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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Of course, they'll be busy. There will be another 134 attempts to repeal "Obamacare".

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Just what do you want them to do ?

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

@MrRodgers:

Were you this upset when the Democrat-led House and Senate weren't passing budgets, too?

And, no, that is not saying that what is going on now is okay, or acceptable. It's just as bad as when the Democrats weren't passing budgets.

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Are you as angry [as?] I am?

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Are you as angry [as?] I am?

Probably not. Nothing puts things in perspective quite like sorting out biopsy logistics.

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If you mean what you mean then you know what I mean.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

@MrRodgers:

Were you this upset when the Democrat-led House and Senate weren't passing budgets, too?

And, no, that is not saying that what is going on now is okay, or acceptable. It's just as bad as when the Democrats weren't passing budgets.

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what I do, is try to inform the young

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
@MrRodgers:
Were you this upset when the Democrat-led House and Senate weren't passing budgets, too?
And, no, that is not saying that what is going on now is okay, or acceptable. It's just as bad as when the Democrats weren't passing budgets.

Yes, I am angry but have more anger for the repubs because it is the repubs that much more consistently and a bit arrogantly spout off about and run for election on the notion that they are superior stewards of the nations govts. and at all levels.
(I mean for one parochial example, the repubs and their contributers are throwing money at a campaign to remove 4 justices from the Kansas Supreme court for ruling that they can't cut the Kansas's constitutionally required school spending in order to fix a budget totally out of wack due to their huge tax cuts. Rather than address a problem they themselves created, they go after office holders and judges no less)
It is the repubs that since Reagan that have demagogued on the issue as all of them being for small, limited govt. yet have never in almost 40 years...ever come through on that.
So here they are having both sides of congress, and for 6 years since 2010 and also another very partisan chance to stick it to Obama and democratic prospects in Nov. i.e., come through on their claims and they do what...punt.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
@MrRodgers:
Were you this upset when the Democrat-led House and Senate weren't passing budgets, too?
And, no, that is not saying that what is going on now is okay, or acceptable. It's just as bad as when the Democrats weren't passing budgets.

Then why the fuck did you bring it up?

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

If you mean what you mean then you know what I mean.

T^T

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
@MrRodgers:
Were you this upset when the Democrat-led House and Senate weren't passing budgets, too?
And, no, that is not saying that what is going on now is okay, or acceptable. It's just as bad as when the Democrats weren't passing budgets.

Yes, I am angry but have more anger for the repubs because it is the repubs that much more consistently and a bit arrogantly spout off about and run for election on the notion that they are superior stewards of the nations govts. and at all levels.
(I mean for one parochial example, the repubs and their contributers are throwing money at a campaign to remove 4 justices from the Kansas Supreme court for ruling that they can't cut the Kansas's constitutionally required school spending in order to fix a budget totally out of wack due to their huge tax cuts. Rather than address a problem they themselves created, they go after office holders and judges no less)
It is the repubs that since Reagan that have demagogued on the issue as all of them being for small, limited govt. yet have never in almost 40 years...ever come through on that.
So here they are having both sides of congress, and for 6 years since 2010 and also another very partisan chance to stick it to Obama and democratic prospects in Nov. i.e., come through on their claims and they do what...punt.

Punt? LMAO!! Maybe you need to bone up on some of your Congressional history, MrRodgers. The Democrats still ran the Senate in in the 113th Congress, meaning the GOP has been in control of both chambers for almost 1.5 years since 2010.

They did pass a budget bill in 2015 (granted, it was in December), so you're whining about what?

We completely agree that the Senate is playing a con game in waiting for the House to pass a bill first. Why hasn't the House passed one yet? I have no idea, but they certainly should have done so already.

The House did have a bill brought forth in March (HR125), but there haven't been any votes on it, or any Congressional action since it was introduced.

I think you're being a bit too partisan here. Clearly your ire is higher since this is the GOP, and they are 2 months late, but how much you want to bet we won't find any posts bitching about the Democrats not passing a bill for - what was it? - 7 years?

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I didn't realize how angry I was about what the House and Senate are doing…or, more accurately, not doing…until I heard someone who should know better say that Congress would be “returning to work” this week after being out of town for its Memorial Day recess.

Yes, representatives and senators will be coming back to Washington. But saying that Congress will be returning to work is so ridiculous that it should become the standard definition of an oxymoron , that is, of a self-contradictory phrase that can’t possibly be true.

Lowlites:

The Senate has done even less than the House. The Senate Budget Committee has used the phony excuse of wanting to see what the House does before deciding how to do a budget resolution of its own. As a result, the Senate so far hasn’t done anything this year on the budget and it’s increasingly obvious that it won’t.

(For the record, the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act requires that Congress adopt a budget resolution each year by April 15, that is, almost two months ago. It doesn’t require that the House go first or mandate that the Senate wait for the House to act.)

Indeed, given how few days are left before the start of the fiscal year (the House is only scheduled to be in session for 33 days between now and October 1; the Senate is only scheduled to be in session for 46), and the strong likelihood that there will be little-to-no legislative business conducted on some of these days, it’s very possible that Congress won’t act an any of the fiscal 2017 appropriations and that a CR covering all federal departments and agencies will be needed.

All these hearings accomplished was to prove the long-held common wisdom among federal budget wonks that Congress tries to do something about the budget process whenever it can’t or won’t do something about the budget itself.

New laws:

My anger increased further when I realized that at least some of the representatives and senators who attended these hearings actually believed that changing the process would make a difference. This was in spite of the fact that (as I told both committees) Congress would defy any new rules with the same impunity it was using to flout the old ones. HERE


Stan Collender I'm the founder of the blog Capital Gains and Games. I moved to DC after getting a graduate degree in public policy from the University of California, Berkeley and have been involved with the federal budget and congressional budget process throughout my entire career. In addition to being one of the few people who has served on the staffs of the House and Senate Budget Committees, I'm the author of The Guide to the Federal Budget, which was published annually from 1982 to 2000 and was one of the most-assigned texts on the topic.

I founded and edited Federal Budget Report, a newsletter that was published for almost two decades. I've also written weekly columns on the budget for NationalJournal.com and Roll Call. I'm currently an executive vice president at Qorvis MSLGROUP, where I work closely with financial services clients. I frequently speak on federal taxes and spending.
The author is a Forbes contributor. The opinions expressed are those of the writer.

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No, just doing the typical Yankish, but-your-side-did-it-first bullshit.