glandular changes indicated a great deal of stress.

They eventually adjusted their reproduction rate to compensate. Think humans might learn to do that ? We got seven billion. Who really thinks we need more ?

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RE: understand transgendery thing - 6/4/2016 8:53:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

A small slice of genetics and gender
http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html


Fine, but that ain't our fault and no reason to change society.

Penis yes, Men's, penis no, Women's.

If it isn't supposed to matter to normal people, why is it supposed to matter to abnormal people ?

And I do not mean abnormal in a bad way here I just can't think of a better word right now.

But if it is not supposed to matter to us, why does it matter to them ?

In fact who even cares ? I am pretty sure there are no real laws about public restrooms, only that some municipalities require both.

One time I was at a concert and was drinking and had to piss really bad. I went, and the door was partly open and I saw "MENS" and went on in. There were no urinals. I took a piss and then walking out saw the whole door and that I had only seen part of the sign on it. It was embarrasing in a way because I consider that wrong, plus the fact there were a few girls by the door waiting, afraid to come in because I was in there. I apologized and went back to my seat.

I don't know what Women do in the Lady's room but int the Men's room other than go to the bathroom we generally smoked a joint. But not at a concert because you could do that anywhere. That was at bars, usually in the winter.

These abnormal people (and I do not mean THAT in a bad way) seem to have advocates who want them to disrespect our societal norms and practices. Well we have seen what progressives have done, they have wrecked the place. No further. You got penis you go to Men's room. If you don't like it have the motherfucker cut off.

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